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I would go to Gunbroker and buy this Sako 30-06 with the Leupold scope for $799.99. Then I would sell that scope for $200.00 and since the gun already has rings, I would take the remaining money and buy this used German Zeiss Diavari 3-9X36 scope on ebay, and buy 165 grain ammunition for it and go hunting. I would sight the gun in at just under 1 inch high at 100 yards, and hold the vertical point of the "Z" plex right on for 300 yards and I could kill anything in North America with that combination. Your point blank distance with that setting is still 200 yards and at 300 you put that point on the target and hit it. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/785930534eBay item number:352474820948 This set-up or something very close to it!! IMHO you can't go wrong with the 30-06. >>> I would pick the 30-06 too in this used Sako too save a few bucks, plus don`t forget you can buy 30-06 ammo very easy ,probably from any mom or pop gas station too or a rancher too ?
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You have $700 for the rifle, $400 for the scope, and $100 for the rings. No after-market parts for the rifle other than a sling. No range finder. Factory ammo only; one load must do it all. Shooting prone from a backpack rest. Continental North America. Antelope, deer, moose, elk, caribou, sheep, goat, bison, wolf, and bears. The 30-06 or the 6.5 Creedmoor are your only two choices. KISS applies for all tie breakers. Once you step away from the plane, boat, or truck you are humping this rifle in - no horses, no ATV... Describe your medicine and tell me why. Describe how you set up your ballistic dope chart for the hunt.
My pick is M700 Long Range in 30-06, Burris with Ballistic Plex reticle, Federal 180 grain blue box or Premium Partition. A used 1993 M700ADL SS Mtn Rifle, Leupold 2-7 (VX-1 or 2) with the LR reticle in order to make sure to stay inside the money constraints. Factory ammo? Do they still make factory ammunition?.........Well, something with a Partition in it. Probably a 165 gr Partition sighted in 1.5" high. The ballistic "dots" would be close enough of a match for the bullet trajectory. I sure wouldn't want to hump a M700 LR rifle very far...........
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stainless Tikka with vx3i 3.5-10 CDS sitting in talleys. shooting 168TTSX, nothing you can't shoot in lower 48
that's my main rifle.
with the vx3 and up (i think) you can use the cross hair in the scope s a range finder.
Last edited by Dre; 12/11/18.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I have since Black Friday outfitted myself with a rig that would fill the OP's needs quite well - or at least my own needs. Anyway I picked up a Kimber Hunter 6.5 Creedmoor for $656 and a Vortex Razor 2-10 HD LH for $400. The whole rig weighs in at 6 3/4# and shoots < 1" with handloads. Not sure this would be my choice for a buffalo, but all the others would be fine.
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If I were on expensive hunts like moose, caribou or sheep, I would bargain with the wife, or yourself for whatever reason you need to up the budget for a Zeiss Conquest 2-10x42 HD scope and use Warne rings. I could get by with a good used second hand 30-06, something like a push feed M70 or Vanguard would probably be cheaper than a new Tikka. I would be too sick with worry to not include a range finder.
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Zeiss scopes are amongst THE schittiest,for steering bullets.
Bullets matter more than headstamps.
Hint.....................
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Just a thought. "Karamojo Bell" ( Walter Dalrymple Maitland ) in the years just prior to & just after 1900.. Using a 6.5x54 MS with a 160gr RN bullet at barley 2250 fps took elephant & over 400 head of every size of African plains game. Averaging 1 1/2 shots per animal. That means a significant amount of the game was taken with one shot. Open sights , no scope. He knew his rifle & how to shoot it. This was before the 30-06 ( 1906 ) was around. Just a thought.
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No money for tweaks means it has to shoot out of the box. This eliminates quite a few players.
No rangefinder eliminates long range hunting for me. No more than 450 yards, and that only in perfect conditions.
A budget of $400 isn’t much for a good scope. I’d much rather reverse your order and go $700 for glass.
But, playing along:
Browning X-Bolt Stalker in 6.5 Creedmoor
Used Zeiss Conquest of some sort in Talley LWs
Barnes Vor-TX 127gr LRX
I’d also consider the Tikka and a mid-range Leupold if everything has to be new.
I also really like the Nosler 142gr ABLR an awful lot but the lack of a rangefinder negates a lot of what I like about it. Plus, bison (!!!!!) calls for the deepest penetration and Barnes is unmatched.
What could be a sadder way to end a life than to die having never hunted with great dogs, good friends and your family?
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Back to the original question, I could be quite happy with a lite stainless Tikka T3 30-06 with and SWFA MIL/MIL fixed 10X in Talleys shooting whatever 165 or 180 premium bullet it preferred.
30/06 yep Tikka stainless lite yep 6x SWFA sportsmatch mounts Good factory ammo Leica range finder The world is your oyster and 500 suddenly seems close Same pick for me.. nothing a good shooter couldn’t handle. It’d be a tossup between the 6 and 3x9.. 6 if I’m too close on the money budget.
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No money for tweaks means it has to shoot out of the box. This eliminates quite a few players.
Not all tweaks require money or a gunsmith. Even re-bedding.
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