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Just booked a hike to the top to celebrate retiring from the military and my 60-1/2th birthday.

Any tips from those who have been?

Would have backed it up with a hunting safari, but promised Mrs. Walter a few days in Amsterdam on the way home. ....


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Congratulations! Thanks for your service.
I have never been to Eff-rica.... but even at that, my advice is to extend your trip 3 weeks and spend 14 days hunting some of those great enn-imals!!

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Just saw your post. My daughter climbed Kilimanjaro 2 years ago. A week on Kili and a week on the Serengeti. She loved it. Not hunting but she found just about every animal there and took over 1000 photo's. Which route up the mountain are you taking. I will look up and send you the protocol on put her on before the trip. Of the 5 climbers she was the only one to make it to the top with no high altitude med's and she was also the only one that never got headaches or sick. All made it to the top but most needed help with the porters carrying more. My daughter carried her backpack all the way up and all the way down. She said it was incredible and well worth it.

She did the Machame route and spent 4 days above 11,000 feet. Her guide just recently completed his 205th ascent and round trip.

I asked about which route up as the preparation is different and the amount of time to acclimate is different. I am in my mid 60's and she said she would go there again with me if I wanted. I get my choice of Kilimanjaro, part of the PCT, end of the world trail in Patagonia (in both Argentina and Chile) or the Kungsleden trail in northern Sweden. Have to choose one by February this year.

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How do you and high altitude get along? A few days to acclimate would be good. Spent a year in Kenya (high school) but any advice is second hand.

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One of my Dr. did a trip last year to the top. We trade story's every year on where we both went, i take a photo book for him to glance through and he shows me some of his photos.

first thing he said was to take the quickest to the top as many offer different packages. Make sure you have a porter to pack most if not all of your equipment up the mountain. Take very warm clothing, using different base layers. Layers being the priority. Go over everything with your agent to make sure you have your bases covered. His camera battery went dead and he only had a few photos from his i phone showing him being at the top. I think he said only about 40% to 50% of the group made it to the top. They had a storm the last day going up, very windy and cold, some stopped within a few 100 feet of reaching the marker.

Visit your doctor, making sure you do not have heart issues, because as you walk up the mountain, the thin air makes a difference. My Dr had packed oxygen, just in case he needed it, and he used it. We are at 5,300 feet and the hill to the east that goes to 13,000 plus, this was a plus in his trail hiking.

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Originally Posted by Bwana338
One of my Dr. did a trip last year to the top. We trade story's every year on where we both went, i take a photo book for him to glance through and he shows me some of his photos.

first thing he said was to take the quickest to the top as many offer different packages. Make sure you have a porter to pack most if not all of your equipment up the mountain. Take very warm clothing, using different base layers. Layers being the priority. Go over everything with your agent to make sure you have your bases covered. His camera battery went dead and he only had a few photos from his i phone showing him being at the top. I think he said only about 40% to 50% of the group made it to the top. They had a storm the last day going up, very windy and cold, some stopped within a few 100 feet of reaching the marker.

Visit your doctor, making sure you do not have heart issues, because as you walk up the mountain, the thin air makes a difference. My Dr had packed oxygen, just in case he needed it, and he used it. We are at 5,300 feet and the hill to the east that goes to 13,000 plus, this was a plus in his trail hiking.

Bwana338. I trust you friend is telling you what he believes is correct. My daughters group had all 5 go to the top. They took oxygen but nobody used it. If you research this issue you will find that the shortest fastest trips have by far the highest failure to summit rate. Her group was camped in snow at 16,400 feet and climbed the 4,000 or so more in a storm and the temp's at the summit were between 15 and 20 degrees F.

Full preparation is necessary as you noted. The park does not allow anyone to climb without porters. With her guide company each climber had one porter and they were allowed one large duffel of up to 35#. Personal backpack was limited to 15#. Additional porters carried the tents, food, etc. The personal porter had your own items, with sleeping bag, ground pad, etc.

The different packages you note as also a difference of trails. The park only allows I believe 7 routes up. Nobody is allowed to just climb where they want. The routes with more days do cost more, but have higher success as you get a chance to 1. acclimate to the altitude and 2. your daily climb is slightly less. Once you are behind on oxygen it is hard to get caught up as the air, as you noted is getting quite thin.

My daughter was making her first summit of a high mountain and her training was near sea level where she lives. Her access within a couple hours was at the most to train and hike up to about 4,000 elevation. She was walking with 30 lbs in a pack 2-3 times per week for 1-2 hours at about 1,000 foot elevation to prepare.

I agree on a check-up. There are other medical issues to discuss. I would recommend the insurance which is about $65. If there is a medical emergency you will be helicopter evac'd to a medical facility. Without insurance you will be billed for that ride. All groups have multiple guides trained and certified in high altitude emergency medicine. If they think you cannot go on you will be escorted down or evac'd. Their say is final and it isn't just what you want. The fact that there are so few medical emergencies is why the full insurance is only $65 as it is seldom used.

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Did it back in 2001. You’ll have a. Awesome time.

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It is a great mountain in a great place. Where you live you will be able to get some time at altitude. I watched a good vid on You Tube, Run Gum Presents Kilimanjaro. It shows the Umbwe Route on a very plush outing. Going to altitude w/ porters is not a bad thing. For me taking your time is the secret unless you like feeling as if you have a world class hangover. Have a great time, you deserve it.


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Thank you for your service David. Congrats on your retirement. When are you headed up the mountain?

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Just booked July 13-23 of 2019


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If anyone has been and has tips to share on clothing, etc., including sleeping systems, please post here.

Or any hikers that have experience above 19,000 feet.


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Originally Posted by David_Walter
Just booked a hike to the top to celebrate retiring from the military and my 60-1/2th birthday.

Any tips from those who have been?

Would have backed it up with a hunting safari, but promised Mrs. Walter a few days in Amsterdam on the way home. ....


Congrats on both your retirement and upcoming trip...😎


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Not done it personally, but a 70 year old hunting buddy and his 59 year old desk jockey girl friend made it in fine order with a well managed tour group. Had porters to pack both camp gear and personal bags. Pretty much just hiking with no need for serious climbing skills. Photos from the top showed them slickered up and with several layers on.

They did spring for some sort of trip/evacuation insurance in case shtf.

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