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McMillian GP HTG. Brux fluted No,4 finish at 26 inches. 1-8 twist. M700 BDL. Rifle Basic trigger. PTG bolt with handle. Finished in Duracoat desert digital camo. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/IMh3UYK.jpg) S&B 4-16x50 PMII... of course.. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/1BI5g1T.jpg) Seekens Rings. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/t66AT8p.jpg) Barreled action skidded forward .5 of an inch. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/J0UJ89A.jpg) Randy at Accurate Rifle Works did a bang up job. Factory 129g ABLRs drill 1.5 inch groups at 300 yards. Managed to pop a freezer doe last season. Looking forward to this year.. dave
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That’s a clean looking killer. I’m jealous.
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I think so.
I have not loaded for it yet.
Ammo is expensive but the way it shoots,you dont need much.
Eventually ill get a set of reloading dies and have at it.
But for now, Im just having fun.
Thinking about building a lighter version. ie carry version.
Will have to loose the Schmidt.
Its all good.
Have to be careful if you lay it down in the corn field......
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What’s the idea behind skidding the action forward 0.5”?
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What’s the idea behind skidding the action forward 0.5”? I makes for ALOT more room on the grip. If you have large hands like me.... Its just more better. dave
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You won't have to tweak your turrets till past 400 with that outfit. I think Nosler hit the right capacity for a max 6.5 with the powders available. The 6.5 STW and Weatherby may be a tad much just enough to make them more temperamental or so I have heard. But then people said this about the 264 WM which is considered a solid citizen now.
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Nice rifle, I am debating between a 26 and a 28
How does it shoot with the longer bullets, like the 140's?
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Not nearly as nice or as fancy, but almost as functional. Old 700 BDL 7RM with #2 Shilen, 510 Timney. Mine didn't like the 129 LRAB as well as the 127 LRX, 120 E-Tips/TTSX's. It'll shoot a little over 2" at 400 with those loads. I found that U.S 869 was the best performing powder. My current load is 91 gr. with the 127 LRX. You can pick up WC 872 from Jeff Bartlett, around $50 per 8#'s. It's a Vulcan cannon pull down surplus powder. And IME, it's an exact sub for 869. Same loads, same velocity, same accuracy. Just cheaper. I have 8# jugs of each, use both. The Z3 Swaro with Sharpie yardage marks on the aluminum discs. Acetone erases them. Cheaper than a dedicated turret. So, this is a low budget 26 Nosler. BTW, the sticky factory recoil pad was replaced at no cost by Remington. It's made by Limbsaver. Another thing I did was to shave the bottom of the bolt knob. It bumped my trigger finger on the bench. The 26 Nosler doesn't kick that much, just enough to be a nuisance when the bolt knob hits the trigger finger. Fixed that. DF ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/tywnmWX.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/exSfMsX.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/gDfG5yz.jpg)
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If 1/2 MOA is to be maintained you'll probably be re-barreling it about every 400-450 rounds.
For hunting big game 1/2 MOA is actually not needed, but I would not want it to shoot an average of over 1.5 MOA before I installed a new barrel.
Assuming you have a 1/2 MOA rifle to start with, I would make a guess that will mean a new barrel for hunting about every 1000 rounds.
Some steels do better then others and the more powder you burn and the higher you run your pressure, the shorter the life will be. Lots of cooling time between shots help a bunch too.
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If 1/2 MOA is to be maintained you'll probably be re-barreling it about every 400-450 rounds.
For hunting big game 1/2 MOA is actually not needed, but I would not want it to shoot an average of over 1.5 MOA before I installed a new barrel.
Assuming you have a 1/2 MOA rifle to start with, I would make a guess that will mean a new barrel for hunting about every 1000 rounds.
Some steels do better then others and the more powder you burn and the higher you run your pressure, the shorter the life will be. Lots of cooling time between shots help a bunch too. My Nos is sub MOA at 500 rounds. Bore not that bad thru Hawkeye. Early throat erosion. I worked it over with JB, recoated with DBC. I think it’ll go a thousand. We’ll see. DF
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I'd be interested in your progress. Please keep me informed. 
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I picked up the gun for $400. It had been in a fire, mostly water and steam damage. Barrel and trigger were toast. If they don’t get hot enough to damage the wood, the metal is OK. I glassed it, had the Shilen fitted, pulled the mag block for a full 3.6” mag. Added a RUM box and follower, got a Timney on EBay for $105 delivered. Already had the Z3, mounted it and marked the yardages on the turret.
Monos at those speeds are accurate and destructive. They mess up more meat than one may think, kill with authority.
Low budget, but a lot of gun for the buck.
BTW, even though I have full mag 3.6” capacity, I’ve found my best groups at around factory 3.4” COAL. I guess that gives it a bit of free bore and monos do like to jump.
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100gr Scenars sizzling along at 4K are fun in a 26.
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You won't have to tweak your turrets till past 400 with that outfit. I think Nosler hit the right capacity for a max 6.5 with the powders available. The 6.5 STW and Weatherby may be a tad much just enough to make them more temperamental or so I have heard. But then people said this about the 264 WM which is considered a solid citizen now. I have way more scope on the 26 than what I need. The reticle is a P3 so I have built in dots if I ever need them. Last season was my first season to run any 6.5 for deer. It also was about the first time in 30 some years, I havent run a handload... I had the 26 built instead of a 28 or a 30 as I was looking to keep the recoil to a min. I watched the smith shooting the 28 and the 30 and I think ill pass. dave
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Dirtfarmer,
I like it.
When I start loading I was thinking the 127 LRX.
I prefer monos for the highspeed stuff anyway.
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I like 140 Ballistic tips and 869 in mine. I don’t think the recoil is anymore than a 7 Rem mag. I would go with Accubonds if I hunted anything heavier than pigs and Texas Whitetail. I think I’m loading a grain under max.
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I like 140 Ballistic tips and 869 in mine. I don’t think the recoil is anymore than a 7 Rem mag. I would go with Accubonds if I hunted anything heavier than pigs and Texas Whitetail. I think I’m loading a grain under max. [quote=hanco] My hunting bud likes 140 NABs in his 26 Nos. Not running as fast as the mentioned monos, but tissue damage about the same. Very accurate with 869. DF
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100gr Scenars sizzling along at 4K are fun in a 26. I’d say not a deer load based on my one time experience with 90 gr Scenar out of a 240 Wby. Nasty clean up at skinning shed. Chest cavity was soup. Blew up diaphragm. Even has some corn in the soup. Once was enough. And that was around 3,500, not 4K fps, It would be fun blowing up stuff. DF
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It would be fun blowing up stuff.
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Very accurate with 869.
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Isnt 869 a ball powder? dave
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Very accurate with 869.
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Isnt 869 a ball powder? dave Yep. Use mag primers. DF
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I use 120 Barnes in my Creedmoor’s and 6.5-06’s. I need to try them in the 264’s and the 26 Nosler. They hammer deer, pigs and damned Aoudads at Creed speeds.
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They’ll bust’em up worse at 264 and 26 speeds.
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120 TTSX out of the 26 at 3,450 fps. I can shoot them faster, but this load is half MOA, so I stuck with it. You don't generally think of monos being this destructive. Don't think my Creed shooting that bullet will mess up a hog this bad. DF ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/95j3gP6.jpg)
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Dang, never seen a mono do that, cant recollect if I've shot em that fast either, the 750 grainer loafing along at 2070 fps from the 577 was plum gentlemanly to the armadillo.
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Itching to try Ramshot LRT. I've messed with the other suspects with VV570 performing best other than poor SD.
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Itching to try Ramshot LRT. I've messed with the other suspects with VV570 performing best other than poor SD. I tried n570. It's a very coarse stick powder and it stacks in my Uniflow. I had to drop a charge without drop tube in a scale pan and weigh. It reportedly is a high energy powder, and although faster than 869 or 872, I don't find it to be as accurate. QL shows it as the velocity champ in a number of big rounds. I'm glad I didn't buy much, as it's pretty expensive. These high energy powders are said to be harder on barrels. Well, the 26 Nos needs a break, doesn't need a powder that eats away the throats any faster. Let us know how LRT works. DF
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Dang, never seen a mono do that, cant recollect if I've shot em that fast either, the 750 grainer loafing along at 2070 fps from the 577 was plum gentlemanly to the armadillo. Speed is very important. I try to keep velocities within the design window of any bullet used on game. The monos are said to not have a velocity ceiling, but as I've posted before, very low S.D. monos at hyper velocity don't always perform as well as one would wish. In this case, it's velocity that determines the amount of energy expended on a critter. Now, the 120 TTSX at Creed speed will kill; at 26 Nos speed it kills with a lot more destruction. I think the main excuse for such velocity is long range. It's hard to justify at the usual WT ranges of around 200 yds, more or less. But, it is fun. And the poster with 100 gr. Scenar at 4K. Well, that's extreme. I've learned better than shooting WT's with such a combo. 4K exceeds the design window of that bullet by a bunch, like the 90 gr. Scenar out of my.240 mentioned earlier. Loony stuff, for sure. But what else would be be ruminating over...  DF
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I bet that pig didn’t go far.
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I bet that pig didn’t go far. Just the distance from standing to nose in the dirt.... Less than a foot... DF
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I killed a 200 lb Aoudad last year with the 26. The 140 Ballistic tip knocked his dinky in the dirt too. Not much recoil with mine. It was a 7 mag Sendero that I wasn’t using. It has a Rock Creek Barrel. ![[Linked Image]](http://a67.tinypic.com/2wnbedg.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://a64.tinypic.com/1zwx7l.jpg)
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Dang, never seen a mono do that, cant recollect if I've shot em that fast either, the 750 grainer loafing along at 2070 fps from the 577 was plum gentlemanly to the armadillo. Speed is very important. I try to keep velocities within the design window of any bullet used on game. The monos are said to not have a velocity ceiling, but as I've posted before, very low S.D. monos at hyper velocity don't always perform as well as one would wish. In this case, it's velocity that determines the amount of energy expended on a critter. Now, the 120 TTSX at Creed speed will kill; at 26 Nos speed it kills with a lot more destruction. I think the main excuse for such velocity is long range. It's hard to justify at the usual WT ranges of around 200 yds, more or less. But, it is fun. And the poster with 100 gr. Scenar at 4K. Well, that's extreme. I've learned better than shooting WT's with such a combo. 4K exceeds the design window of that bullet by a bunch, like the 90 gr. Scenar out of my.240 mentioned earlier. Loony stuff, for sure. But what else would be be ruminating over... DF Agreed, if you're going to run monos at warp 100 speeds they need to be at least in the mid-weight for caliber, imho.
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Dang, never seen a mono do that, cant recollect if I've shot em that fast either, the 750 grainer loafing along at 2070 fps from the 577 was plum gentlemanly to the armadillo. Speed is very important. I try to keep velocities within the design window of any bullet used on game. The monos are said to not have a velocity ceiling, but as I've posted before, very low S.D. monos at hyper velocity don't always perform as well as one would wish. In this case, it's velocity that determines the amount of energy expended on a critter. Now, the 120 TTSX at Creed speed will kill; at 26 Nos speed it kills with a lot more destruction. I think the main excuse for such velocity is long range. It's hard to justify at the usual WT ranges of around 200 yds, more or less. But, it is fun. And the poster with 100 gr. Scenar at 4K. Well, that's extreme. I've learned better than shooting WT's with such a combo. 4K exceeds the design window of that bullet by a bunch, like the 90 gr. Scenar out of my.240 mentioned earlier. Loony stuff, for sure. But what else would be be ruminating over... DF Agreed, if you're going to run monos at warp 100 speeds they need to be at least in the mid-weight for caliber, imho. I'm thinking at least an S.D. of .2 or more, preferably more. The one I had issues with had an S.D. below .2. DF
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Got out to try it out. Very windy.So windy in fact it blew a full box of ammo off the bench onto to ground. Snowing.was kinda nice as I didnt have any company at the range and had the place to myself.. Bought 2 new boxes of Nosler factory ammo. Have not touched the scope since last season. Here it is. Cold and clean at 300 yards. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/bDGWGF1.jpg) 2 more shots at 100 yards. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/2sMl8Uq.jpg) I used this rifle last year and got a freezer doe. First time I havent run handloads since 81 or 82. Im thinking this factory ammo is a might better than it used to be. Talk about plug and play accuracy. A big thank you to Randy at Accurate Riflle Works for a job well done.. I told bigstick I was running factory ammo. he did not approve.... dave
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I'd be interested in your progress. Please keep me informed. Today was the last day of Pa deer season. Freezer doe at 300 yards. Straight up high lung shot. She did a 45 yard death run and piled up. Nice sized exit.1.5 or so inches. Would not expect a 129g ABLR to nuke and this one did not. Poured the lungs out. dave
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Lots to like with that setup, Dave!
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A year later... Two new boxes of factory ammo Cold and clean at 100 yards. Didnt touch a thing from last year. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/tmvCqSy.jpg) Then at 200 yards. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/cLVZwhX.jpg) And finished up at 300 yards.... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/XNH397q.jpg) Plug and play. Im liken it alot dave
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Last season factory ammo. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/vVYagl5.jpg) Ive shot better. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/7DohR7u.jpg) Still plug and play out of a box. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/lqrCdRz.jpg) I figure roughly Ive got about 50 rounds on it. I scoped it before season. You can tell its been shot but thats about it. No real wear to speak of. Still liken it alot. dave
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Might as well be a 30-30  I’ve always meant to ask, how’s the 129 ABLR on bucks Dave? Seems like it should leave a pretty good wave of destruction at those speeds.
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It's seems bloodie to me.. shot piles of deer 🦌 with ballistic tip . Got exits . Got blood. Got blood trails when they did run.
This set seems like ALOT more blood . Blood on the ground. Blood on the deer. Don't seem to matter where you hit them either. Must be the high velocity...
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It's seems bloodie to me.. shot piles of deer 🦌 with ballistic tip . Got exits . Got blood. Got blood trails when they did run.
This set seems like ALOT more blood . Blood on the ground. Blood on the deer. Don't seem to matter where you hit them either. Must be the high velocity...
Dave Hmmmmm, makes sense to me.
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First time for Sunday hunting in Pa. Sunny day kinda warm. No activity. No shooting anywhere close or off in the distance.. Very few trucks out and about. Quiet. About 9 in the morning. Just about to nod off and out pops two bucks about 250 yards away. Movin fast.. Real fast, running toward me.. Comming in at me on a diagonal. WMU 1B in Pa, is four up,on one side, with out the browtine to be a legal buck.. These guys running at me are both legal. moven... tic.tic.tic. Im checken both going from one to the other with the Schmidt. Ones just alittle bigger. These guys must think im there dad or something as they keep comming. Now there in my lap... I better get this done. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ABarMmY.jpg) . And. Wish I had taken some more and better pics. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/SN4cF9M.jpg) . I guess the buck fever must have got me as I hit him high and back. But he collapsed at the shot. Didnt even twitch. DRT. Lost some back strap but im ok with it. The Does i got with spongebob a week later tasted better.. Hes actually got some extra junk on him that would have made him a 12 pointer. But had been doing some fighting. Got some broken tines. Gives him character. dave.
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First time for Sunday hunting in Pa. Sunny day kinda warm. No activity. No shooting anywhere close or off in the distance.. Very few trucks out and about. Quiet. About 9 in the morning. Just about to nod off and out pops two bucks about 250 yards away. Movin fast.. Real fast, running toward me.. Comming in at me on a diagonal. WMU 1B in Pa, is four up,on one side, with out the browtine to be a legal buck.. These guys running at me are both legal. moven... tic.tic.tic. Im checken both going from one to the other with the Schmidt. Ones just alittle bigger. These guys must think im there dad or something as they keep comming. Now there in my lap... I better get this done. . And. Wish I had taken some more and better pics. . I guess the buck fever must have got me as I hit him high and back. But he collapsed at the shot. Didnt even twitch. DRT. Lost some back strap but im ok with it. The Does i got with spongebob a week later tasted better.. Hes actually got some extra junk on him that would have made him a 12 pointer. But had been doing some fighting. Got some broken tines. Gives him character. dave. Great pictures. Dave you have to have 4 points on the main beam not including the brow? If that’s the case that’s pretty much a no brainer for the Schmidt’s and other alpha glass. Holy smokes. I’d be shiiting pine cones on them bucks.
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It's actually 3 up not counting the brow. So a G2 a g3 and main beam is legal.
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It's actually 3 up not counting the brow. So a G2 a g3 and main beam is legal. Yes I stand corrected.. Dave
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I like the schmidt's for the last 10 minutes.
You just dont have alot of time.
This all happened really fast
I didn't have time to admire them.
Was pretty cool that there was two of them.
Dave
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