Impressive. What is "full power" Cassull loads for the purposes of the demonstration/challenge? Not to take away from the feat, but the *apparent* recoil didn't appear to be very "bear"like.
Only have 44s and a .480 Ruger.
I'll have to work on the index finger on the front of the trigger guard, first. Have been using THAT to keep my middle finger knuckle from becoming hamburger with heavy loads.
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Watching some of those guys, just proves Phil Shoemaker right though. No handgun provides enough power to stop a big animal with one hit. Unless, that hit compromises nerve activities or breaks large bones.
Given that, smaller guns will work as effectively on a brain hit, And as ineffectivly with a bad hit, A lighter cartridge, that penetrates, and can give you more attempts, makes good sense.
It would be nice to be able to draw, aim, and cock the hammer before needing to shoot. Training that way?
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Impressive. What is "full power" Cassull loads for the purposes of the demonstration/challenge? Not to take away from the feat, but the *apparent* recoil didn't appear to be very "bear"like.
Only have 44s and a .480 Ruger.
I'll have to work on the index finger on the front of the trigger guard, first. Have been using THAT to keep my middle finger knuckle from becoming hamburger with heavy loads.
65,000 PSI loads are 454 full power loads and the challenge was with 300 grain bullets I believe.
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I would have to actually be there to shoot some of the loads before I am going to believe that, as those did not appear to be full power loads.
Not even close.
In fact I used to load some hot 360 grain .45 Colt loads that recoiled significantly harder than that in my Blackhawks.
I have to agree, particularly the loads the old guy at the end shot in his yard. That looked more like hot 45 Colt at best. The loads may be in 454 Casull brass, but certainly don't seem to be full power 454. Obviously lighter recoil makes that task a lot easier to do fast.
To the earlier question of what a full power 454 Casull is - a revolver that size (roughly 6"-8" barrel) can push a 300gr XTP to 1,600 fps.
Had the exact same gun for about three years and ran a load of a 260 grain bullet 1630 fps...very accurate but don't think I could even get off three shots in 3 seconds...wonder what could be done with a 3.5-5" Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 or .480...
Bob
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They were full-tilt 300 grain loads (Hornady if I can recall). You have to hold the recoil down if you want to follow-up quickly. We were using a non-ported 6-inch FA 83 and Towsley was using a ported 6-inch FA. The best I could muster that day was a 2.89 if my memory serves me well. It's a good exercise that addresses speed and control.
I was not referring to the first set of guys in the film, shooting at the indoor range. I was referring specifically to Towsley.
There was no doubt about the first group. That gun had some obvious sharp recoil. Towsely's however was pretty exceptionally light in the recoil department. I have large bore handguns, including ported and non ported Redhawks, and what I observed did not look like he was shooting the same power loads you guys were. Not even close. More like 454 Casull vs .45 Colt.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
I know Bryce and know that he is extremely capable with that FA 83 of his, and he's not one to be dishonest. The porting keeps the muzzle flip to a minimum.
Hmm...compared to the Jeff Quinn video (and others) shooting the .454 Casull, much less *apparent* recoil demonstrated. Most of the videos that I've seen show the barrel being thrown up and back to almost 90 deg from the firing position. The shooters in the video show quite good control AND recovery over their firearm with what we are being told are ~65,000 psi loads.
May need to get me one.
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