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Trigger pull must be off the charts to incorporate a two-finger trigger. Seems 22WMR revolvers already have notoriously heavy DA triggers for positive ignition. I guess to set off two rounds, it needs even more .
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Just a revolving derringer.
Not THAT crazy of an idea. ....flave, do you really think that firing two rounds simultaneously is a good idea? I know it's a bad idea in a shotgun with two triggers. Can't say I've ever tried it in a revolver. If one is going to carry a 22WMR for close range self defense 2 hits at once beats the pants of of 1 at a time.
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Ejector rod looks like 1/4" or so.
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Shoot somebody in the face with 8 rounds of .22 mag and they'll probably leave you alone.
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That thing is one fugly mofo.
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That thing is one fugly mofo. This. WTF were they thinking/smoking?
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Shoot somebody in the face with 8 rounds of .22 mag and they'll probably leave you alone. I'd carry a S&W 351PD, or LCR, not that hot mess.
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I've always racked up some of these ideas as business decisions. They know their not gonna sell. But they can write a lot of the costs off.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Can it shoot one at a time also?
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Can it shoot one at a time also? For sure if you load only half the cylinders.
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How about that 'rhino horn' underside, forward of the trigger.
WTF is that all about? Looks like it would hook on a pocket during presentation.
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Well it sure is different, and interesting; I'll give it that.
To me, though it doesn't make much sense (except maybe given the limited power of .22 WMR) to put 2 bullets in the same spot. Essentially gives you 4 mediocre wound tracks.
.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.
A compact 5 shot DA revolver in .327, 38 Spl, or .357 makes a lot more sense to me.
If just being different was the goal, and I suspect it was; a 4 barrel break open in one of the above would be kind of cool and make more sense.
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another butt azzed stupid product, but I'm sure someone will manage to shoot themselves with it.
Sam......
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The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.
This revolver has 1.25" barrels.
I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil.
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.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.
The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.
This revolver has 1.25" barrels.
I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil. I checked my chrono data on the .22 WMR Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel and got 10 shot averages of 983 fps out of a 1 inch NAA Pug and 1066 fps out of a 1-1/8" NAA mini convertible, with a 100 and 105 fps extreme spread, respectively. By contrast, .22 LR CCI Mini-Mag HP got an average of 857 fps out of the mini convertible, with a 99 fps extreme spread.
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That's a good data point on the 1 1/8" min convertible.
The WMR picks up 200+ fps. I'd call that a significant gain in velocity over the 22LR.
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.22 Mag, is really a rifle round. Hardly any difference over a LR coming out of that short a barrel.
The 1 7/8" 22WMR revolvers seem to be able to muster about 1100 fps with the 40 gr bullet. It's a small bullet, but velocity isn't bad, compared to some of the mouse guns.
This revolver has 1.25" barrels.
I always believed the biggest draw to the 22WMR defensive handgun was the low recoil, for those who cannot deal with it for various reasons. So firing two rounds at once, just doubled the recoil. I checked my chrono data on the .22 WMR Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel and got 10 shot averages of 983 fps out of a 1 inch NAA Pug and 1066 fps out of a 1-1/8" NAA mini convertible, with a 100 and 105 fps extreme spread, respectively. By contrast, .22 LR CCI Mini-Mag HP got an average of 857 fps out of the mini convertible, with a 99 fps extreme spread. Those are huge extreme spreads.... I believe there are a couple .22 LR rounds that do a little better than that out of a short barrel, to more evenly compare. But the 22 mag is still a rifle round, considering the velocity. For a significant real world gain, a 38 Spl is carrying about 3.5 times the momentum.
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Well I got to handle one of these at the Beinfeld Antique Arms show in Las Vegas yesterday-----it's as underwhelming in person as it is in digital print. The irony is that it was at a side table next to their $20,000 sidekick shotguns and even more expensive Model 21's and Foxes. It's perplexing.
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I thought a full auto firearm is one that discharges more than one round with a single trigger pull. So Would this be one of those semi-full auto guns that gun grabbers talk about?
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