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Originally Posted by Grand
If you look around you can still find kegs of 844 Mil Surp pull-down powder, which is the same as H335 for less than 1/2 the price.



I've got an 8 pound jug of 844, and about 10 pounds of 846, which is pretty much BLC-2. I prefer the 846 and have gotten excellent accuracy with it. Nothing wrong with H335 either.

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I have used 335 in all my 223's for years. From below zero on coyotes to high 90's on p-dogs. I've heard all the bad press but I've never had a problem. Max loads 50 blitzkings and 40 nosler ballistic tips. Never had a problem. with my Cooper with close to 10,000 rds. thru it it will still put 5 in a slightly out of round hole @ 100 yds. that load does great things to p-dogs and sends them higher than anything else I have used. I've had doubles go 8 to twelve feet each.


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H335 is the only powder I use for my .223s these days. When I couldn't find any a few years back, I tried some other powders like TAC and BL-C(2). Nothing else gives me the accuracy and velocity. I load it for three .223 rifles, a Ruger #1V, an AR-15 (20" heavy FN barrel), and a Tikka T3. My economy load is a max load of H335 and a 50 gr. Dogtown hollow point. This is sub-moa in all three. I use LC brass for the tikka and AR (full-length sized) and Winchester neck sized brass in the Ruger.

When I want to shoot ground squirrels at long distance, I switch to a 50 gr. Vmax in the Ruger and it is instant death on ground squirrels out to 300 yards as long as the wind isn't crazy. I've used this load in 100+ degree heat for ground squirrels, and in -10 for coyotes. No problems whatsoever.

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I tend not to load to max in most cartridges but usually close.When shooting in hot weather it may not bethe charge weight as much as letting the rounds get too hot in sunshine before Being chambered. This is only aggravated by then shooting them thru a hot chamber. Aberdeen proving grounds define a proof load as a standard load heated to 140 degrees.


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off topic for the powder....

but for the bullet.... 40 grainer plastic tips...

28 grains of Benchmark or 27.5 grains of H 322.....

Temp insensitive.....

H 335 may have not had issues in your rifles, but blew an action apart and messed up the stock
twice in 8 weeks... Ruger 77 Mk 2, 25 grains H 335 55 gr SP....90 degree heat.

I'll run about any powder in a 223, before I'll touch H 335, even on a cold day ( in hell, no less)


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Been using H335 for years in my 223. No problems or indications of problems. And that rifle gets more work than the rest of mine combined. No bullets are loaded at max. Great accuracy.

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I used H335 for 223 and it shot very well. I shot mostly 55 gr bullets. When compared to Accurate 2230 it seemed to be a dirty powder.

I changed to 2230.

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I have 35 lbs. and have never noticed a problem. Never shot in cold weather, but shot in 107 deg. temp. in MT with no pressure problems. Four different rifles.

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I've never had issues with H335 either. I've used it with three cartridges - the 222, 223 and a 6x45mm.


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Try Benchmark or one of the 4198’s. Better with temp insensitivity

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You might look at CFE223 it gets higher velocity burns clean also meters very well and seems to be available everywhere. I've never had a problem finding an accurate load with it in my 223's. Benchmark and CFE223 is about all I use anymore with light bullets in the 223 and it works equally well in the 22-250.

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One of the WORST powders with a hot gun on a hot day I've ever noted on a chronograph was a "temp insensitive" powder; of course loading to the gills and noting such is what I went to the range for to find out.

A lot of issues get blamed on the powder flowing from the spout, not the one filling the case, when the issues can be avoided in the first place.

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I keep reading that H335 is dirty. How does this dirtiness manifest itselt? Barrel get clogged and require frequent cleaning?

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I know a guy who carries his ammo in his lunchbox rather than let it sit in the sun while in a pasture poodle town.
So 335 does have a reputation. However it is cheaper. faster to drop powder and higher velocity than Benchmark.
Measured by my chronograph. Benchmark is just as accurate but not as fast. Same with Varget.
Nothing is perfect but with 40 gr bullets in a .223 H335 is awful close
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Even after the extreme powders came along, it was quite common for varmint and competitive shooters to carry their ammunition in coolers. How much of an effect temperature has on groups, has always been a subject of heated arguments. No pun intended.



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Originally Posted by whelennut
I know a guy who carries his ammo in his lunchbox rather than let it sit in the sun while in a pasture poodle town.
So 335 does have a reputation. However it is cheaper. faster to drop powder and higher velocity than Benchmark.
Measured by my chronograph. Benchmark is just as accurate but not as fast. Same with Varget.
Nothing is perfect but with 40 gr bullets in a .223 H335 is awful close
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Over my 35P 335 has been consistently solid 100-250 fps slower than Benchmark. 55’s being the 100 and 40’s being the high. My favorite 50-52 load of 25.8 grains BM whomps 335 by 200 fps consistently. Might need to fix your chrono as my results match real close to Nosler.



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I shoot 40's at 3950fps in a 20" 223AI,with '335.

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