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Just wondering if you have seen these new rifles out or handled them.
20gr bullets coming out at 3000 fps.
I picked one up, pretty fun to shoot. Should work great on small varmints and a buddy of mine has used his to shoot 4 or 5 Bobcats this year.

I'd like one in a Ruger 77/17 or Tikka T1.

The B-mags suck....

Lack of quality rifles will be the death blow.

Second the B-mags suck. Got a 77/17 but not in love with it either. Hands down the only choice of the two. Wish there were more options as well.

Sounds like a fun little round.

I'm thinking the recoil may be a little stout for you though....

For about $1200, Winchester will sell you a dandy little falling block.

There is an article on the 17 WSM in the newest issue of Rifle magazine. I don't think its going away.

I kinda hope someone breaks the ice by putting out a decent rifle at a decent price.

And lonnnnnnngshot hoping Winchester necks it up to 20 or 22 caliber. I give it around a 0.1% chance......

They DO make it in the Ruger m77..several flavors.

And you STILL will probably will not buy one.

I didn't like the bmags either but wanted to try the 17wsm so I picked up a TC Contender barrel from MGM last spring. Thing shoots extremely accurately and is ALMOST as fun as the 17hornet on sage rats and jacks. Bonus is that it is sure nice not to have to save the brass!

I must admit, I was flinching a bit Josh...
Not as much as the boys down on the end with no hearing protection that wouldn't let me go set up a target.
That 17 wsm has a little pop to it. As far as accuracy is concerned will we soon find out. Hopefully I will be pleased with different ammo that I rimun through it.
Time will tell....

Not cheap but another option ..............

https://volquartsen.com/departments/17_wsm_rifles

I had seen those Charlie.... wow, that is alot of price for a little rifle.
Although I am sure that they shoot really well.

I would be very interested in the 17 WSM if it were necked up to 22 cal with a tipped 40gr bullet at approx 2500fps. Otherwise, I will just stay with the 22 mag and get a bit closer!

I bought two B-Mags. So there. Yep - the bolt is wonky in that the handle will drop when not fully forward. So - I don't do that... Or try not too, LOL The mags are not as refined as Ruger's. Otherwise? No complaints. Have not shot them much but it's sure a zippy little bitch. I bought one type of ammo, the American eagle. One really liked it. I bought a B22F and might get a B17 too.

Should mention I do/did not have a 17HMR. Wanted a 17 and the choice was simple for me.

A Ruger No.1 converted to the 17WSM might be nice.

Bought the first B- mag that I could find, even after reading the horror stories. Bolt is wonky, but for the price I make it work. Shoots little bitty groups all day long, even with the pencil barrel. I don't have a single complaint

I mostly lost what interest I had when the actual speed delivered by the A17 Hummer ammo was reported by JB. Comes close enough to the WSM for my purposes, and there are more Hummers available than you can shake a stick at. WSM accuracy seems to be okay, but never saw anyone say it was better than the HMR.

With the 25 grain Whizzum load going only a whisker over 2600 fps, I reckon 2500 with a 40 grainer is, pretty much, dreaming. Yep.

Had a synthetic-stocked B-Mag for a while (had to try one despite the so-so reputation), and finally had to put it in a Boyds laminated stock and use some bedding tricks to get it to average 5 shots anywhere near an inch at 100 yards. (The syn-sock was way too floppy to be any help.) Most groups were closer to 1.5". Tried several kinds of 20-grain ammo and it all shot about the same, at around 2900 fps. The only time any chronographed around 100 was on a very warm day.

In my CZ .17 HMR the A17 ammo groups under 3/4" for 5-shot groups at 100, right to the same POI as "standard" 17-grain V-Max ammo, at a muzzle velocity of around 2850, so I sent the .17 WSM down the road.

On the other hand, one of my buddies has a Ruger 77 in .17 WSM that REALLY shoots, and he likes it a lot. So I gave him my leftover WSM ammo.

If somebody would come out with a rifle priced somewhere between the B-Mag and Ruger that shot consistently well, I suspect the .17 WSM would become pretty popular. But haven't heard of anything yet.

I would think even if the velocities of the A17 17HNR loads were virutally the same, the downrange ballistics the 17 WSM 20g loads would have to be better due to it's heavier weight and better B.C.

My biggest problem with the 17WSM has been the scant number of rifles chambered in it and the mediocre accuracy in many eifles.

Without consistent MOA or better accuracy , nothing else about the rounds really matters.

Yeah, there's a difference, but very little out to the typical ranges most of us use a rimfire on, say, prairie dogs--which is all I ever shot with my .17 WSM--say 150-175 yards. Beyond there I get out the .17 Hornet--which IS noticeably more gun.

That said, one of the big reasons for the .17 WSM was hunting coyotes in the East where (and when) centerfires aren't legal. It may very well be significantly better for that use. I dunno, having never shot a coyote with either a .17 HMR or WSM.

Yoder - I don't know what kind of velocity a ".22 WSM" would yield, but I'm guessing 40 grain bullets around 2300 to 2400 fps. Especially since RWS was once turning out 2100 to 2200 fps loads using the WMR case (or so I hear). Who knows, maybe some new powder like Lil Gun would be just the thing for it too.
Its fun to think about I just don't know if there's any reason to market a bigger .22 magnum rimfire.

I would like to see what that case could do with a .204 bullet though. Seems like that bullet would be a better match to that case than a .17

Just thinking out loud.

John, was you B-Mag a sporter barrel?


Surprised to see your 2850 with 2650 on the box. I'll have to get a 17HMR after all. Figure either will be perfect for fox.

I keep hearing about how bad the b mags suck. I was getting a 3/4" group on Sunday. I really need to try out the Federal ammo if I can find some.
I've heard about the accuracy bedding fix too... I need to figure out how to take that dang stock apart...lol.

The 17 Whizzum is a KILLER chambering.

The Ruger 77 is far and away the best bolt gun route. i'm rather hip on my Franklin Krunchenticker too. Salvage sucks serious fhuqking ass.

Hint.............