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Japanese-made scopes are almost all produced by LOW:

http://www.light-op.co.jp/english/

I always wonder if people dig up 7 year old threads for some purpose, or they just didn't check the date.............

I heard it’s owned by Walmart.

Please don't reply to every fuggin 7 yr old thread you find doing whatever fugging lengthy online search you do. Thanks in advance.

Probably, either or both.

Nothing wrong with an old thread. Not all of us have been here since Day 1.

Almost all, eh? I wonder if Sightron is a client.

ETA: I purchased a nice bin from EO during the waning reverberations of their swan song. All good things must come to an end they say.

Please don't allow the screen door smack your arse on the way out. Should one have a disdain for oldie moldy threads it would behoove them not to participate rather than help regenerate

Don't ya think mate?

Beware, that might be a trick question,

Ah yes, the false dichotomy; tres tres chic. Our next long distance dedication goes out to youse LeCreek. Del Shannon from 1961 BaH-BE!

To end this misery and I wonder,

I WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH, wonder ...

Wrong azz to be crawlin up “Mate.”

BTW, using the term Mate is fuggin gay. Mate.

This is a good example of the point HOGGHEAD was trying to make. Seven years ago Zen Ray was a darling of birdwatchers and hunters looking for good optics at cheap prices. Today Zen Ray is out of business and no one knows where Charles is, he's gone into hiding. Any warranty, of course, is worthless.

I have a pair of zen ray ed2's that I bought as demos for truck binoculars. They're good binos and worth the $250 I paid for them but if something goes wrong they're throw aways now. I'm glad I didn't pay full price banking on their "lifetime" warranty.

Looks like you were right in this instance, and I was wrong. Not the first time for me though.

You're a good man JG....

A few companies were repair shops for optics if future service is ever an issue. Contract Manufacturing doesn’t mean all products made by the same company get same levels of scrutiny. That’s true for quite a few industries. Electronics, optics, even vertically integrated companies focus more on their top tier models and mostly their high margin customers get extra inspections and customer service. It’s about value and/or perceived value. A purpose built $3k optic could leave more margin for extra scrutiny and Customers are going to demand more vs. a $200 run of the mill.

From reviews, it seems SWFA has exploited a hole in market and focused more on repeatability whole image was a secondary concern probably upgraded more as their CM upgraded glass/coatings in general. They found a niche and others who focused more on lens tech are most likely setup entirely for that end making it very hard to now change directions to catch up. Knowing the direction a market will turn and investing for it is a gamble.
As we say in the Start-Up world “It’s easy to be second”. The model of the big players “Buying the segment disruptor” is largely past IMO. Consumers have gotten used to the Electronics model in that before a model hits the retail shelf its been built, packaged, warehouses, and the company is 2 generations past it already.