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http://www.powelltribune.com/stories/feds-grizzlies-likely-to-remain-listed-for-years,16793

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is considering its options as a deadline nears to appeal a U.S. District Court ruling that relisted the Yellowstone area’s grizzly bears under the Endangered Species Act. However, the options available to the service could take years to enact.

In a phone conversation with members of the Wyoming Legislature’s Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resources Committee this month, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service grizzly bear recovery coordinator Hilary Cooley was frank about the prospects of once again delisting the Yellowstone Ecosystem grizzly bears.

Fielding questions from the committee, Cooley said the agency may pass on the opportunity to appeal U.S. District Court Judge Dana Christensen’s September decision that relisted area grizzly bears. Instead, Cooley said the service may propose a new rule to delist the Yellowstone area’s bears.

The deadline to appeal the Montana judge’s decision is Monday, Dec. 24. If the agency chooses to proceed with an appeal, Cooley said the process will take at least two years.

“My personal feeling is we would not be successful on appeal,” she told lawmakers. “If we’re not successful, that’s two years we’ve wasted.”

Addressing the three issues Christensen noted in his ruling would necessitate doing a comprehensive study of the species, determining how delisting affects other grizzly populations in the lower 48. Christensen said that by delisting only the Yellowstone Ecosystem grizzlies, the service ignored the northern Continental Divide population — a population in the Glacier National Park area and fully contained in Montana.

When deciding to delist in 2017, the Service decided genetic diversity was improving enough that it was not necessary to include language about possible plans to relocate bears between the two populations to increase diversity. Cooley said that may have been a mistake.

“We removed that commitment. Our feeling is if we had left that sentence in, this would probably not have been an issue in [Christensen’s] opinion,” she said.

Cooley called the genetic variability of the Yellowstone ecosystem’s grizzly bears “fairly low,” but improving.

“We do have bears moving closer and closer. The distribution of both populations are expanding,” she said. “We fully believe the bears will be connected in the near future.”

The relisting forced the service to delay plans to delist the Montana population.

“We were on schedule to have a proposed delisting rule for the Northern Continental Divide grizzly bear out by 2018,” Cooley said.

As for the second option — to propose a new delisting rule — Cooley expects that task could take up to a year to finish.

“If we don’t go for an appeal, the timeline is in our hands. We hope that we can move quickly. Both populations need to be delisted,” she said. “I would hope within a year we could put a proposed rule out.”

Once a new rule is proposed, a one-year public comment period would be necessary before it could be adopted.

Debate continues between Greg Sheehan, deputy director of the Service, and the staff of the ecological services department on which option is best, Cooley said.

Lawmakers on the Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resources committee encouraged the Fish and Wildlife Service to move forward with delisting efforts.

State Rep. Jim Allen — a Lander Republican and co-chair of the committee — said he thinks turning the species’ management over to the states is the best option for all parties.

“In my opinion, [delisting] is in the best interest of the bear, the best interest of the service and in the best interest of Wyoming,” Allen said. “We’re exasperated. We think we can drive this bus and do it well.”

Rep. Brian Boner, R-Douglas, echoed Allen’s frustration with the process.

“It seems like we shifted our focus from anything that resembles a scientifically based management plan to simply defending the lives and property of our citizens,” he said.

Park County Commissioners have been equally vocal in expressing their disagreement and frustration with Judge Christensen’s decision to relist the Yellowstone area’s grizzly bears.

“Certainly, Park County probably has, of all the counties, we have the most impact of anybody by the judge’s ruling,” Park County Commission Chairman Loren Grosskopf said at last week’s commission meeting.

Grosskopf is a member of the Yellowstone Grizzly Coordinating Committee, which helps guide the management of bears in the Yellowstone ecosystem. He represents county government on the panel, but will depart the committee at the end of the year when his term on the county commission ends. When Grosskopf’s replacement is picked for the Yellowstone Grizzly Coordinating Committee, “hopefully it’s somebody from Park County,” he said.

At the legislative committee’s Nov. 9 meeting in Cheyenne, Rep. Joe MacGuire, R-Casper, expressed concern about how much the six lawsuits brought against the Service’s delisting rule would cost taxpayers. Attorneys for groups suing the federal government are eligible to be reimbursed by the Equal Access to Justice Act, a federal law that allows parties to recoup their attorneys fees when they successfully challenge a government action.

Cooley said the Service would appeal attempts by the attorneys seeking payment.

“Paying for six different groups’ attorneys is pretty ridiculous,” she said.

The plaintiffs in the case included the Crow Indian Tribe, Humane Society of the United States, WildEarth Guardians, the Alliance for the Wild Rockies, the Northern Cheyenne Tribe and Chicago attorney Robert Aland. The groups have cheered Christensen’s decision to restore protections for the Yellowstone area’s grizzlies; they had been particularly concerned with planned grizzly hunts in Wyoming and Idaho.

“Facing ongoing threats and occupying a fraction of their historic range, grizzly bears are nowhere near recovery,” Andrea Santarsiere, a senior attorney with the Center for Biological Diversity, said immediately after the judge’s ruling. “These beautiful and beleaguered animals certainly shouldn’t be shot for cheap thrills or a bearskin rug.”

The Humane Society, meanwhile, issued a statement calling the reinstated protections “essential.”

“The Fish and Wildlife Service brazenly repeated the same errors that we successfully challenged when the agency tried to remove protections for wolves in the Great Lakes and we hope the agency will finally stop playing politics with our native carnivore species,” said Nicholas Arrivo, staff attorney for the group.

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Sounds like the anti's learned a few things from the wolves. They never dreamed that wolves would ever be hunted but in several states they are. They're making sure the bears don't end up that way, too.


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Tragic. Fuuuck the feds, anyway. I am done with being told what I can't do, so that I can pay people to do what should have been done by me. Frauds.


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The Judge was and Obama appointment and approved by Montana Senator John Tester.

Why MT kept that guy is a mystery, or maybe not.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The Judge was and Obama appointment and approved by Montana Senator John Tester.

Why MT kept that guy is a mystery, or maybe not.



John,
Tester is an embarrassment for sure makes you wonder what Montana voters were thinking? but then we had a poster here bragging about voting for him.. wtf

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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
The Judge was and Obama appointment and approved by Montana Senator John Tester.

Why MT kept that guy is a mystery, or maybe not.



John,
Tester is an embarrassment for sure makes you wonder what Montana voters were thinking? but then we had a poster here bragging about voting for him.. wtf


There is a deeper story about to break.

Maybe Big Finn wants to chime in about his support For Tester?


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Tester one 11 or 12 counties in the state of 56. Trouble is that doesn't matter. He was behind until late when Missoula finally got there count in. Reminded me of Broward Co., but not quite as bad. Both counties run by democrats.

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Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Tester one 11 or 12 counties in the state of 56. Trouble is that doesn't matter. He was behind until late when Missoula finally got there count in. Reminded me of Broward Co., but not quite as bad. Both counties run by democrats.


Yet Gianforte won the state wide House race.

Tester got a lot of "sportsman" support from 2 influential podcasts and from BHA.

Democrat ballot shenanigans might be the factor in many other races but Tester's win in MT can be traced to "sportsman" social media influencers and the podcasts supporting Tester.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Tester one 11 or 12 counties in the state of 56. Trouble is that doesn't matter. He was behind until late when Missoula finally got there count in. Reminded me of Broward Co., but not quite as bad. Both counties run by democrats.


Yet Gianforte won the state wide House race.

Tester got a lot of "sportsman" support from 2 influential podcasts and from BHA.

Democrat ballot shenanigans might be the factor in many other races but Tester's win in MT can be traced to "sportsman" social media influencers and the podcasts supporting Tester.


I agree. I told my uncle back in June that Rosendale would lose when it came out he wanted to get rid of federal land. Montanans don't like that at all.

Gianforte won, I believe, because Williams was very dangerous to gun owners. She bragged about her F rating from the NRA, but near to election she said she supports the 2nd Amendment. I think people saw through that.

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Rosendale never campaigned on getting rid of Federal land.

This was a false flag the Democratic operatives used to nudge "sportsman'" in to voting against their interests.

There is a big story about how lobbyist groups like the SEIU used "sportman" organizations to nudge this important race.

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Burns,

You need to start paying attention.

Maryland Matt cooked his own goose and there was no false flag about his position on transfer of federal lands. He made many a public statement that he was in favor of transferring federal lands. It wasn't until he realized he stepped on his johnson regarding that issue, that he had a moment of clarity and "changed" his mind. Trouble is, if you're going to claim you aren't for the transfer, then have Mike Lee come campaign for you at the 11th hour, you shouldn't be surprised that Sportsmen/women are NOT going to vote for you. Mike Lee is the last person on planet earth you want campaigning for you if you're claiming to care about public lands, public access, hunting, fishing or outdoor recreation.

Then of course the fact that Rosendale fought every proposal to increase access for sportsmen when on the land board. That isn't goin to help you any either.

He got exactly what he deserved and earned.

Finally, its nice to see that these assclown politicians are going to have start listening to public land advocates, hunters, fishermen, mountain bikers, hikers, birdwatchers, etc. etc. We want our public lands and we aren't going to sell out to a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to hand them over to private interests.

If I were a politician in a Western State...I'd start paying the "f" attention to what happened in Montana.

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Originally Posted by BuzzH
Burns,

You need to start paying attention.

Maryland Matt cooked his own goose and there was no false flag about his position on transfer of federal lands. He made many a public statement that he was in favor of transferring federal lands. It wasn't until he realized he stepped on his johnson regarding that issue, that he had a moment of clarity and "changed" his mind. Trouble is, if you're going to claim you aren't for the transfer, then have Mike Lee come campaign for you at the 11th hour, you shouldn't be surprised that Sportsmen/women are NOT going to vote for you. Mike Lee is the last person on planet earth you want campaigning for you if you're claiming to care about public lands, public access, hunting, fishing or outdoor recreation.

Then of course the fact that Rosendale fought every proposal to increase access for sportsmen when on the land board. That isn't goin to help you any either.

He got exactly what he deserved and earned.

Finally, its nice to see that these assclown politicians are going to have start listening to public land advocates, hunters, fishermen, mountain bikers, hikers, birdwatchers, etc. etc. We want our public lands and we aren't going to sell out to a bunch of snake oil salesmen trying to hand them over to private interests.

If I were a politician in a Western State...I'd start paying the "f" attention to what happened in Montana.


Buzzy,

In some ways you're not wrong and having Mike Lee campaign was a big mistake.

That said Tester's anti hunting and anti gun positions and those that supported him might just have a bit of back lash.

Let's see who reaps the Worlwind. laugh

I can promise every single Western State POL I deal with is well aware Mike Lee's BS.

That bull Schitt is done and never had a bit of a start..


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Burns,

Yeah, the "Worlwind"...Rosendale reaped it.

Issues still matter to voters, and they like public lands.

https://www.missoulacurrent.com/government/2018/12/tester-rosendale-public-lands/


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