Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Custom Rifles & Wildcats No cut stainless barrel under #3, huh?

Most mfg. use hammer forged process to do their barrels.

Thanks for the nice words, Butch. Your own products and service speak volumes, as well.

My hunting rifles use Hart, Shilen, Lilja, Rock and Krieger. All have performed exceptionally well.

On my BR rigs, I drifted to the cut rifled barrels for the repeatable amount of a slight gain twist at the last two inches before the muzzle....the cut rifled process giving more control to that than the button process. -Al

What are the advantages to this gain in twist the last 2 inches before the muzzle?

Which barrel manufactures are doing this?

Did you call Rock yet?

Kenneth, Bartlein does gain twist. Frank Green, Bartlein, did and 8 groove, LH twist, gaintwist RF barrel for me.

Timely Question.
5 phone calls today, one person actually picked up, Brux. Also Brux did reply to last weeks email......
Here is the response in the email....
"The smallest we can do is # 3 medium sporter
Thank You,
Ken"

So much for Brux, has mentioned I also called them today, Talked to whoever and asked why they won't do a sporter weight stainless......"safety reasons"
Ok, scratch brux at this point.... He did ask what caliber, I replied .308 So maybe .277 is cool. .284 must be the red haired step child. .308 get the fug out welfare case....

Rock also reply by email.....
"Ken, we have a factory winchester profile on our CNC, I'm not sure if it
matches your barrel though as they have a few, we can copy yours for a
$50 fee, otherwise the smallest I'd recommend for a 300WSM would be a #3
sporter, which is .625"@24". We currently are running around 5 months
lead time."

Noteworthy, he did not say NO! Just recommended going heavier than I want to.....
We'll see what tomorrows email reply is.......

Also Called Hart, seems like he might be able to do it all, no answer, and I generally don't leave voice mails either, so tomorrow we be back at it.

Give Pac-Nor a call

Pac-Nor makes excellent barrels. Their .30 cal. stainless is available in a #2 contour. -Al

How you guys feel about Pac-nor doing barrel and chambering? They should be pretty good at it by now..........

Hart and Shilen are your one stop shops. Don't think pacnor does bedding, but I wouldn't hesitate to use their barrels or smith services.

If I were you, I'd order a Rock, Brux or Mullerworks in your Contour if they will dupe it, or their closest Contour to yours, then send it off to any good smith (I can suggest a bunch if you go that route) and have them adjust your barrel inlet, bedding, perfect the feeding, and Cerakote if desired. This is really very simple, don't over complicate things.

Not Shilen.

http://www.shilen.com/pricesServices.html

Today's update, 'cause I just know you all just filled with anticipation regarding my 'uge dilemma.......

Rock will duplicate my contour, but they want the barrel, (understandable), which means I need a smith to unthread before shipping, totally do-able......

Or, Also talked to Hart today, the Lady on the phone knew her stuff, I was impressed with that to be honest,

Anyway, I can send the rifle to Hart, 7 to 9 months later I should have my rifle back, all steps done by Hart......

Trust me, I could still complicate the issue, somehow?

But why would I........

Hart...

Does rock have a 30 cal Blank they can turn for you? They keep a good bit of blanks ready to contour from my experience with them. If so:


Shoot redneck here on the fire a PM and tell him what you want to do. Have him send your factory tube to rock, have a barrel in 2-3 weeks from rock if the Blank is in stock and only needs contouring and finishing, then whatever time redneck needs. He just chambered me a barrel, and Bedded it in record time.

I was told 5 months,,,, That's all the info I was given.....

Is it that Kreiger will not do stainless barrels with "cut rifling" less than #3 or do they not do any barrels in stainless less than #3? Their sister company, Criteron, produces very lightweight barrels for Weatherby Ultra Lightweights and those barrels are also fluted, but the are not cut rifled.

I haven't talked to Krieger....Not sure what their status is....On their website, stainless .308 starts with #5 (hell no)
CM anything goes including #2.......

Bartlein and Brux are similar, Stainless barrels need significantly more meat,,,CM, again anything goes.

Rock lists several barrels available in inventory on their facebook page.


Inventory on hand, these barrels are ready to be shipped or can be ready to ship the same day.
6mm:
#3 Sporter 9T-$280
1.25 for 2.5" taper to .825"@24", 25" blank 13.6T-$260ea

6.5mm:
AR15 Heavy(.975-.936-.905) Rifle length 8T 26" blank-$225

7mm:
#6 Sporter Fluted for 28" FL, 34" blank 8T-$405

308:
AR10 threaded for extension 11.27T 25"-$290
AR10 .750 gas block 11.27 25"-$265
#4.5 Sporter 12T Fluted for 15.5"Finish 20"blank-$355
#6 Sporter 10T-$280
AMU/MTU 8T 21"-$245
Light Palma 10T 28"-$285
#5 Sporter 1.250" Breech 10T Flute 28" Finish-$410
AMU/MTU 9T 31"-$325

338:
M24/M40 9.4T Left Hand 28"-$285
Heavy Palma(+) 9.5T 26.75"-$280
3-1.300 Straight CrMov 9.4T 28" blank-$280ea

These barrels are all match grade hand lapped cut rifled barrels. 27" length unless noted otherwise.
If you would like one of these or have any other questions please call the shop, 608-862-2357.
Thank You,
From the Team at Rock Creek Barrels.

Had a good chat with Bartlein, They simply will not make any SS barrel less than 2b dimensions.... This gentleman says it is all about liability, in the fact that he has personally seen SS barrel(s) that have been compromised in the colder weather,

I offered drinks, dinner and a reach-around,,,,,,,,#2 SS from Bartlein ain't happening.

Pac nor is 12 weeks out,

At this point, either send it to Pac Nor for everything including stripping the BlackT and reapply Cerakote,

Or send the original barrel to Rock for duplication, 5 months later send the stock, action and new barrel to Lee, he completes the metal work, then possibly back to Birdsong for new BlackT....