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#13439007 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Shinbone,

Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it .


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#13439011 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Oldelkhunter - That big of a gap between the objective and the barrel does look a little ridiculous.

Also, not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours?

#13439022 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Originally Posted by shinbone
Oldelkhunter - Not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours?


I will have owned it for 2 weeks this saturday. It appears to be very well made, if it was shot before it was sparingly. I have to scope it and take it to the range to see what I purchased.


#13439042 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Love my Z5 with the BRH. Give reticles a bit more thought.

#13439063 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: BradArnett]  
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Originally Posted by BradArnett
Lots of feelings being tossed around here ... Schott glass doesnt always impress me....even my coffee pot has schott glass.



http://imgur.com/uZJo0jq


Good stuff man! That is sig line worthy.

To the OP - those kahles cl’s are outstanding scopes. Please pm me if you decide you want to sell or trade them.

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#13439083 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: AKwolverine]  
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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
To the OP - those kahles cl’s are outstanding scopes. Please pm me if you decide you want to sell or trade them.


The Kahles CL scopes are indeed outstanding. When I bought them a dozen years ago at half price, I told myself these scopes would last the rest of my life. I knew about laser rangefinders and dialable scopes, but never thought that stuff would appeal to me. People change, including old ossified dudes, like me, I guess.

I will be hanging onto the Kahles scopes for the foreseeable future. I know Kahles offers more features, nowadays, but no way could I afford the more modern Kahles scopes.

#13439087 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: Oldelkhunter]  
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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by shinbone
Oldelkhunter - Not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours?


I will have owned it for 2 weeks this saturday. It appears to be very well made, if it was shot before it was sparingly. I have to scope it and take it to the range to see what I purchased.


Please keep us updated on how she shoots. When they shoot good, it is hard to beat a Kimber Montana.

#13439272 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: Jordan Smith]  
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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by jwp475

Not a 4X16, rather a 3X15 the price is under 800 and you won’t find a better scope fir 2000


https://www.tractoptics.com/products/riflescopes

jwp,

That’s a strong statement, and I suppose we’d need to define “better”. I’m neither anti-Tract, nor a Tract fanboy, so I approach the brand more inquisitively than anything. In my opinion “better” means mechanical function and reliability first and foremost, with optical performance rating somewhere in the Top 5 of important attributes. I think it has been established here on 24HCF that the Toric has superb glass for the price. What remains a question mark in my mind is the mechanical function, robustness, and durability of the scope. Buying one and testing it thoroughly would help, but still would only speak to (1) sample of one model of Toric. I’m not even sure if they ship to Canada grin I know of a couple guys on here that have a sizeable round count, hard use, and a lot of dialing on their Toric, but again, the sample size of those reports remains too small to make any generalized determination about the scope lineup.

How much dialing, carrying time/rough use, and what approximate round count do you have on your scope? What rifle is it mounted on? Thanks for the additional info.



Everything that I’ve experienced with my 3X15X50 Toric has been positive. I bought mine in 2018 mounted it and zeroed it in. Adjustments were precise and accurate and the glass is abosolutely outstanding. I have seen nothing to negative about the scope. No I don’t have an endurance test to prove it but I’d not hesitate to buy another one. It worked perfectly for me this hunting season.




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#13439407 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: Oldelkhunter]  
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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Shinbone,

Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it .



The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high!

[Linked Image]

#13439443 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: AlaskaCub]  
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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high!

[Linked Image]


That's true and a good point, but . . . I am a big guy with a long neck. I mount the scope farther forward than what is shown in this photo to keep it out of my eyebrow, necessitating the higher mount so the ocular will clear the scope base.

Bravo

#13439515 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Originally Posted by shinbone
Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high!

[Linked Image]


That's true and a good point, but . . . I am a big guy with a long neck. I mount the scope farther forward than what is shown in this photo to keep it out of my eyebrow, necessitating the higher mount so the ocular will clear the scope base.


oh ok, that explains it .


#13439519 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: AlaskaCub]  
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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Shinbone,

Thanks for posting a picture of the Zeiss V4 mounted on your rifle, you probably saved me money since I planned on using that same scope on a M70 300 Win mag and I don't like having a scope bell that far up from the barrel. I have a Kimber montana 270WSM and I guess I put a NF SHV 3-10x42 on it .



The V4 doesn’t have to be mounted that high!

[Linked Image]


Thanks for that pic, what height talleys?


#13439540 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Lows on a 84M

#13439542 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Nightforce SHV c584 . That’s too easy....


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#13439552 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: alwaysoutdoors]  
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NightForce SHV 4-14x56 ForcePlex reticle LNIB for $835 shipped in the classifieds. I couldn’t resist. 😎


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#13439615 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Originally Posted by shinbone
Oldelkhunter - That big of a gap between the objective and the barrel does look a little ridiculous.

Also, not to hijack my own thread, but . . . I've been lusting after a Kimber Montana in 270WSM. How are you liking yours?



Just a little? How about way ridiculous. There's absolutely no need to mount that scope that damn high. I don't care who you are, unless you like a chin weld on the stock or shooting from the hip. I'd pull that one piece picatinny off and throw a set of Talley lightweights on that EW. Do that rifle some justice man. The lows would work so much better and save you some weight in the process too.. Just sayin..


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#13439628 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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What’s a chin weld? Is that a shot at people who have chinitus?


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#13439830 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: alwaysoutdoors]  
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Double chin or turkey neck will get you there...😎


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#13440191 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: AlaskaCub]  
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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
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Thank You . Perfect fit better then I expected with that scope and rifle combo.


#13440363 - 01/10/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: R_H_Clark]  
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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by Canazes9
1st, you probably won't want all of your rifles set up to dial. You've spent your entire hunting career without doing this, you don't need to convert everything in one season. You need to work on getting one rifle set up properly and getting some significant trigger time. Worry about the rest later.

2nd, your dislike for reticles other than the traditional duplex has got you prejudiced against a good mil/moa reticle before you even start. Go try and make some wind calls w/ your duplex and see if your opinion changes (it might not, but you don't know yet).

If you are bound and determined to spend some money on a scope, buy a SWFA SS 10x mil/mil for $300. Mount it on a rifle and compare shooting at range w/ your Zeiss. That will give you a MUCH better idea what you really want/need. The optics on the SWFA probably aren't what u want, but it will track/hold zero/RTZ and you can experience a mil reticle witha scope that will track accurately. If you decide you have no use for the SWFA after shooting for a while you should be able to unload it for no more than $100 loss, a cheap education.

David



David,the only reason I suggested the 6x over the 10X is that I figured that if he could see that he could hit stuff without the higher magnification,then the 6X would be a better hunting scope. I do think the 10X would make a better target scope,if only learning longer range shooting.

Just my thoughts for the OP.


I really like my 6x, but I do not believe that he would be disappointed with the 10x. It has better long-range capabilities and has served me well at pretty close range. Either is fantastic, but 10x is not too much for hunting. I have two on rifles, with one sitting in the box and I am trying to decide if I want to change it out and sell the 6. No bad choice there. Then, there is my Athlon MIdas Tac. I dialed it up this afternoon and smucked a late-season doe antelope at 400.

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#13442004 - 01/11/19 Re: Recommend me a scope: 4-16x50ish under 1000$ for hunting [Re: shinbone]  
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Leupold VX-5 3-15. I had nearly the same requirement as the OP and after reading, shopping and looking - the Leupold came home with me. I bought the Firedot Duplex ZL-2 model. I can dial or just zero 2" high at 200 yards and be pretty comfortable in the areas and for the game I hunt each fall.


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