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I'm thinking this could be a great all arounder. Can leave it in the truck, carry it to a deer stand, haul it out west, pop coyotes across a field.

So far the only .223 I have is a RAR Compact. Fun to shoot but stock and mag are crap.

What do y'all think?


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My Montana 223 is the only rifle I have paid retail for in several years. It's likely the last rifle I would ever sell. Buy one.


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I've been using one for a lot of years now as a farm gun. It lives in an ATV gun boot. It's lived a rough life and rarely is there a day that goes by where it isn't carried....though it's rarely shot.

The only reason not to get one would be to wait on Barrett to make a .223 Fieldcraft......

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It won't kill unless it is an AI.

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Due the light weight,they are likely hard to shoot and kick hard.

Hint.................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Due the light weight,they are likely hard to shoot and kick hard.

Hint.................


That was my biggest concern. My 6.5 seems to be fine.


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Compared to what?

I only have (3).................


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Compared to my other rifles. It's a baby. low recoil, low cost, low drama


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Damn!

That sounds good...............


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light rifles are hard to shoot. You'll probably have to practice.


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I'd rather Google it.

Hint.

Laughing!................


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try that first


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Sounds expensive.

I'll need to look at your pictures and "live" vicariously.......................


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Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

The Kimber Montana is King in the ergonomics game. They just feel right....


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If only they made one in 22-250.....

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And 1-14"................


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B&C now makes a stock for the RAR. Can't help you with the mag.



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Sweet!

Adding weight,makes a Montucky "great".

Laughing!..............


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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

The Kimber Montana is King in the ergonomics game. They just feel right....


I figure a guy could find one if he looked hard enough. I could one from here that doesn't shoot. smile

Why would they drop them from the line?


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If a guy can find the holy grail of Montana’s years after production a 223 will be easy for a long time.


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Originally Posted by RDW
If a guy can find the holy grail of Montana’s years after production a 223 will be easy for a long time.


What year would that be?


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Believe RDW was referencing the 7 WSM

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I only have (3) of 'em,in 7 Whizzum.....................(grin)


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I only have (3) of 'em,in 7 Whizzum.....................(grin)


I picked one up off Gunbroker this last year.

Haven't loaded for it yet, though.

What's your favorite recipe Stick?


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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162 ELD's and '22 in two-thirds of 'em and 180 ELD's and '25 in the other..................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
162 ELD's and '22 in two-thirds of 'em and 180 ELD's and '25 in the other..................


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Spill your guts,on the findings.............


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Stick, what's the speedo showing with the 180's

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2900fps is a breeze.

It's SERIOUS fhuqking medicine and that boolit is simply a marvel............


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Spill your guts,after the fact.............


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Originally Posted by tzone
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Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

The Kimber Montana is King in the ergonomics game. They just feel right....


I figure a guy could find one if he looked hard enough. I could one from here that doesn't shoot. smile

Why would they drop them from the line?


Kimber isn't known for brilliant rifle decisions, but I really don't know the reason.


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They'll fhuqk up and go ValCry or sumptin'...or even 22 Nuzzler!...............(grin)


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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

What a shame!


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All they gotta do is spin up an 8 twist 223 barrel for the win unless Barrett beats 'em to it....


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Originally Posted by RDW
All they gotta do is spin up an 8 twist 223 barrel for the win unless Barrett beats 'em to it....


An 8 twist, on the less expensive Hunter model would sell like aspirin on New Year’s Day 🥃


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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
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All they gotta do is spin up an 8 twist 223 barrel for the win unless Barrett beats 'em to it....


An 8 twist, on the less expensive Hunter model would sell like aspirin on New Year’s Day 🥃


A 7 rwist with a 2.5" mag box even moreso....

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The 223 Montana was the best Montana. I would change the twist to 1 in 7 or 8, and lengthen the mag confines a bit, but it is as close to perfect as I've seen. It might be my favorite rifle.


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Mine wears a hawk Hill 1-8 @21". Gets shot a lot, carried a lot. 62tsx, for killing and 55vmax for playing/predator-varmint hunting. It will never get sold.



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Originally Posted by DanInAlaska
Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

What a shame!


That leaves the market wide open for Barrett! Please!!! I hope they are listening!

Got tired of waiting on Barrett so I did just pick up a Montana 223 last week. Hoping the 9 twist shoots the 62 ttsx? A Fieldcraft will be on order the second I hear they are shipping.

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Agreed! If Barrett drops a "micro action" in .223, 6.5 Grendel, etc I will likely own a few more Barretts which can only be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by edapp
Agreed! If Barrett drops a "micro action" in .223, 6.5 Grendel, etc I will likely own a few more Barretts which can only be a good thing.

In the Grendel and I'm in.

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The FC is already light, why re-tool for a Chipmunk when the existing platform works great?


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Originally Posted by RDW
The FC is already light, why re-tool for a Chipmunk when the existing platform works great?


They need excuses to not build a lefty.

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I bought a KM .223 a number of years ago, since I enjoyed shooting my KM .308 so much.....much cheaper to reload for, and easier on the shoulder, but is the same platform. I have shot thousands of rounds through it, and it still easily shoots under an inch. Actually just bought a box of 50 Hornady 55 grain vmax for the brass and printed a group of three not much larger than 3/8". Shot coyote, fox, otter, ptarmigan, handful of caribou, etc.....

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What can would you put on a 223 Montana?

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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker
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Better grab one quick. Kimber dropped the 223 for 2019.

The Kimber Montana is King in the ergonomics game. They just feel right....


I figure a guy could find one if he looked hard enough. I could one from here that doesn't shoot. smile

Why would they drop them from the line?


Kimber isn't known for brilliant rifle decisions, but I really don't know the reason.


The 22-250 and 204 was dropped also.

Only available in the various varmint or heavy barrel offerings. Very disappointing. No 6mm CM either.

Who makes a new model called the "Open Country" and only chambers it in 6.5 CM or 308? The name and configuration begs for the 243, 257R, 25-06, 270, 280AI, 7mmRM, 7WSM, 300WM, 300WSM, 6.5PRC etc.

Oh to be the Kimber manager of product development.

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If we could use them for deer in VA I would have one. Wound up with a Montana in .260 instead. Spent a few dollars finding what bullets that one liked.

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Originally Posted by vabowhntr
If we could use them for deer in VA I would have one. Wound up with a Montana in .260 instead. Spent a few dollars finding what bullets that one liked.


Va deer have thicker skin. IIRC .223 is legal in WV, MD, NC, TN, and KY....

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More than a few folks are Moosing with Montucky 223's. Elks too.

Hint....................


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More than a few folks are Moosing with Montucky 223's. Elks too.

Hint....................


Doubt I'll be Moosin' or chasing Elks with my Montucky .223, but what would those folks be using for a bullet?

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In OEM spouts,the Hornie 75 BTHP shines in all atmospheres,as do the 62TSX(best .224" X-er going). In rebarreled 223/223AI Customs...the 75'Max/ELD are the mainstays,though the 88 ELD is coming along strong.

Same goes Bears.

Hint................


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