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Their flagship, the TC Hawken, or any of their traditional rifles, for that matter. Purchased this one back in the late 80's and have shot only round balls and lead conicals through it with excellent accuracy, and have killed a few deer with it.


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They did put out some nice wood in those days - I bought a kit Hawken around then.

Wood was good, not like that, but the metal work was excellent.

I do miss the look of a good Hawken, I think Lyman is about the last long running maker of a "classic" lock-style rifle.

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I bought mine about 1976. So far I am on my 3rd barrel. Last time,they said they were getting low on barrel and probably could not replace it again under warranty


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I have a .50 cal Renegade that I bought new. It has to be at least 25 years old, maybe 30. It hasn't been shot very much. What wears the barrels out and how long do they last? I've shot round ball, Maxi-Hunter and Maxi-ball out of mine but never killed anything with it.

I didn't know TC would replace under warranty. Aren't they owned by S&W now? That can't be a good thing. I had an issue with a Contender rifle and it was a PIA working with them.

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They came with a lifetime warranty to the original buyer but it’s not worth much when they run out of parts. They’ve been out of most stuff for years, especially for the Seneca and Cherokee. I belive most of the inventory and tooling went up in smoke. I’d love to see them bring back the sidelocks. The Hawken, Renegade, Seneca and Cherokee, they had some nice rifles.


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Love my T/C’s! Use a 50 cal Hawken with incredible full fiddleback stock, a 54 Hawken, a 54 Renegade and a pristine 45 cal Seneca. I would strongly advise anyone who shoots their Hawken, et. al. to look at No Excuses conicals. Simply the best, with real black powder of course.


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I concur with the OP! A shame! I got my first T/C Hawken .50 cal in about ‘73. A well built and accurate rifle! Sold it to a kid who was just getting into muzzleloading.

Edit! Just realized I still have the Lyman RB mold and handles that came with it in the "starter" kit. Still using it!!!

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I didn't know TC totally got out of replica guns. I still run an old C.V.A. Hawkins, and while it's not quite as good a gun as the T.C.'s, I really like it a lot. The wood's lighter in color than the T.C.'s and it's dinged up from lots of years of hunting, but like I said, I still admire the feel and looks of a Hawkins.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
I bought mine about 1976. So far I am on my 3rd barrel. Last time,they said they were getting low on barrel and probably could not replace it again under warranty


TC replaced my barrel on my .54 Hawken back in the late 90's. I had noticed that cleaning patches came out with holes in them, and when I dropped a bore light down the barrel found that the barrel was corroded and pitted. That was because I followed TC's very poor advice (as admitted to by the technician I spoke with at TC) and used Bore Butter as a "preservative." That stuff is fine as a lubricant, but awful for protecting the bore. I always use something like FP-10 or Eezox now to protect against rust and the bore still looks shiny and new.

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I have a Hawkins 50 cal. flintlock, I'm considering selling...early 80's I think. I only shot patched roundballs, although I remember some guys using plastic cups for patches.

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Built a .50 Renegade back in the early '80s and it was a keeper. Then a neighbor broke into the house while I was on a trip and stole it. Last I heard the rat was doing federal time on other charges. Lucky boy.


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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
I have a Hawkins 50 cal. flintlock, I'm considering selling...early 80's I think. I only shot patched roundballs, although I remember some guys using plastic cups for patches.



The "Poly Patch" IIRC - green in color for .50 caliber, think I still have a few left in the canvas mil-surp bag I used as a possibles pouch.

The patch was prone to losing the round ball, it would pop or roll out of the nose of the patch if the ball was undersized, and roll down or out of the barrel.

My .50 cal TC Hawken kit rifle was stolen in Raeford NC outside of Ft Bragg right before a PCS move, never recovered - miss that rifle.

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I used those poly patches in a .54 Hawken when I first started hunting. My dad used them for years before that

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Wish I had kept the factory .54 1:48 barrel for my Hawken to shoot conicals out of.

Really like my 1:66 GM barrel for a prb but I would like to try heavier conicals on deer.

Finding a .54 1" barrel isn't real easy. Too bad they aren't making more barrels these days as well as complete rlifles.


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I know I really like my Rengade .54 and all I have used is patched round balls and on Whitetail Deer it is not lacking. I know there not period correct but it's close enough for Me.
I to wish they were still in business. The price for a peep sight on eBay is nuts for the Rengade I have.
The only thing I did was to put a new and smaller white ivory front sight.
I clean mine with mouse milk and finish up with Balastol for rust protection.

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Rice barrels will make a custom drop in barrel for your Renegade or Hawken, custom length, twist rate etc. As long as your stock/action is good you can have basically a new gun with a new barrel.


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That's a beautiful ol rifle! Always wanted a 54 or 58 caliber TC rifle.


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I have hunted a 54 Renegade flintlock since 1982. I have a L+R lock on it now. I shoot at least 100 balls through it every year before our post Chrismas flintlock only season. Barrels still shines like a mirror.

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Originally Posted by 1100RemingtonMan
I know I really like my Rengade .54 and all I have used is patched round balls and on Whitetail Deer it is not lacking. I know there not period correct but it's close enough for Me.
I to wish they were still in business. The price for a peep sight on eBay is nuts for the Rengade I have.
The only thing I did was to put a new and smaller white ivory front sight.
I clean mine with mouse milk and finish up with Balastol for rust protection.




How much are they going for? I have one for my Renegade that I never put on, opened it but never installed it.


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I'm another fan of the T/C caplock rifles. I deer hunt with 54 caliber Renegade rifles using PRBs and black powder. I also enjoy shooting a 36 caliber Seneca. The Seneca has a 45 caliber barrel too, but I've never used it. OP, beautiful wood on your Hawken.


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