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Ok not new to pistol or revolver shooting. In my army days I qualified expert with the 1911 ( that was '71) I only like guns that will hit what I shoot at. That being said I plan to get a .380 small enough to fit a pocket holster. I would be pretty happy if I could keep my groups inside 4 or 5 inches at something like 10 yds. Considering the short site radius and my 67 year old eyes is that asking too much?

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The guns themselves are capable. This drill was shot with a standard Model Ruger LCP on a NRA B-8 Target at 10 yards. 7 rounds in 7 seconds from the Low Ready position.

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I had a Ruger LCP for awhile. I never put it on paper, but did a pretty good job of hitting a pop can at ~ 10 yards with it.

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I recently bought a Ruger LCP II. It shoots well when I do my part. I would buy another.

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Sig P238, I was surprised kept 24 of 26 rounds in the black of an NRA target at 25 yards. (about 6" group)

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The Sig P238 or a Kahr P380 will surprise you.


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Originally Posted by 270WSMANIC
Ok not new to pistol or revolver shooting. In my army days I qualified expert with the 1911 ( that was '71) I only like guns that will hit what I shoot at. That being said I plan to get a .380 small enough to fit a pocket holster. I would be pretty happy if I could keep my groups inside 4 or 5 inches at something like 10 yds. Considering the short site radius and my 67 year old eyes is that asking too much?


No.

Get an LCP.


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Bonus with P238 is that it is the first semi that the wife likes and can rack the slide.

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Depends if you like a metal pistol or plastic. Many 380's will do the job if you do yours.

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Originally Posted by 270WSMANIC
Ok not new to pistol or revolver shooting. In my army days I qualified expert with the 1911 ( that was '71) I only like guns that will hit what I shoot at. That being said I plan to get a .380 small enough to fit a pocket holster. I would be pretty happy if I could keep my groups inside 4 or 5 inches at something like 10 yds. Considering the short site radius and my 67 year old eyes is that asking too much?
hop on gunbroker and buy a used p 380

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A SIG P230 or P232 or possibly a Walther PPK would be your best option for an ALL STEEL 380 pistol.


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A Glock 42 can meet the OP’s accuracy requirements at longer distances and hides well in jeans in an Alabama Pocket Hoster or a Boraii Eagle holster. It might be considered too big a gun by some.


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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
A Glock 42 can meet the OP’s accuracy requirements at longer distances and hides well in jeans in an Alabama Pocket Hoster or a Boraii Eagle holster. It might be considered too big a gun by some.


My experience exactly matches this. My little G42 is dang near raged hole accurate at close defense ranges and dang if it don’t do well out to 20 yds or so with good ammo. Mine is great with the 90 gr. XTP factory load, my handloads with the same bullet (mild to wild) and the hot +P Underwood stuff too. Most accurate 380 I have ever fired. I think Glocks are fine but don’t typically get this kind of accuracy from them, but this 380 rocks. Out to 10yds, I would say its bad guy eye socket accurate!

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Originally Posted by Dans40X
A SIG P230 or P232 or possibly a Walther PPK would be your best option for an ALL STEEL 380 pistol.

A friend's son has a Bersa Thunder 380, which is a Walther PPK clone - I saw him shoot that pistol better
and more accurately than I have ever seen any one shoot a handgun.

Also, an older friend, didn't like his Ruger LCP. He found it very unpleasant to shoot and he had NO accuracy with it.

I recommended the more 'traditional' Bersa pistol as I had a Bersa 86 'Undercover' model (which preceded the 'Thunder' designation)
hoping to unload it on him. He didn't want mine - but we looked online at all the Bersa Thunder models at Bud's Guns
and he had an FFL dealer order one for him, that he chose.

He really likes his new Bersa pistol, its' low price, and he likes shooting it. Every time I see him he thanks me for steering him on to it.

I still have my NIB Bersa 86 Undercover 380 - I think it's a collectors item . . .

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fwb-9aYDa0

Here is a youtube video of Jerry Miculek hitting a steel target at 200 yards with a Bodyguard 380. Thus proving that the BG380 is an accurate pistol...but also proving that Jerry is an above
an expert pistol shooter possessing extraordinary talent

I would consider myself an above average pistol shooter with no comparison to his skills but yet still solid. I recently bought a BG380 and after cleaning it and lubing it took it out for a maiden shooting event. After a while I could hit a milk jug at 20 yards about 2-3 shots per mag or 6 rounds. The misses were by 2-3 feet due to the difficulty in controlling that long long trigger pull. More range time definitely needed.

The BG380 is accurate enough to meet your criteria innately but needs a lot of practice to hit stuff consistently. However I have found it more accurate and I can shoot it more accurately than the other "mouse" guns I have owned.

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My Ruger LCP 380 is amazingly accurate for a true pocket pistol. So was my Glock 42, but it’s a little big for my jean pockets. Works well in cargo shorts though.


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Originally Posted by 270WSMANIC
Ok not new to pistol or revolver shooting. In my army days I qualified expert with the 1911 ( that was '71) I only like guns that will hit what I shoot at. That being said I plan to get a .380 small enough to fit a pocket holster. I would be pretty happy if I could keep my groups inside 4 or 5 inches at something like 10 yds. Considering the short site radius and my 67 year old eyes is that asking too much?


No.

Get an LCP.


Agreed, I'm 65, have developing cataracts and can shoot my LCP that well. Little beast goes every where with me.


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I found the most shootable .380 to be the Kahr P380. A little larger than some but smaller than most of the others, it just has better sights, trigger pull and grip area. Fits in the pocket very nicely...

Used it to do my LEOSA qualification and shot a 28/28 and 27/28 at ranges out to 25 yards. Had the exact same scores with my G19...and I am 66...not very far behind you..

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Just takes practice. Even the great little Ruger LCP is more than up to that level of mechanical accuracy.

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The Glock 42 is easy to shoot well with vs an LCP, though, if that’s a high priority for you.

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