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Is a percussion conversion make it use 209 shotgun primers?

No, either #11 or musket caps, obviously not for BH209. Same setup as the Western model, but with no sights on the gun it won't do for irons-only areas.

You might also want to look at the Patriot from Woodsmans Arms if you dont mind spending almost a grand. Very light and they have a McGowen stainless barrel with nitride.
https://woodmanarms.com/product/the-patriot/


If you can wait a little longer CVA is releasing the new Paramount bolt action based on the B-14 action and the HMR stock. Actual selling price might be much less. B-14 actions are based on the Rem 700 so some parts may swap. A bunch do on the regular B-14s.

It will have this stock and a similar action. Supposed to have a Triggertech trigger too.

If you need parts and can't find them, contact Ahlman's Gun Shop in Morristown, Mn. They do tons of warranty work for Remington, Winchester, and others. They have full machine shop capabilities on site, and a room full of parts guns that is very impressive. They've got it, they can get it, or they can make it.

Thanks Overkill. I dont need all the power if some of these guns. Heck, my home made 340 gr. cast bullet @ 1,500 FPS.would suit me fine.

Sounds like this one I have might fit the bill for a few of you guys:

Link to Traditions Vortek LDR in Classifieds

Make me an offer, you might be surprised. I dig it, but have a few other ML's that just fit particular niche's well for me.

I bought a T/C Impact about 5 years ago. It was cheap. The cheapest one the store had that wasn't a CVA. The first 2 shots at 50 yds, with 100grs of Pyrodex pellets hit 1" high and were almost touching with open sights. I cleaned the rifle and shot the next 3 shots at 75yds with the same powder charge. They made a perfect clover leaf, with 2 touching, that were dead on at 75.

I think I paid $159 for the gun.

After the season is over Wally World will blow out the MZs cheap. Ive seen Optima V2s for around $200 in SS. At that price you can try it out and sell it later if you are not happy. You wont lose much if any.

The best bargain im seeing atm is the Accura PR at Bud's for $420. Nitride and adjustable trigger. Thats a damn nice rifle for that price. Not quite a light weight but very reasonable.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog.../719016022/CVA+ACRA+PR+50+209+SS+ISM+BLK
Same rifle is going for over $500 at other places like muzzle-loaders.com
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/black-cva-accura-plains-rifle-nitride.html

They have the black Accura MR also for $410. Shorter barrel and lighter. Otherwise its the same as the PR.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog.../719016021/CVA+ACRA+MR+50+209+SS+ISM+BLK

Either one beats the snot out of anything Tradtions sells. You wont gain squat from going upto a 30" barrel. 50fps at most over the PR.

TZONE, I have a question. I have an Impact like I said. One thing about it is it is very sloppy . I can actually twist the barrel and the stock and there is at least 1/16" of play in it. It seems like a loose hinge pin in it. Is yours loose and wobbly?

can some body put the CVA contact number up

Go American all the way.

Knight Bighorn

I have an Impact, no wobble or slop in my rifle.