Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Custom Rifles & Wildcats No cut stainless barrel under #3, huh?

The #2 I have was a more recent production after the new ownership. I don’t see anything smaller than #3 on their ready to ship list. But they don’t normally have many ready to ship. I did not send a barrel in to duplicate. They should have all the factory contour specs already.

I have a few spare Rock std sporter blanks in different calibers that I’ve had for awhile.

Why not?

Well, for one reason....you're not considering some really good barrel mfgs. that make exactly what you're looking for. -Al

Well, be specific then,
What am I missing?

You must have a reason(s) for insisting on a cut rifled barrel. List them and their attributes relative to a buttoned barrel and we'll go from there.

Accuracy? Life? Fouling? Something else I'm missing for a hunting rig?

Thanks! -Al

People always use competition as the measuring stick for button vs cut. A good barrel is a good barrel I assure you there is one very good shooter who switched to a button barrel about a year ago. Theres more button barrels being used than you know.

Well, I don't know, How are factory barrels made? button or no?
I do know I currently have not a single cut barrel, Just would simply like to test the waters...
Seems like my wishes of a stainless, cut, #2 or factory contour is an option, so why not?
First thoughts were to drive to Bartlein, drop off an action, return in months to pick up. Seemed easy at the time.
Given the option of stainless over CM, yes, SS wins.

And lets reread my original post. never "insisted"It had be stainless, rather,
Was wondering how my Stainless barreled Winchester M70 '06 was available to the public,
but aftermarket barrel makes said no way.......

What I would like?
An accurate barrel that requires the least maintenance, A contour that closely resembles what I have now, love the balance as is, not really interested in any 'new' surprises,
A barrel that puts the first shot POA along with the next several consecutive shots, this one does not.
Least amount of grief, research, phone calls and shipping. Depending on what choices we make, Door to door could be 6 months to possibly a year

Cost, Don't even care to think what I've spent on this rifle, at this point just want it done to the best ability of all/any who work on it.

You know how many tournament fishermen switched from Mercury to Evinrude?
They didn't catch any more or any less fish....

You know many World class Archers switched from Hoyt to Matthews or vice versa?

It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian.......

But if I'm investing another 1K into a rifle, can't I have it my way?

Sleep just seems to come easier that way.

It's your money spend it how you want, doesn't matter to me.

Okay....

Here's my 250 Ackley with a Hart #2 (buttoned):



Two of my 5 shot groups @ 100 with the BIB 88's.



The Sierra 87's, 100's, and Nosler 85's and 100's never go over 1/2" for 5 shots or over 3/8" for three.

I don't have anywhere near the experience with barrels as some who have commented. That said I have them and have had great pleasing results from Rock Krieger Bart Lilja and Pac Nor. I can't tell any difference between button and cut. One of the Bartliens seems to clean the best(even compared to other cut barrels from same and other makers) and the easiest no fuss just wildly accurate barrel has been a Lilja.


If I wanted a stainless barrel smaller than a Bart 2b I wouldn't think twice about calling Lilja.

Guys, I've known Al for several years. He is very knowledgeable and a Good guy. Trust his knowledge.

Your correct Kaleb the majority cant shoot the difference between good cut or button including me. People read stuff on the internet and swallow hook line and sinker. BR shooters dont tell the whole story of what equipment there using. The vast majority of us can just buy a barrel from a reputable company and be just fine. They ALL make a dud once in awhile.
I would be more concerned about who was chambering it than the barrel.

You just made my decision process so much not any easier........

Thanks?

Ok, is Al the Gunsmith I'm actually looking for?
Butch you shoot competition I believe,
You about to tell me some epiphany?

It's cold windy and rainy here, 3 to 6 on the way.....
I have nothing else to do today but chat....

Ya, I'm that bored.

No doubt.

Kenneth, I don't know if Al does work for the public. If I didn't do my own I sure wouldn't worry about Al doing it for me. I'm using a Lederer cut rifle barrel on my BR rifle at this time in my PPC. I'm using a Rock Creek cut rifle in my 30BR varmint for score shooting. Now, James Lederer and Paul Volsted were working at Rock at that time. They left a few years ago. I mostly use Shilen and Douglas for my hunting rifles. My philosophy for a hunting rifle is a true less than a MOA shooter, cold, hot, clean, dirty, or whatever the rifle or weather condition happens to be. I'm not a range whore. I don't burn up barrels and components trying for the last .050" of accuracy. I'm not saying that living at the range is wrong, it just ain't my deal.
I'm just kinda glancing at a couple useless FB games and am bored.

I've had 4-5 Harts that shot really good,1 really good Rock Creek I have an older Broughton that is a laser, but my most consistent and easiest to work up loads for have been My Bartliens, these days Bartlien makes my decision process easy!

Rock #2 in 257, #2 in 6.5, #3 in 7mm and #3 in 338. all of them shoot better than me.

Wild question here but, What manufacturing process do the Major Gun company's use to make barrels,

button or other?

If anyone has talked to Rock lately, what was the estimated turnaround time?

Bartlien is still around 6 months.