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Have you tried a Sauer 303?

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It's years since I owned my BAR. I still have one target in my reloading room when I outdid myself with my .270 BAR and shot a 5/8" three shot group at 300 yards one evening. Certainly not the norm but mine was a good shooter.
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Have you tried a Sauer 202?

Just read accounts, looked at pictures.

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I was working at a rifle range a while back and had a guy come in with a BAR with the BOSS gizmo on it. He was trying different factory loads to figure out which grouped best, and how to work the BOSS to tighten his groups. He'd found the best load of what he had with him, and then started playing with the BOSS. He got that thing down to consistent 3/4" groups off the sandbags by working with the BOSS system. The only thing I've never liked about those guns was the weight. The ones I saw out there shot better than the Remington Jammamatics, and ran smoother too.


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So far the 303 is the most consistently accurate semiauto "conventional" hunting rifle (meaning excluding AR's) I've tried. They usually group an inch or less (often much less) with factory ammo at 100 yards, unlike any of the other models you listed. And typical of German rifles, the trigger pull is very good.


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Don't you mean a 303?
I thought the 202 was a bolt action.

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Yep, you're right. Meant 303. Or maybe my fingers hit 2 instead of 3....


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Originally Posted by szihn
Don't you mean a 303?
I thought the 202 was a bolt action.

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Yeah, 303.

I knew what he was referring to when I answered the question.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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That's nice, bet the old rifle was a shooter, 10-roger on the muddy flaps too, we got roomsmile, I'll be looking for an easy accurate 2800-2850 with the 210 NPT's for now, will work up a serious all game load with the 250 NPT's this Spring.

Figured you for a bolt gun and/or classic type gun purist.

Not expecting to see you branching out with a semi-auto, although, IMO, the BAR is the best in class regarding build quality and accuracy.

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I've had a long appreciation for all things German, Belgian and Austrian, fine craftsmen, whether it be auto or weaponry, with the BAR's and A-5's, I can hear and feel the weapons working while firing, i think that's cool as hell.

I'll pick that rifle up this afternoon, mount the old set of sculptured Conetrol bases and gloss rings to see what kind of scope tube length I have to work with, this rifle appears to be untouched [no bubba] since it left the factory, i'll find a scope that will let me leave the rear fold over sight in place with the low scope height position the Conetrols will give.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
I've had a long appreciation for all things German, Belgian and Austrian, fine craftsmen, whether it be auto or weaponry,.

Yo Dodge Viper sure ain't German... wink

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by gunner500
I've had a long appreciation for all things German, Belgian and Austrian, fine craftsmen, whether it be auto or weaponry,.

Yo Dodge Viper sure ain't German... wink

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LOL, iirc, the Viper I bought for Wifey was owned by Diamler in '08 when built, but, that V-12 triple black convertible Benz sure is! smile


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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I've had a long appreciation for all things German, Belgian and Austrian, fine craftsmen, whether it be auto or weaponry,.

Yo Dodge Viper sure ain't German... wink

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LOL, iirc, the Viper I bought for Wifey was owned by Diamler in '08 when built, but, that V-12 triple black convertible Benz sure is! smile

So, you gonna use Wifey as an excuse for driving a Dodge... blush

Just messin with ya... laugh

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grin I know, and no, I bought the big Dodge for the farm, we better get back on topic before I get into trouble, the vipers a pinto, the mb's a vega, there, all better? ; ]

Back to the BAR, it's a hell of a testament and respect from me to John Moses Browning and FN's design talents, JMB passed a lot of good smarts on down to his son and grandson.


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I would like to hear from those who have used the Sauer 303.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Have you tried a Sauer 202?

Just read accounts, looked at pictures.

DF

Was trying to get a copy of your Rifle Mag. July 2011 article on the Sauer 303.

Found the issue on line, the download didn't include your piece.

Those rifles are pretty expensive. I don't see many sources and guess the black (synthetic) one would be the least expensive.

Fancy ones with high grade wood list in the $4K+ range.

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Well, well, I have the old '69 year model BAR Grade II 338WM perking right along nicely with 210gr Partitions at 2943 fps with RL-17, finally found a cherry gloss 2.5-8 Leupold to put in the sculptured Conetrol bases and rings, +2" at 100 zeros at 220 and only 6" down at 300, three shot groups averaging 1.22" for now, that's plenty good enough for me and 300 yard hunting with a semi-auto, and unfamiliar to me trigger feel. smile


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a good friend would pay dearly for the one his dad loaned to a friend. Both men got older. Then, after my friends dad passed we are pretty sure a younger relative of the loan recipient sent the BAR down the road to a pawn shop.......
just the kind of, "kid looses dads gun story" you want if you own one in 30-06 and want to move it!!!!!
That plated receiver and redone chequering really pop on the trade goods DF.


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D) 338WM BAR made in Belgium assembled in Portugal in 1990,
250 gr Nosler Gold Partition, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34"
2645 fps
2599
2645

E) 338WM BAR " made in Belgium assembled in Portugal in 1990
250 gr Nosler Gold Partition, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34"
2604 fps
2640
2629


F) 338WM BAR made in 1969 in Belgium,
250 gr Nosler Gold Partition, moly 69 gr H4350, 3.34"
2594 fps
2578
2588
2583
2578


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I'm about to pull my boots on and go chrono some 250 and 275gr Swift A Frames with H-1000, H-4831SC and H-4350 with a drop tube in my BAR 338, rains on the way this afternoon, I love finding a bag of new brass I forgot I had, gotta do something with it! grin


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Had a blast and found a baby 375 H&H mag load in the process, 275 gr Swift A Frames ran 2540 fps over 76 grs H-1000 through a drop tube, had no trouble at all seating the bullets in the crimp groove, took three to the bench for fun, they went a little under and inch and a half, what a hellbender load for all game to 300 yards.


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