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i have a Tikka T3 Hunter in 6.5X55. It's not fussy about bullet brand as long as they weigh 126-140 grains. My preferred powders are Alliant Reloader 19 for the lighter bullets and H4831SC for the heavier ones. The charge is 47-47.5 grains for either of the powder/bullet combinations. A RemCL 140 also shot very accurately over 40gr Ramshot Hunter.

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A lot of good info here. However, I will have to load down for my old rifle... :

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BSA that is a nice one. Birch or Walnut stock, looks to have some curl to it. I am not about to experiment on a classic old rifle but it appears that with progressive powders like the Nitro Chemie types the pressure occurs further down the barrel than more conventional powders. I wonder if this is reliable enough to use in older actions. The theory being that peak pressure would not occur in the chamber but would be spread out more down the barrel.


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Hmm. I'm not sure. I was playing around the other day with IMR 4350 and some Hornady bullets. Won high overall score at a military rifle shoot, the second day I owned it. It's a m96 Swedish mauser, so whatever kind of wood they used is what the stock is. It does have some nice figure for a military rifle. I look forward to shooting this one more. Found some Lapua brass the other day for $80.00/100. Well worth it to me, for the quality of brass you get. By the way, this old rifle was shooting 1 moa 3 shot groups, with 3 different factory loads. Surprisingly, thats with irons. Should be a pretty easy rifle to load for.


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I’m pretty sure that like the 6.5 CM you could stuff the case with horse poop and seat something that fits down the bore and they will shoot great. They are both super easy to load for. Not for your M96, but RL26 and a 140’s at 2900 turns the Swede into a whole nother machine. I’d imagine most of the book data is made for those old Swedes isn’t it BSA?


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Originally Posted by beretzs
I’m pretty sure that like the 6.5 CM you could stuff the case with horse poop and seat something that fits down the bore and they will shoot great. They are both super easy to load for. Not for your M96, but RL26 and a 140’s at 2900 turns the Swede into a whole nother machine. I’d imagine most of the book data is made for those old Swedes isn’t it BSA?



I can't remember what the book said concerning loads for the m96, but I went with a middle of the road load of 38.5 gr. of IMR 4350 and a 129gr. Hornady pill and it shot great. No signs of overpressure and excellent accuracy. I look forward to working on some more loads and now that I have a taller front sight, maybe I can cut the x-ring out of a few targets... wink


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Lilja barrel on Remington action
Lapua brass
fed 215
Reloader #26
127g barnes long range accubond or 130g accubond
49.5-51.5g
I use a forster long powder funnel
VERY accurate. 51.5g is going 3150 fps
Work up to this load in your rifle.

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Originally Posted by keith
Lilja barrel on Remington action
Lapua brass
fed 215
Reloader #26
127g barnes long range accubond or 130g accubond
49.5-51.5g
I use a forster long powder funnel
VERY accurate. 51.5g is going 3150 fps
Work up to this load in your rifle.


Great info! How long is your barrel?


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1919 Carl Gustav...

30 grains RL 7, 160 RN... kicks less than a 243, or feels like it, with the original factory military stock...
29 inch barrel runs it right at 2350 fps.

30 grains of RL 7 or 4198, and a 120 ballistic tip....that is running right at 2500 fps..

both are pretty darn accurate....recoil is almost non existent with the factory stock..


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Originally Posted by Seafire
1919 Carl Gustav...

30 grains RL 7, 160 RN... kicks less than a 243, or feels like it, with the original factory military stock...
29 inch barrel runs it right at 2350 fps.

30 grains of RL 7 or 4198, and a 120 ballistic tip....that is running right at 2500 fps..

both are pretty darn accurate....recoil is almost non existent with the factory stock..


Awesome. Thanks John.. I may have to check into those for my Carl Gustav..


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I tried 50.0 RL26 with a 130 accubond in Lapua brass in my tikka Swede. 5 shot avg 2770 fps. Tula LRM primers. I could probably add a couple grains. Barrel gets real hot very quickly with RL26.

Barrel only has 25 shots through it, do Tikka barrels speed up after 150-200 shots like a Bartlein does?


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Not sure about Tikka barrels but the 130 load sounds like an easy shooting combo. I played a little 26 and 130 ABs and they were quite speedy.


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Tried the 120 E-tip at 3.00 OAL and got a 4” “group” out of the same rifle. Gonna seat them deeper and try again. RL26 might not be the best powder for the 120, I may try to find some RL16.


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Didn’t run any 120’s that I can remember with 26, but it might be okay with those monos and a long drop tube. I’d bet you’d get some smoking speeds though.


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Yeah, I can’t get the 120 ETip any shorter than 2.87 with 51.0 of 26 so they’re definitely compressed.


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My Steyr likes heavier bullets.....140 gr. 150gr.......She gets tighter group's.

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Originally Posted by CowboyTim
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CowboyTim,

Looks like 100% case fill is right at guesstimated max. But note that this is C.I.P. maximum of ~55k PSI and not S.A.A.M.I. max of ~51k PSI (46k CUP).

USE THIS DATA AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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Cartridge          : 6.5 x 55 Swedish
Bullet             : .264, 140, Nosler PART SP 16321
Useable Case Capaci: 50.537 grain H2O = 3.281 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.125 inch = 79.38 mm
Barrel Length      : 23.6 inch = 600.0 mm
Powder             : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.209% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-02.1   98    46.80   2726    2310   49998  11425     95.9    1.273  ! Near Maximum !
-01.9   98    46.90   2732    2320   50353  11449     96.0    1.269  ! Near Maximum !
-01.7   98    47.00   2739    2331   50711  11473     96.1    1.265  ! Near Maximum !
-01.5   98    47.10   2745    2342   51070  11497     96.2    1.261  ! Near Maximum !
-01.3   99    47.20   2751    2353   51434  11521     96.3    1.257  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    47.30   2758    2364   51799  11544     96.4    1.252  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8   99    47.40   2764    2375   52167  11567     96.5    1.248  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6   99    47.50   2771    2386   52539  11590     96.6    1.244  ! Near Maximum !
-00.4   99    47.60   2777    2397   52914  11613     96.6    1.240  ! Near Maximum !
-00.2  100    47.70   2783    2408   53292  11635     96.7    1.236  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    47.80   2790    2420   53671  11658     96.8    1.232  ! Near Maximum !
+00.2  100    47.90   2796    2431   54057  11680     96.9    1.228  ! Near Maximum !
+00.4  100    48.00   2803    2442   54442  11702     97.0    1.224  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.6  101    48.10   2809    2453   54833  11724     97.1    1.220  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.8  101    48.20   2815    2464   55225  11745     97.2    1.216  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0  101    48.30   2822    2475   55622  11767     97.2    1.212  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    47.80   2874    2568   59257  11689     99.0    1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    47.80   2693    2255   48469  11443     93.4    1.290  ! Near Maximum !



Thanks, that's about what I thought it would look like. Looks like 7828 would be a pretty decent place to start. Have quite a bit left over from loading .270 Win, always worked good there too.




will be curious to read your results. Any follow up would be greatly appreciated.

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Tikka T3 - Been easy to load for. It shoots about everything decent, but I really like these 3 for about everything.

143 ELD-x
CCI Large Rifle
Lapua Brass
50.0 grain RL 26 @ 2815 fps.
.7" 5 shot groups

123 Scenar
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48.0 grains IMR 4955 @ 2980 fps.
.6" 5 shot groups

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Can anybody share some successful loads with non-lead bullets. I read through all nine pages of this thread and only found two lead free recipes. Would love a few more. Thanks.

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