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Thats a nice looking rifle.
Try and try....read all the tips and tricks....but for the life of me I cant get a crescent butt to fit comfortable. I will try again.
On my Miroku 45-70 I shot it with a Galco leather slip on butt pad for a while.
Worked pretty well. Jerry sold me some carbine style furniture that I inletted and use that now.
I still use the Galco pad because it gets the LOP out there where it is better. These 1886's are an inch too short!
What were the 450 grain jacketed bullets you used? Does your rifle have a long throat?
And it aint going to fit ya Slim Jim, they don't fit me, I'm just 6'2" 250, you must be 6'5" 350, I put a leather lace on with a scored rubber pad in my 50-110, more to get the l.o.p. and the rifle out in front a bit more so I can get my face down and behind the sights, like CRShelton said, put the crescent butt on the ball of the shoulder muscle and squeeze it off, the men they built those rifles for back in the day had to be all of 5'9" and 140 lbs, they wont fit pork chop gravy hands like us.  BTW, hope that carbine wood is serving you well.
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Gunner500,
I agree with you on fitting the rifle to the shooter. And you are correct on size - I stand 5'10" and weigh 170 pounds(was 145 back in high school) and the 1886 fits fine. Larger or smaller folk may need to make changes in stock configuration and length.
The era and region of gun design can also influence the final design. For instance, my Parker shotguns are based on a pre 1900 design and for shooters living in the Northeast USA where bird hunting was a cool weather sport. Therefore the standard butt stock length fits me ONLY when I am wearing a winter coat under a padded shooting vest. In Texas dove season, I must use a slip- on pad to get proper stock length. A person with longer arms may have this problem in all seasons.
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Nice pick up.
I have a few rifles with crescent buttstocks and i don't like them. They look great and authentic but are so impractical. Apart from making the stock fragile they can really hurt if not shouldered precisely. My advice is to swap it out for a shotgun buttstock, similar to the one Winchester fitted to the Extra Light Model. It's far more comfortable and practical to use.
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Gunner500,
I agree with you on fitting the rifle to the shooter. And you are correct on size - I stand 5'10" and weigh 170 pounds(was 145 back in high school) and the 1886 fits fine. Larger or smaller folk may need to make changes in stock configuration and length.
The era and region of gun design can also influence the final design. For instance, my Parker shotguns are based on a pre 1900 design and for shooters living in the Northeast USA where bird hunting was a cool weather sport. Therefore the standard butt stock length fits me ONLY when I am wearing a winter coat under a padded shooting vest. In Texas dove season, I must use a slip- on pad to get proper stock length. A person with longer arms may have this problem in all seasons. Interesting and good to know about that Parker too, also glad to hear you've used your '86 on African game, have always thought about taking my Turnbull 50-110 WCF to Africa , it fires a hardcast 700 gr flat nosed grease groove bullet to 1240 fps with black powder, I think it'd take a hell of an animal to catch one of those, have the Smith ladder sight on it, hits to 200 yards have been pure cake.
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Gunner 500, Agreed on lethality of your 50-110! MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ANY ANIMAL THAT WALKS OR CRAWLS. It might even kill some whales! FYI, I have hunted RSA with Chris Troskie and he has hosted several Levergun Safaris in past years. Some of my friends from Leverguns.com have hunted with Chris also. Nice guy based in northern Limpopo Province who can put you on game. I will post link to his web site in a bit. http://www.ct-safaris.com/ It was one of Chris's DG PH that put me and my 1895 .405 on a Cape Buff a few years ago. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/51933_600x400.jpg)
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Got the rifle off of layaway just now.
Can I shoot a few 45-70 rounds through it?
Gonna take some extra cash to get brass and dies.
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In a pinch you could fire a 45/70 cartridge in a 45/90 chamber but it's the same situation as firing a 38 Special in a 357 mag. The risk you have is filling the front of the 45/90 chamber with debris from firing the shorter cases (especially cast loads). Fire enough of them and you may not be able to chamber a 45/90 cartridge until you clean the chamber out properly.
I'd recommend the Lyman die set as they include their M bullet expander die. If you cant source the dies you could buy cases and use 45/70 dies (suitably adjusted) to load up some ammo.
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Okay thanks.
I have the M dies for my 45-70. I like them.
I will get them for the 45-90.
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Congrats on your 45-90!.
Please post a picture when convenient.
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Above my 45-70. Big difference in weight. This 45-90 will make a fine hunting rifle. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/Kn5SaiM.jpg)
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Put on a receiver sight. This is a new rifle, is the dove tail for the rear sight a standard size? I would like to drift the sight out and drift in a blank. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/VNMD2sQ.jpg)
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Jim, Very nice rifle and you are likely to find it easier to carry than smaller folks. BTW, your boy may already be looking forward to the day that he can hunt with it. Before you put in a blank, please consider the benefits of the Marbles folding barrel sight, as backup for the receiver sight. This made much sense for my 1886 Bull barreled 45-90, but may not be for everyone. Here are a couple of pix: Tang peep down and barrel sight up: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/53432_600x400.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/53457_600x400.jpg) Sight down for use of tang peep: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/53456_600x400.jpg)
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Should be an adequate back for the 45j-70. Envious, even though I do have a backup.
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Gunner 500, Agreed on lethality of your 50-110! MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ANY ANIMAL THAT WALKS OR CRAWLS. It might even kill some whales! FYI, I have hunted RSA with Chris Troskie and he has hosted several Levergun Safaris in past years. Some of my friends from Leverguns.com have hunted with Chris also. Nice guy based in northern Limpopo Province who can put you on game. I will post link to his web site in a bit. http://www.ct-safaris.com/ It was one of Chris's DG PH that put me and my 1895 .405 on a Cape Buff a few years ago. Dang, don't know how I missed this one CRS, nice shooting and agreed, all these rifle with big chunks of lead at medium velocities are stone cold killers, going 8 or 9 feet deep into an 1800lb bedded Eland bull in Africa with a 50-90 Sharps rifle and 750gr bullet forever buried all doubt I may have had.
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Congrats Jim, cant wait for you to get that one going and give us some shooting and hunting reports.
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Congrats on pretty darn cool rifle. I want a Mag Na Ported one with a pistol grip stock and a Pachmayer Sporting Clays recoil pad. I know, I am a sissy, but a smart one!
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I remember reading a lot of stories about Alaska and the Yukon in the time period ranging from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, and the 45-90 was mentioned quite a lot. I'm guessing that's because it was considered as a good choice for the big bears. Glad to see it's still alive and kicking over a 100 years later.
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Very NICE Jim ! These 86's are great shooters I certainly enjoy my 45-90 even though my Marlin 70 is hoot as well.. The Sharps 45-110 will always be special for so many reasons but the '86 is my favorite all round big thumper ! ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/VLzS4z2D/IMG-3295-zpskbamjnex.jpg)
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