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Can you put the best cheap >working Mans bullet the speer 275g into BIGBORE?
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MMM>> Do you think a 275g 338 should be thought of having stopping power as a 416 rem mag?
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The 338 has been brought down to just another hunting rifle! It use to have heavy metal!!! 275g>and even 300g bullets but the talking heads on the rags >>spill their vommit>>> saying well bullets are better and just shoot a 225g or 200g or even a 185g in your 338!>>MMMM Then why even buy a 338 >> get a 270 and the bullets are better so that should bring it up to a 338 times are strange!
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That’s the bullet I use in my 338/06. It’s quite a hammer on elk. I hope I have enough for the rest of my life. Got several hundred old Speer solids, may drill a hole and test on water jugs against my precious supply of 275 grain softs.
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Have they taken out the Masculinity out of the 338? I see the 375 H&H and all the 375 hold to the 300g bullet as the best and bigger is better but with the 338, they are always pushing the lighter bullet!! Why?
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MMM>> Do you think a 275g 338 should be thought of having stopping power as a 416 rem mag? No.
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I was lucky to see the writing on the wall and bought for the rest of my life time , the speer 275 bullet is long beautiful bullet hits very hard and a tack driver!! should I say it again a tack driver! And Cheap!! you go try buy a 338 275 bullet today !!! you better have a thick wallet!! Speer had a real winner and why they dropped it was a big mistake!! O Ya smaller is better for the 338 as the rags say.
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I think the 338 is a poor mans 375 H&H but a 416 ,you shoot a 400ger Rigby, Rem and Weth are in a class of their own !
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It was dropped because not enough handloaders bought it.
Given a choice between a 275 grain Speer and a 275 grain Swift A-Frame,I would buy the SAF.
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Good for you but I have a lot of speer and they do the job and was and is the best bang for the BUCK {WAS} Dirt cheap, 50>$25.00.
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And a can of imr 4350 was $12.00!! MMM >>>I should go down and see if I still have a can !! I wonder if its still good! Enjoy and Im not that old!! just started Young
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thats a common problem.... you find a great combo of bullet and powder and either the bullet or powder is discontinued I found an amazingly accurate load in my 257 roberts BLR using RL12 (now discontinued) Ive had similar issues with the 190 grain hornady in the 300 wby(now discontinued) 405 grain rem in the 450 marlin(now discontinued) 300 grain rn hornady in a 375 H&H (now discontinued)
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thats a common problem.... you find a great combo of bullet and powder and either the bullet or powder is discontinued I found an amazingly accurate load in my 257 roberts BLR using RL12 (now discontinued) Ive had similar issues with the 190 grain hornady in the 300 wby(now discontinued) 405 grain rem in the 450 marlin(now discontinued) 300 grain rn hornady in a 375 H&H (now discontinued) Have you tried the 400 grain Speer in the .450 Marlin?
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I like them for plinking and varmint hunting in my .458 Uber (aka .460 Wby.)
They would be the cat's meow in your .450 Marlin.
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It seems the 338 has gone cold when the rags told shoot lighter bullets and its better! The Rags Killed The 338! Enjoy
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That was Elmer Keith's favorite bullet for the 338 win mag and the 338-378 KT.It has a good bc so it's a long range hard hitter . He used it on elk ,pronghorn and deer .I.am going to use some swaged down to .333 for my .333okh rifle that will hit hard too . I wish Speer would make them again !
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I'm a heavy bullet fan. I use 250 grain Partitions in my 338's. They shoot so well, I have not tried much else. I have a 7 point bull elk's antlers in my gun room. That bull was shot lengthwise with those 250 grain Partitions, no second shot was needed. I've read where other bullets work as well. But I do not know that from experience.
The Speer bullets in other calibers always hold together well for me. If I had access to 275 grain Speer bullets, I'm confident that they would do well for anything on this half the world. I'd bet they would work well on Cape Buffalo, but I wouldn't give odds.
I'd like to see how those 275's perform in a stack of tightly bound dry newspaper.
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Bugger, nice to know about the 338 cal 250gr partitions, just worked up loads for two 338 wm's with those, have always mostly shot 250gr SAF's, also have a couple boxes of 275gr SAF's, those at 2600+ should be hell on moose and one of Phil's Big Bears.
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Give me address>>PO Box and you might find a few ! I'd like to see how those 275's perform in a stack of tightly bound dry newspaper.
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John Haviland just did a write-up in a "rag" on the .338 WM
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Why would anyone want a 275 or 300 grain in the 338 Win? We have lighter premium bullets that will shoot with more velocity and flatte4 trajectory that give all the pentration that on3 could possibly want.
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Hello jwp475, So are you saying that a 220 swift, 17 Rem. 204 Ruger. Would all make great bear guns because higher velocity equals more penetration? Oh Boy
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Why would anyone want a 275 or 300 grain in the 338 Win? We have lighter premium bullets that will shoot with more velocity and flatte4 trajectory that give all the pentration that on3 could possibly want.
I don't know but I got a chance to buy some 275 gr Semi spitzer Speers for $10 /box " Hell ,I just wanna go there " No disrespect intended jwp, just sometimes in life you just need to experience things from a different era so you can really understand what they experienced. MB
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Why would anyone want a 275 or 300 grain in the 338 Win? We have lighter premium bullets that will shoot with more velocity and flatte4 trajectory that give all the pentration that on3 could possibly want.
I don't know but I got a chance to buy some 275 gr Semi spitzer Speers for $10 /box " Hell ,I just wanna go there " No disrespect intended jwp, just sometimes in life you just need to experience things from a different era so you can really understand what they experienced. MB Indeed
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I don't know about 275 grain bullets or much about elk but I can tell you in the 338 WM the 250 partition is tough on Moose. It's my favorite load.
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I don't know about 275 grain bullets or much about elk but I can tell you in the 338 WM the 250 partition is tough on Moose. It's my favorite load. I've used the 250 Partition on several mouse and it did work well. I never got an exit with one even on broad side shot. A 225 or 210 TSX will shoot flatter and exit. Just my experience.
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I don't know about 275 grain bullets or much about elk but I can tell you in the 338 WM the 250 partition is tough on Moose. It's my favorite load. I've used the 250 Partition on several mouse and it did work well. I never got an exit with one even on broad side shot. A 225 or 210 TSX will shoot flatter and exit. Just my experience. Not worried so much about exits, as long as we have a dead animal. Spent bullets don't need to weigh almost the same as new bullets to be a good bullet. Just some loose change. You know, my two cents. Have a good day.
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