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Originally Posted by bludog
There could be a physical reason - look up dry vagina - happens around that age. Sex becomes excruciating for the woman.


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Originally Posted by bludog
There could be a physical reason - look up dry vagina - happens around that age. Sex becomes excruciating for the woman.



Yeah, but also look up KY Jelly. It's an easy fix.


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. . . or what Mathman found.

Personally, prefer Marmite over that Kentucky Jelly stuff. It tastes better on toast, don't ya know.


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A&F.....I respect and admire the true dedication you have to your wife inspite of the medical and psychological problems she suffers from. Till death do us part, in sickness and in health....those are the vows I took before God and my family and I will stick to those vows until I draw my last breath.

9 days is pushing it in my world but 9 years...no fugging way.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
A&F.....I respect and admire the true dedication you have to your wife inspite of the medical and psychological problems she suffers from. Till death do us part, in sickness and in health....those are the vows I took before God and my family and I will stick to those vows until I draw my last breath.

9 days is pushing it in my world but 9 years...no fugging way.



11 years in my case. "Till death do us part" may not be so far in the future for us. Either her due to her COPD and such, or me with a heart attack since I am under incredible stress doing this and being a corrections officer. Either way, "Till death do us part" was my vow and I will stand by it. That includes being faithful regardless. I set my mind to it, that is the way it will be. Though I have been tempted to wander, and have had the opportunity, I didn't and won't.


But I have to admit that in those three instant opportunities I often wish I did. I'm glad I didn't because I know what guilt does to me. And no, I can't justify my actions based on her. My actions are my actions and I am responsible 100% for them. No diverting blame.


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
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A&F.....I respect and admire the true dedication you have to your wife inspite of the medical and psychological problems she suffers from. Till death do us part, in sickness and in health....those are the vows I took before God and my family and I will stick to those vows until I draw my last breath.

9 days is pushing it in my world but 9 years...no fugging way.



11 years in my case. "Till death do us part" may not be so far in the future for us. Either her due to her COPD and such, or me with a heart attack since I am under incredible stress doing this and being a corrections officer. Either way, "Till death do us part" was my vow and I will stand by it. That includes being faithful regardless. I set my mind to it, that is the way it will be. Though I have been tempted to wander, and have had the opportunity, I didn't and won't.


But I have to admit that in those three instant opportunities I often wish I did. I'm glad I didn't because I know what guilt does to me. And no, I can't justify my actions based on her. My actions are my actions and I am responsible 100% for them. No diverting blame.


You are a good man.

I wonder if the SIL doesn't claim to be too tired because she now works?

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She now works 6 hours 4 days a week. Runs a cash register at Walmart. Butch works for a company that lays big pipe projects. He runs equipment and drives.

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Okay, one question here, what of BIL is a one pump chump? Did he hold up his end to her or is it all about him? Just saying, it's a two way street.


Well, Butch lost his job back then and it seems the time line's converge. Linda had to go to work, which she still does. Butch did find another job but not making the kind of money he did before. I'm thinking like an $8,000 year cut. But he works every day and overtime when it's available.


I think hes saying if your bil is a bit premature and doesnt put the grease where the squeek is to her satisfaction, then she ix justified in chopping off his action.

That excuse is, of course, as old as the world. wink
Example: you dont ring my bell like you used to, so its our new neigbbor who i will screw.

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Okay, one question here, what of BIL is a one pump chump? Did he hold up his end to her or is it all about him? Just saying, it's a two way street.


Well, Butch lost his job back then and it seems the time line's converge. Linda had to go to work, which she still does. Butch did find another job but not making the kind of money he did before. I'm thinking like an $8,000 year cut. But he works every day and overtime when it's available.


Wow, there could be all kinds of mental stuff going on with both of them. Her throwing out a slapper like that in front of family indicates a lot of tension built up there. Hope they work it out.


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Okay, one question here, what of BIL is a one pump chump? Did he hold up his end to her or is it all about him? Just saying, it's a two way street.


Well, Butch lost his job back then and it seems the time line's converge. Linda had to go to work, which she still does. Butch did find another job but not making the kind of money he did before. I'm thinking like an $8,000 year cut. But he works every day and overtime when it's available.


Wow, there could be all kinds of mental stuff going on with both of them. Her throwing out a slapper like that in front of family indicates a lot of tension built up there. Hope they work it out.


Mental illness of one form or other is rampant in North America.

Most of the females on my wife's side are on antidepressant medications of one form or other, but there was sexual abuse by an uncle that touched most of them. They don't forget and don't handle it well.

A couple of years ago, I was very close to slipping into depression, dealing with nerve pain, swelling joints and not being able to what I wanted to do with my family. It seemed a high percentage of my days and nights, especially when i wasnt working, i was in pain for hours at a time. Didnt matter what i did. I often spent my days off curled up in a ball on my bed as waves of pain swept over me . I thank God that i had enough sense to talk to my doctor.

The doc referred me to a pain management clinic where I had a nurse as my case worker. I saw a different physiotherapist who tried different techniques, a counsellor, a kinesiologist, a pharmacist who specialized in pain meds and a doctor who specializes in chronic pain. I gained a little something from each of them, and together I made changes that has helped the pain and helped avoid depression. Not everyday is great, but I've lived with this since 2005. I am blessed in my life.

Help is out there, we just have to admit we need help and seek it out.

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Originally Posted by Armednfree
Linda is a perfectly healthy 55 year old women. Her and butch have three children, all adults now.

My wife and I are in a similar situation. Except my wife is physically and mentally disabled. Hard for a woman that is in physical pain, can't breath and is riding a roller coaster between depression and mania to get much into sex. Humping off a piece without her being into it does not interest me.

Butch lives in involuntary celibacy ( I don't know if he's getting any strange) I do not. In my case I have assumed the role of caregiver and even father with my wife. Of course my wife has put on 85 pounds since she got sick, all around her belly. Not very appealing to roll the fat up to get to it. Frankly, I love her and always will, but I don't desire her sexually anymore.

And yes, the why is important. Linda has no physical impairments and no mental one's I'm aware of. And she is not generally a bitch to Butch either. Outside this you would think they are a loving couple. I don't know, maybe that something people learn, to act a part.
I feel for you, prayers sent. It must be hard, seeing those two with outwardly anyway, nothing to prevent a good marriage and the wife blowing it (not in a good way) because she's essentially a chunt. You're a good man.

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What a stupid stupid biatch. He should dump HER

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Story in my familiy was that back in the day, Great Grandmother (who was obviously a much younger and sharp woman) was asked by the younger women in the family what the secret to a long and happy marriage was. She supposedly told them about husbands "Keep their stomachs full and their peters empty".

Must admit, simple formula that sounds effective. Who says men are demanding?


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My sister in law and her husband were over. They've been married 30 years. We are talking about that when she rears up and says, " I don't know if there will be any more! I caught him looking at porn on the computer. That's like cheating!"

So we go one talking for a few minutes and I said, " I don't mean to pry, but how long has it been since you and Butch had sex?" Butch spouts out "Nine years!" Then I said to Linda, " Linda, if that is true then it seems to me that you broke the marriage covenant nine years ago and he is just reacting to it."

She stormed off to the kitchen and my wife followed. I could hear some excited talk, then she said, " Butch, it's time to go." So butch gets up and shakes my hand to leave, Linda didn't even look at me.

Diana comes in a few minutes later a bit mad at me, " You didn't have to say that to her!" she says. I simply replied, " Just telling the truth sweetheart."


you did the absolute right thing.

I am a pastor. If that conversation had went down in a counseling session, I would have told her more or less the same thing.

In fact, I have said that same thing from the pulpit in a sermon on marital fidelity.
The Bible would even say that she has been in sin for the 9 years that she has refused sex with her husband.


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Well if Butch isn't planning on divorce,the best thing for him is to find a hot divorced woman that wants sex,but really not interested in a serious relationship and bang each others brains out and then go back home.There really are a few women out there like that,though hard to find,but they are.

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Originally Posted by Armednfree
She now works 6 hours 4 days a week. Runs a cash register at Walmart. Butch works for a company that lays big pipe projects. He runs equipment and drives.


At least Butch is laying pipe somewhere.

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Her’s was a simple, outright effort to embarrass the man in front of family. Ain’t no love there.


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