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I you ever heads of minding you own business? Tag that you sorry human!
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What is the big deal???

I’m currently working with two Whelens, both Remington 700’s. My default powder after working with another 700 Classic has been H-4895. One of my current rifles is a 700 from the Custom shop that I bought used a couple of years ago. It may not be necessary but to ensure a good shoulder/head space, I take new cases and expand them to .363, then .375. I then anneal them with Mule Deer’s technique. I then size them in a 35 Whelen die to the point where the cases will chamber with somewhat stiff resistance.

My 700 Custom has a 24” barrel and with H-4895, the Speer gives 2540 fps but is more accurate at 2500 fps. The Nosler 250 Partition is maybe 25 fps faster. Both of these bullets have given several four shot groups of 3/4” or less. The best load all around load I think, is with the 225 A/bond and H4895 at 2720 fps although I tested loads ip to 2750 fps. More than once 4 shot groups have been just over half an inch. Hard to beat with that much power and trajectory. These are all loads on the Nosler manual.

You must be agitated as you can even put together a coherent sentence, ya lil' Twat..

No!!! But I had a stroke 10 years ago!!! So tag that you SOB! I never even knew the "thread options" exsisted!!

And I still cant do a fuggin PDF? file, wish someone would post the damn load data.

Sorry to hear that about your stroke..
Had three TIA's myself winter before last, changed my diet, haven't had one since..

Here is a direct link to the pdf file..
Maybe it'll work..

https://www.speer-ammo.com/download...35_caliber_357-358_dia/35_Whelen_250.pdf

There are 18 powders listed for the 250gr.Hotcore with Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR giving the highest velocity @ 2709 fps..
Max. load = 66.2 Compressed.
Barrel length wasn't listed..

I feel your pain. Hope this helps!

Hey, Thanks Nrut and damnyankee308, I appreciate it greatly, I could go to the pdf's, but didn't know how to load, save or play them.

Now I need to get busy shooting up those 2600 fps 250gr Whelen loads and see what the old girl will really do, that power pro 2000 load is treading on the heels of a 338 WM.

g500,
I shot a bunch of that combination earlier in the year, ending up at 66 gr under the bigger Partition. Not only is it quick, but accuracy is superb out of my 700CDL. It is a very clean burning load.
That big squishy recoil pad Remington put on the rifle is getting a pretty good workout.

NICE! my 35 Whelen was a rusted bore pre-64 model 70, sent it off to JES for a 35 W rebore and rechamber, had him throat it so I could use ALL the mag box length with any bullet, including round noses, bought a McWoody from Jorge here at the 'fire, took them all up to my Gunsmith, had him bed the stock, black matte cerakote all metal, float the barrel, and set the trigger at two pounds, it wears a matte 2.5-8 Leupold in dual dovetail bases and rings, it's one of the most un-fussy rifles I've ever had, shoots all bullets I've put through it with more than acceptable accuracy for 400 long yards of hunting.

I like that term "unfussy." Like overkill, it's way under-rated as a truly desirable characteristic in a rifle.
Sounds like you've put together an excellent hunting companion.

LOL, Thanks fishdog52, Your rifle sounds like a dandy too.

I know this has been dormant for a year but I am hoping y'all can help me out. I'm wanting to use Alliant pro power varmint powder for 200 grain Accubond bullets in 35 whelen. I've looked at noslers data and even made some imr 8208 xbr loads that were pretty good. I just really want to try pro power varmint. It is at the top of the velocity for 180gr and 220 so it seems like it would be for 200 also. I think speer has caught on to something before everyone else when it comes to 35 whelen and pro power varmint. Hopefully other manufacturers will test this powder with their bullets and update their load data.
I think I could safely take the maximum load for a bullet that is 20 grain heavier and start there with load development. I'm essentially asking if other people have done something similar and if so are my assumptions safe.
I know that bullet construction differs and that that effects pressure but all I can go from is speer bullets hot core (cup and core) type load data. Their 180gr max is 70gr of pro power varmint at over 3100fps (I loaded this and this velocity is legit) and 220gr max is 63.8gr. Theoretically a 200gr bullet max would be 66.9gr of powder. I am considering starting at 64gr-64.9gr and was wondering if someone who has done something similar would weigh in.
Thanks

Most likely you are right and that'll work fine, but I'd back off a bit from that, maybe another grain or two, just to be safe. It'll cost you a few extra bullets and primers but it's worth being extra cautious with starting loads if you don't have actual data. Most of the time what you describe works out great, but I've run into enough cases myself where that technique ended up being a max load or even blowing primer pockets.

To be clear, I have no problem working up to hot loads, I'm just advocating starting a little lower to be sure. Do please post your results though; I'd like to see them.

I'm building an Ackley Improved, 24". That could get interesting.

Sometimes it takes a little time to have a PDF file download and open. There also may be a small window or bar on the screen ( near the top or bottom of the page, that is asking you if you want to down load the file. If so, click " yes" or "download file" depending on your command options. Then, be patient, and let the file download and open. May take a minute of two.

My little no name tablet is VERY slow with PDF files.