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#13509258 - 01/29/19 Re: Gun Show FA match brass [Re: gnoahhh]  
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Originally Posted by gnoahhh

As for 60 year old FA Match brass being soft, after dancing with FA stuff of that vintage off and on for the last 50 years I can honestly say I never noticed that trait. Back when I was anal about such things I remarked that FA Match brass of the same lot was scary consistent regarding case volumes, measured with the water/weight thereof method. I have some FA Match brass that is on its 8th loading with no signs of impending retirement. (But mind you I don't load any of it anywhere near max. What's the point?)



Good to hear of your experience there, noah. As I said, I have not even gone through my batch far enough to even start on second reloadings. I'm just going to watch it as it goes. I don't load max loads either, so would hope for results similar to yours.

The reason I made the statement I did is that my warning on that particular batch of brass came from Dr. Ken Howell. I had a long pm or email (can't remember which now) exchange with him about several subjects and this happened to be one. He also referred to comments from Elmer Keith having made similar comments based on his reforming some 61 FA to other chamberings. I tend to listen when I get advice from people with their level of experience. It may be that I don't get the same results as they did, but I'm dang sure going to play it safe by leaning towards their experience while loading this brass.

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#13509862 - 01/30/19 Re: Gun Show FA match brass [Re: Hook]  
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If you are just shooting it in an M1, you'll never get any indication of it being softer. Pressures are too low, brass life is too short.


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#13510854 - 01/30/19 Re: Gun Show FA match brass [Re: Dave_Skinner]  
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Don't own an M1, but still hope to never stress this brass because I don't load max anything.....at least not on purpose. I have had a couple of rifles, for whatever reason, showed pressure signs before other same chambered rifles or the loading tables said there would be any.

I ended up with a large amount of once fired std and match military brass in an estate I helped a family with. The old fellow shot at Perry and would collect fired brass, deprime and tumble it, and stack it very orderly in 50 cal ammo cans. I sold may of these cans on the net and kept one of each variant for myself. I think the 61 FA, a coupe of different years of LC (both match), and one can of unfired, primed, but empty of TW(?), and some fired but dirty LC issue stuff. I can't imagine any better brass being available and have enjoyed using it.

You fellows cannot imagine all of the cool, unique, diverse, and just plain interesting stuff I pulled out of that old gent's basement. I would have loved to have known and been around him while he was alive! As it was, I had the distinct feeling that he was looking over my shoulder while I was down there. I got three pickup loads plus one utility trailer full of stuff including some really neat firearms. I know it was dumb, because his family certainly had no use for or interest in the stuff, but I handled, and sold, his stuff with as much reverence as I could. I ended up buying a couple of the guns I could afford and made the widow a fair price on all the odds and ends of things that would just be pretty much unsellable. I still get a satisfied feeling every time I make use of those things.

Here is how I found the brass. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a pic of a full can, but imagine brass stacked like this to the top and other stacked sideways in the middle gap also. All the case mouths would be faced inward and not disorganized as in this partially full can. There was literally no way another single piece could be packed in.

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#13536151 - 02/06/19 Re: Gun Show FA match brass [Re: Dave_Skinner]  
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Thanks, Tyrone!

And Hook? Wow, and good for you. Keep that legacy alive.


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