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I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of these on order ASAP. Just have to figure out which cartridge. Leaning towards 7mm-08 or 6.5 PRC. I just got an X3 .300 WSM and Mesa 6.5 CM.

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Well, they got rid of the crazy long barrel shank, anyhow. Being a new model with the new ownership, I wonder if it will have the kinks worked out that plagued the previous models. Hopefully.


Pretty lousy cartridge selection though. Hopefully that will expand.

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They do state you can get non standard chamberings. I'm not worried about any problems. Based on my experience I doubt their rate of issues was significantly different than most others. They were, however, doing a terrible jobcorrecting them when the arose. New leadership already seems to be improving this.

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The thing is- "Non standard" chamberings are an upgrade. So, from the X3, you already have to pay $100 more to upgrade to a lighter gun. Then if you don't want one of the few chamberings, you have to pay a upgrade fee, because it is "non standard". Why don't they just offer the same list of cartridges, on a build to order basis, like the X3? Or is this going to be an on the shelf rifle at dealers, more so than the X3?

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You're probably right, but you're making some assumptions. I have no clue if there is an up charge (probably is) for a non standard clamberings or if it just means a longer lead time. Also, at this point I doubt anyone knows what the real world price on these is. That said, most companies offer a pretty limited selection of chamberings and that's what you're stuck with. At least with this you have options. I'm ok with paying to get what I want.

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First Montana Rifle Co. offering that has peaked my interest in a long time. I wonder what street price will be.


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I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

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The Cooper backcountry is now in LH. A 280 AI is currently on Gunbroker.

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Cheaper and lighter than a LH Ridgeline... Limited standard cartridge selection, tho they offer the two I would be interested in (270, 6.5CM). One custom project to wrap up. Then, we'll see what the early adopters have to say after the SHOT Show... smile

EDIT: Noticed that the new MRC website also lists what appear to be fairly realistic weights for the entire product line...

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When do they expect to hit the street with this?

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I called my dealer today. He said that he'll try to get in touch with them, but he thinks that there's basically nobody there right now with all the shows going on. I asked him to get me a price on 6.5 PRC and 7mm-08.

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I noticed that if you click on "view spec sheet" you can get a PDF of the rifle specs. It says MSRP is $1975 there vs. $1699 on the site.

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Originally Posted by Wrongside
First Montana Rifle Co. offering that has peaked my interest in a long time. I wonder what street price will be.

Agreed. Good looking rifle. Chamberings seem okay for 5lb.+ lightweight offerings... the 6.5 barrel length could be 22" rather than 24"..so could the other SAs....

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Originally Posted by Wrongside
First Montana Rifle Co. offering that has peaked my interest in a long time. I wonder what street price will be.

Agreed. Good looking rifle. Chamberings seem okay for 5lb.+ lightweight offerings... the 6.5 barrel length could be 22" rather than 24"..so could the other SAs....


Yessir. That was the biggest negative I noticed. 22" would've been better. It looks like the flutes run too far for a guy to cut and crown.
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I noticed that if you click on "view spec sheet" you can get a PDF of the rifle specs. It says MSRP is $1975 there vs. $1699 on the site.

Saw that. Hopefully the higher price is a mistake. Even at $1699.00 they're fighting a uphill battle, IMO. Lots of other well established, lighter rifles to choose from... If a guy's not a leftie.


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Two thoughts on the 24" barrels. First, not everyone who buys rifles is 24HCF edumacated about short barrels. Second, there are still some old pharts around that are O.K. with a 24" tube to give a rifle a little more weight forward balance. The 24" barrel on the 6.5 CM was actually one of the attractions for me.



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I don't understand how the pricing doesn't align. You'd think they'd have a process in place to verify that, especially on a new flagship rifle.

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Plenty of errors on the site. On the one page, they list the weight of the X3 the same as the XAR. I'd bet the $1995 is reality.

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Originally Posted by KenMi
Plenty of errors on the site. On the one page, they list the weight of the X3 the same as the XAR. I'd bet the $1995 is reality.


I noticed that too, but when you click on the X3 they have accurate weights. Someone needs to have a talk with their web designer.

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First Montana Rifle Co. offering that has peaked my interest in a long time. I wonder what street price will be.

Agreed. Good looking rifle. Chamberings seem okay for 5lb.+ lightweight offerings... the 6.5 barrel length could be 22" rather than 24"..so could the other SAs....


Yessir. That was the biggest negative I noticed. 22" would've been better. It looks like the flutes run too far for a guy to cut and crown.


Yep... was thinking the same thing about the fluting. A guy might be able to cut one inch off and recrown, but probably not enough to make much of a weight difference anyway.

The Kimber Adirondacks are getting away with 18" barrels, compare that to a 24" tube, probably knocking off 3-4 oz of steel weight.

A sorted 'superlight' needs those tweeks.

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Originally Posted by Orion2000
.... O.K. with a 24" tube to give a rifle a little more weight forward balance. The 24" barrel on the 6.5 CM was actually one of the attractions for me.

Balance? We don't need no stinkin' balance! laugh

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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Two thoughts on the 24" barrels. First, not everyone who buys rifles is 24HCF edumacated about short barrels. Second, there are still some old pharts around that are O.K. with a 24" tube to give a rifle a little more weight forward balance. The 24" barrel on the 6.5 CM was actually one of the attractions for me.

Yah, they are obviously never going to please everyone. I'd be fine with a 24", it definitely wouldn't be a deal breaker, if I liked everything else on the spec sheet.

But I prefer 22" these days. Even if all they did was end the flutes a bit further back, a cut and crown isn't a big deal.


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I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

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