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Last time sherriff came knocking at my door at 3 a m was to tell me my fence had been knocked down and daughter’s horses were out on the county road.
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Why would they NOT wait until the guy leaves his house? At most he might have a side arm or two at that point. MUCH safer out in the open. Kind of like Waco? Doesn't seem a lot like Waco at all.
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Doesn't seem a lot like Waco at all. Because there wasn't a fire, or because that hideous dyke ain't around no mo?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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Waco was an entire compound and what amounted to a militia and there were other reasons than simply gun confiscation involved. This is one guy.
There are always hideous dykes around.
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Whatdaya think would happen if you didn't answer the door?
If they are there to confiscate your guns, does that mean that they have a search warrant? (I don't know if they do or don't)
But if they have a search warrant for a "dangerous" person, who does not answer the door, do they then call in the Military Arm of the Local Federales (also known fondly as SWAT) & breach your door, tear up your house & in the end, shoot your dog & take the guns.
This whole scenario could get out of hand real quick like, I'm thinkin'.
MM In the first place, they're deluded. I don't believe that they wouldn't answer the door. You get a knock at the door in the middle of the night, you never know whether it's your neighbor needing help, the victim of some wreck or something else or even an evil-doer just seeing if you're home. Most gunny's I know are going to answer the door. If you don't your old lady will bug the [bleep] out of you or go do it herself. Maybe somebody hit your dog on the highway and it needs attention. In the second place, if cops think they are legally able to do this, warrant or no, a door isn't stopping them from taking your guns. They have the numbers and local and state legal system on their side to do what they want. The thing about cops doing this against their will is utter bullshit. Nobody forces you to be a cop. Believe what you want, but I signed up to shoot bank robbers and date strippers, not deal with nuts that now live every other door all day.
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and what amounted to a militia Gosh that sounds scary. Did you pee ur self?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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The thing about cops doing this against their will is utter bullshit.
I think that's more true than not. And way too many of them like it, like the power trip & believe that far too many of the everyday citizens are bad guys & not to be trusted in anything, not that there are not a lot of legitimate bads guys as we all know there are. It's a bad situation that is very likely to get worse in some states. MM
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Waco was an entire compound and what amounted to a militia and there were other reasons than simply gun confiscation involved. This is one guy.
There are always hideous dykes around. By chance have you ever read the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
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Waco was an entire compound and what amounted to a militia and there were other reasons than simply gun confiscation involved. This is one guy.
There are always hideous dykes around. By chance have you ever read the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution? His side is a militia of sorts - they're fighting for socialism and doing pretty damn good job .
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
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Waco was an entire compound and what amounted to a militia and there were other reasons than simply gun confiscation involved. This is one guy.
There are always hideous dykes around. By chance have you ever read the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution? His side is a militia of sorts - they're fighting for socialism and doing pretty damn good job . They are a persistent lot.
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Koresh was also wanted for questioning regarding serial child abuse and sexual assault.
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Koresh was also wanted for questioning regarding serial child abuse and sexual assault. Koresh was under siege by the Feds. The allegedly nutso Maryland guy was taken down by county mounties or at least state people, not feds. It was about as different as it can be other than both had guns.
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I assure you that the cops don't appreciate this crap. If the guy is crazy, HE'S what needs to be taken away, not his guns. What iF he's not crazy , but a problematic alcoholic( as reported in some sources)..?....Should he be locked away like a crazy but his guns go free...???... How do you properly deal with substance abuse gun owners? [ They had no good reason to wake him up and put him under stress, it's almost a guarantee of a screw up by one side or the other.
Putting aside the lack of constitutionality, the method will get folks dead. There are different kinds of confiscation orders. One can receive official notification in the mail to bring them in by a certain date to a specific location. or/ Emergency category confiscation Order means LEO turn up at your door step instead.
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I assure you that the cops don't appreciate this crap. If the guy is crazy, HE'S what needs to be taken away, not his guns. What iF he's not crazy , but a problematic alcoholic?....Should he be locked away like a crazy but his guns go free...???... How do you properly deal with substance abuse gun owners? The second amendment don't say shyt about alcohol or alcoholics. If he's a free citizen of the United States he has a RIGHT to be armed, like it or not. If being drunk in your own home was legitimate reason to take that RIGHT from someone, half the people on this board would be disarmed.
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I assure you that the cops don't appreciate this crap. If the guy is crazy, HE'S what needs to be taken away, not his guns. What iF he's not crazy , but a problematic alcoholic?....Should he be locked away like a crazy but his guns go free...???... How do you properly deal with substance abuse gun owners? The second amendment don't say shyt about alcohol or alcoholics. If he's a free citizen of the United States he has a RIGHT to be armed, like it or not. If being drunk in your own home was legitimate reason to take that RIGHT from someone, half the people on this board would be disarmed. Yup, pretty much have to agree with that, with exception to convicted felons.
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If being drunk in your own home was legitimate reason to take that RIGHT from someone, half the people on this board would be disarmed.
lol,...I was pretty much thinking the same thing. The most popular forum would be "Slingshots".
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Koresh was also wanted for questioning regarding serial child abuse and sexual assault. No... he wasn’t. That was b s that Reno came up with. You need to quit carrying water for the crooked feds..... they ain’t gonna hire you.
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If being drunk in your own home was legitimate reason to take that RIGHT from someone, half the people on this board would be disarmed.
What makes you think he was only intoxicated while at home? he could have been known to be out and about while heavily intoxicated and carrying...alcohol is not included under the federal 'controlled substance' statute regarding firearm ownership , so its left to the individual states to legislate and deal with.
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We, American citizens, are innocent until proven guilty of a crime - beyond a reasonable doubt - by due process of law. Preventive prosecution and confiscation of property are not American principles.
Every man must decide for himself what cost he is willing to pay, but violation of our inalienable rights must be resisted, if our Foundational principles are to be preserved. History proves that those peoples who didn't, became slaves to their oppressive governments.
The 2A is the first, essential freedom. Without it, the rest of the Bill of Rights exists at the discretion of despotic bureaucrats and power hungry politicians. I believe Heston had it right, "From my cold, dead hand."
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty of give me death! P. Henry
Deus vult!
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Just got done watching The Patriot. These Maryland staties remind me of the Redcoats.
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