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Soon, I am going to need warmer boots than I currently have. One option I'm considering is the NEOS Navigator. They fit over your current boots, are insulated and have a gaiter like attachment.

https://www.overshoesneos.com/Overshoe_Neos_%20Navigator_5.html

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with these? Thanks in advance.

Plan B would be to spring for some pac boots.

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I've never had any luck at all with over boots when moving, but maybe I'm the only one.

I would get yourself some Mickey Mouse boots. (Link) Make sure you have socks that will go up to/over the calf (or at least above the boot top).

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Pointer, are they for stationary sitting as in a really cold deer stand?


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I like to use them not as overshoes but with sorel felt liners and some good insoles. Feel like mukluks but not as breathable, but they’re waterproof. Give and take ...

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They work well

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Originally Posted by Brad
Pointer, are they for stationary sitting as in a really cold deer stand?
Eventually that would be a use for them. More pressing would be their use helping a pard with a bison tag in Alaska next month. Some of the cold in that country is a level that I've not got a whole lot of experience with and I'm not sure how much hiking will be involved and in what type of terrain.

Thanks everyone for the info.

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I'm going to change my recommendation to the white Bunny Boots then smile

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cwh2- How are the bunny boots for walking? They don't look the most comfortable and slickery...

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Originally Posted by pointer
cwh2- How are the bunny boots for walking? They don't look the most comfortable and slickery...


Personally, I think Bunny Boots suck. I've never found them as warm as a good "system" approach, and I'd take a well insulated Pack Boot any day (insulated lower with slip out insulated liner).

Or better yet, a heavily insulated boot with an overboot like the NEOS. I use an insulated "Super Gaiter" with rubber rand that leaves only the boots sole exposed. I have no experience with a full "overboot" like the NEOS.

Exposed Sole "Super Gaiter:

https://www.mtntools.com/cat/techwear/Gaiters/mountaintoolssupergaiters.htm

Overboot:

https://www.40below.com/products_results.php?Search=1&ProductCategoryID[]=1



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cwh2- How are the bunny boots for walking? They don't look the most comfortable and slickery...


Personally, I think Bunny Boots suck. I've never found them as warm as a good "system" approach, and I'd take a well insulated Pack Boot any day (insulated lower with slip out insulated liner).

Or better yet, a heavily insulated boot with an overboot like the NEOS. I use an insulated "Super Gaiter" with rubber rand that leaves only the boots sole exposed. I have no experience with a full "overboot" like the NEOS.

Exposed Sole "Super Gaiter:

https://www.mtntools.com/cat/techwear/Gaiters/mountaintoolssupergaiters.htm

Overboot:

https://www.40below.com/products_results.php?Search=1&ProductCategoryID[]=1

Not sure I need another option to mull over... wink That does look interesting and I could see that working, thanks for the idea. Now if I have some insulated boots to go with them...

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Originally Posted by Brad

Personally, I think Bunny Boots suck.



I kind of agree, especially if lots of walking is on the agenda. I think pack boots suck too though.

Those super gaiters look really interesting!

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This probably doesn't help you, and they're $750, but the La Sportiva Spantik is BY FAR the most comfortable double boot I have worn. It ain't for walking per se, but I see sheep guys wearing Koflach's and such, and I know how much worse those are to my foot than the Spantik. Maybe it's just my foot. The super gaiters look interesting to me as well...

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The 40 Below are the cats ass! If you want warmth it is the way to go.


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I use Neos all the time, usually while I am coaching cross country ski races. They allow for almost any shoe or boot to slip inside and instantly keep your feet warm and dry as if it were 30-40 degrees warmer. They are ideal if you go from being very active and warm in your regular footwear to not for a while or vice versa. I met a guy who trekked across Greenland in a pair with running shoes inside.

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
The 40 Below are the cats ass! If you want warmth it is the way to go.



that's what I use snowshoeing and backcountry skiing (Altai Hoks)- sometimes with just trail runners, sometimes with my hunting boots (La Sportiva TRK's)

they are also nice around a snowy/cold camp- just slip them on over socks when nature calls smile

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Originally Posted by akmtnrunner
I use Neos all the time, usually while I am coaching cross country ski races. They allow for almost any shoe or boot to slip inside and instantly keep your feet warm and dry as if it were 30-40 degrees warmer. They are ideal if you go from being very active and warm in your regular footwear to not for a while or vice versa. I met a guy who trekked across Greenland in a pair with running shoes inside.
Thanks for that! All I currently have are uninsulated boots, which is why I find the NEOS intriguing. Just not sure how well they would be to walk very far in. Then again, if I'm walking very hard I've not had a trouble keeping warm as I tend to run pretty hot. I could also see them being useful for stand hunting whitetails. Just walk in with lighter boots and put these on once on location. I really do get mental vapor lock over this stuff...

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
The 40 Below are the cats ass! If you want warmth it is the way to go.



that's what I use snowshoeing and backcountry skiing (Altai Hoks)- sometimes with just trail runners, sometimes with my hunting boots (La Sportiva TRK's)

they are also nice around a snowy/cold camp- just slip them on over socks when nature calls smile

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Thoughts on using them without snowshoes or skis? From the pics I've seen of them, they don't look to have much of a sole on them.

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Damn dude! Who got lucky and pulled that tag?

Looking forward to hearing about this hunt.



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they’d be fine for glassing duties, but definitely not made for hiking any distance, it’s possible they could be altered to expose the soles of your boots- they may even make a model specifically for that????!

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Originally Posted by mtwarden
they’d be fine for glassing duties, but definitely not made for hiking any distance, it’s possible they could be altered to expose the soles of your boots- they may even make a model specifically for that????!
That was my thought in looking at them. The Supergaiter Brad linked above exposes the sole of your boot.

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Damn dude! Who got lucky and pulled that tag?

Looking forward to hearing about this hunt.

BOY did...

The only thing I'm worried about you hearing is my b!tching about how cold it is. laugh

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