Who is it? Had this discussion with a couple of friends, and we came up with nothing.
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As in, "Could play two sports competitively" ala Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders
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Who is it? Had this discussion with a couple of friends, and we came up with nothing.
You and your friends are idiots.
Thanks for the input dumbass
Eagle Lake, Mississippi is close to heaven.
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You could make a pretty good TV show out of trying to find out. Have the competitors do the NFL combine, Olympic decathlon and maybe a triatholon to top it off. Oh and some powerlifting or strongman stuff.
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We came up with no one that could have competed in two professional sports, can you?
Eagle Lake, Mississippi is close to heaven.
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We came up with no one that could have competed in two professional sports, can you?
Tebow played pro football and baseball (minor league, but still getting paid)
That's the type of answer we were looking for, never thought about Tebow. Thanks
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Chuck Connors, and Gene Conley played both NBA, and MLB.
Thanks, did not know they played both sports
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Danny Ainge. Pro basketball and baseball. Multiple time high school All American in football, basketball, and baseball.
Good one
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Here's one. Gene Conley Conley is the only athlete to win a championship in two of the four major American sports, winning a World Series in 1957 with the Milwaukee Braves and three championships with the Boston Celtics from 1959-1961. Conley was also named to four MLB All-Star teams during his pitching career.
Here's one. Gene Conley Conley is the only athlete to win a championship in two of the four major American sports, winning a World Series in 1957 with the Milwaukee Braves and three championships with the Boston Celtics from 1959-1961. Conley was also named to four MLB All-Star teams during his pitching career.
Before my time. I will google him, thanks
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
Great swimmer for sure, could he have excelled in other sports?
Eagle Lake, Mississippi is close to heaven.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I was thinking Thorpe also, unless you mean currently. John Riggins wan another combo of speed and power, broke Gayle Sayers rushing records (can’t remember which college.)
My pick is Ted Williams, the greatest hitter I have ever seen. I guess his other sport would be Marine aviator in WWII and Korea. He would be much higher on the hits and home run lists if not for military service during his prime years. It was said his eyesight was so good that he could read the text on a spinning 78 rpm record.
John Riggins wan another combo of speed and power, broke Gayle Sayers rushing records (can’t remember which college.)
Kansas, where he was also a track star, not just a competitor.
Doug Atkins was also a collegiate recruit in basketball at Tennessee, but gave it up for football. Also a track and field star. He also would start a bar fight, just to clean the place up. Probably the greatest athlete the ever to come out of the SEC.
Bronko Nagurski.
John Elway. George Steinbrenner had a chubby for him.
Most of the NFL qbs have and could play baseball to at least the college level. Many would be able to play at some level of the MLB, usually as pitchers.
Ted Williams gets 2nd place in my vote, followed closely by Joe Dimaggio.
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Regarding Bronko Nagurksi I remember reading this story when I was a kid. This was taken from Wikipedia.
Nagurski was discovered and signed by University of Minnesota head coach Clarence Spears, who drove to International Falls to meet another player. On the outside of town, he watched Nagurski out plowing a field without assistance. According to legend, Spears asked directions and Bronko lifted his plow and used it to point.[1] He was signed on the spot to play for the Golden Gophers. Spears admitted he concocted the story on his long drive back to the university in Minneapolis.
Good friends with Al Kaline and in his Detroit day’s used to come out and take bp and work out. Kaline was quoted as saying Howe could have easily been a MLB regular
For an all-rounder Snowy Baker. He played Rugby for Australia, took both the middleweight and heavyweight national boxing championships at the age of 18, and represented Australia at the Olympic Games in swimming, diving, and boxing, winning a silver medal in the latter. He was also a champion in polo, water polo, cricket, surfing, fencing, hockey, rowing, yachting and equestrian events.
He moved to California and taught Elizabeth Taylor, Shirley Temple, Greta Garbo and Rudolph Valentino how to ride, fence and swim, and coached Douglas Fairbanks in riding, as well as appearing in several films.
Good friends with Al Kaline and in his Detroit day’s used to come out and take bp and work out. Kaline was quoted as saying Howe could have easily been a MLB regular
Somebody finally got it right. Wayne Gretzky couldn't carry Gordie's jockstrap and Wayne even said Gordie was better. Gordie could score, and take care of himself, back when the league was a lot tougher. Wayne needed Dave Semenko (Cementhead) to babysit him. Besides all that, Gordie was a gentleman and friendly guy off the ice. Many of the rest listed were jerks.
Wouldn't it be great if instead people would ask who was the greatest AMERICAN athlete?
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I'm thinking a slumlord sock puppet started this thread.
Is slumlord black, or a jew?
Shaun White is a white man who is world class in 2 sports. Eddy Merckx is also white, and probably the most dominant individual athlete of all time in any sport.
I'm thinking a slumlord sock puppet started this thread.
Is slumlord black, or a jew?
Shaun White is a white man who is world class in 2 sports. Eddy Merckx is also white, and probably the most dominant individual athlete of all time in any sport.
Slumlord is the king of two sports..................hunting arrowheads and tearing down deer stands.
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After long debate and consideration on the criteria Sir Donald Bradman was crowned the greatest sportsman in history because he is the only man to be twice as good as the best 2nd best who ever lived. All the famous hero's and local identities can never live up to that.
"The Don" was white but that is immaterial, he has no equal.
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
Did I mention he is 47 years old and still competes agains the best in the world that are half his age. I can't think of anyone outside of that Bowler that has a better resumé. But I think of bowling a game not a sport.
Johnny Manziel....if he coulda kept his head straight. Football, baseball, golf...he could do it all.
There's probably a fair number of kids like him; gifted athletically but unable to compete for whatever reason. There was a lineman working on the stadium lights at ASU a number of years ago. He was watching the track team practice. He climbed down from the lights as asked if he could join one of the 100 yard sprints. Wearing lineman boots and long pants he torched the whole bunch of them easily. He climbed back up and went back to work. Probably a few stories like that around.
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Johnny Manziel....if he coulda kept his head straight. Football, baseball, golf...he could do it all.
There's probably a fair number of kids like him; gifted athletically but unable to compete for whatever reason. There was a lineman working on the stadium lights at ASU a number of years ago. He was watching the track team practice. He climbed down from the lights as asked if he could join one of the 100 yard sprints. Wearing lineman boots and long pants he torched the whole bunch of them easily. He climbed back up and went back to work. Probably a few stories like that around.
Athleticism exists outside playing with balls. Too many people associate athletics with some sort of ball. If you want to see some incredible athleticism, watch a rodeo sometime. Then watch a motocross race. There aren’t many football players that could ride a horse or motorcycle...
Lots of them. Plenty of whtebit’s have been great athletes.
A young Babe Ruth was 6’2 of lean muscle who was the best pitcher in the majors but was such a good hitter that they moved him to first base so that he could bat. He was a scratch golfer IF his putter cooperated.
Of course, the best white athlete of all time might have been another Babe...as in Babe Didrickson Zaharia. Multiple Olympic gold medalist in track and field. Best women’s basketball player of the age. Good enough that she could play baseball on a pretty high level with men. And a dominant hall of fame female golfer.
Mildred Ella "Babe" Didrikson Zaharias (/zəˈhɑːriəs/; June 26, 1911 – September 27, 1956) was an American athlete who excelled in golf, basketball, baseball and track and field. She won two gold medals in track and field at the 1932 Summer Olympics, before turning to professional golf and winning 10 LPGA major championships. She is widely regarded as one of the greatest female athletes of all time.
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
I'm not sure that success in a sport (or sports) always equates to how athletic a person is. A lot can go into judging how athletic someone is. Speed, strength, size, agility, eye/hand coordination,...anything.
A few relatively recent outstanding athletes, looking mainly at overall athleticism:
Georges St Pierre Luke Kuechly Mac McClung....really young Johnny Manziel JJ Watt
Who is it? Had this discussion with a couple of friends, and we came up with nothing.
You and your friends are idiots.
Thanks for the input dumbass
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Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
Made my morning now I just need to clean the coffee off the keyboard.
On a serious note the big question is what exactly is one measuring, which wouldn't be as easy as measuring Mr. John Holmes qualifications. Sports and athletics cover a wide range of activity. I think if sportswriters or sports historians would actually sit down to answer this question (which I don't think they would) the greatest white athlete would probably be someone from over eighty years ago, and quite likely not american.
Grandpa fought Fascists in WWII, Dad fought Communists in Vietnam. - American is meant for the middle.
He played the skin flute and male organ in high school.
And he's probably a master at both!
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David Logan) is a former American football player, radio personality, and high school coach. Logan played in nine National Football League seasons from 1976 to 1984, primarily for the Cleveland Browns. He has been the Voice of Denver Broncos football for 20 years, serving as the team's color analyst for six seasons prior to sliding into the play-by-play role.
Dave Logan was an All-State football player at Wheat Ridge High School. While in high school, he won The Denver Post's Gold Helmet Award. An award for the state's top senior football player, scholar and citizen.[1] Out of high school, Logan was drafted by the Cincinnati Reds in the 19th round as a pitcher/infielder.[2]
Logan instead chose to attend the University of Colorado where he lettered in both basketball and football. In 1974, he was selected by Playboy as a Pre-season All-American. In 1975, he was selected by The Sporting News as an All-American.[2] In 1976, he was drafted by the NBA's Kansas City Kings in the ninth round (143rd overall pick) and by the Cleveland Browns in the third round.
Logan played for the Cleveland Browns (1976–83) and the Denver Broncos (1984). As a Cleveland Brown, Logan ranked among the top 5 in "virtually every receiving category in the franchise record books."
As of 2016, Logan had coached more than 23 seasons of high school football, making 21 post season appearances, and winning seven state championships. Logan is one of only three players, along with Dave Winfield and Mickey McCarty, to be drafted by the NBA, NFL, and MLB.
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
The tension in the room was palpable, high stakes tiddlywinks is like that, but in the end the White guy narrowly edged out the Japanese double agent
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I’m going with Babe Ruth. He won 89 games as a pitcher by the age of 23. That is more games by that age than all but two of the pitchers in the Hall of Fame. He won 20 games two years in a row. He got switched to the outfield so that he could hit everyday because in the dead ball era in limited at bats because he was a pitcher, he had hit eleven home runs. Later as a Yankee they put him in as a pitcher five times over the years at various times. He won all five games.
Best ball player who ever lived. He would be a ball of fame pitcher if he had stayed on the mound.
Ruth also holds the record of the longest complete game as a pitcher at 14 innings. His team won 2-1.
I kind of look at being “athletic” as someone who can actually play a sport requiring some skill, not just the guy who can run and jump.
Are you addressing my Bob Mathias post? If so, the guy won the gold medal in the decathlon twice, which includes shotputting , javelin as well as "running and jumping". I have an opinion: that defines an athlete and athleticism.
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I kind of look at being “athletic” as someone who can actually play a sport requiring some skill, not just the guy who can run and jump.
Are you addressing my Bob Mathias post? If so, the guy won the gold medal in the decathlon twice, which includes shotputting , javelin as well as "running and jumping". I have an opinion: that defines an athlete and athleticism.
I’m going with Babe Ruth. He won 89 games as a pitcher by the age of 23. That is more games by that age than all but two of the pitchers in the Hall of Fame. He won 20 games two years in a row. He got switched to the outfield so that he could hit everyday because in the dead ball era in limited at bats because he was a pitcher, he had hit eleven home runs. Later as a Yankee they put him in as a pitcher five times over the years at various times. He won all five games.
Best ball player who ever lived. He would be a ball of fame pitcher if he had stayed on the mound.
Ruth also holds the record of the longest complete game as a pitcher at 14 innings. His team won 2-1.
The amazing thing about Ruth was, that when he hit 60 home runs he out homered all but a few TEAMS. The modern equivalent would be hitting 500 home runs in a season.
Never has their been a more dominant baseball player.
I kind of look at being “athletic” as someone who can actually play a sport requiring some skill, not just the guy who can run and jump.
Are you addressing my Bob Mathias post? If so, the guy won the gold medal in the decathlon twice, which includes shotputting , javelin as well as "running and jumping". I have an opinion: that defines an athlete and athleticism.
I’m going with Babe Ruth. He won 89 games as a pitcher by the age of 23. That is more games by that age than all but two of the pitchers in the Hall of Fame. He won 20 games two years in a row. He got switched to the outfield so that he could hit everyday because in the dead ball era in limited at bats because he was a pitcher, he had hit eleven home runs. Later as a Yankee they put him in as a pitcher five times over the years at various times. He won all five games.
Best ball player who ever lived. He would be a ball of fame pitcher if he had stayed on the mound.
Ruth also holds the record of the longest complete game as a pitcher at 14 innings. His team won 2-1.
The amazing thing about Ruth was, that when he hit 60 home runs he out homered all but a few TEAMS. The modern equivalent would be hitting 500 home runs in a season.
Never has their been a more dominant baseball player.
I'm glad somebody finally agreed with me. He singlehandedly saved baseball after the 1919 Black Sox scandal, but changing it from a pitchers game to a hitters game. Yet, he was a great pitcher before he became a great home run hitter. His HR's rate per bat is still the highest there's ever been.
I will go with Cal Ripken jr. Think he deserves a mention. Not only a great athlete, but a good person as well.
I used to work in the Baltimore area in the early 90’s. My buddies with the sherriffs office would often get called out to Ripken’s home because he enjoyed drinking and knocking his wife around sometimes hurt her pretty badly. A phone was made and all was good
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
Discount Robin Reed all you want. But the fact that he never lost a match and beat the hell out of everybody on the Olympic team including the gold medal winning heavyweight in succession at 136lbs puts him on a different level than everybody else mentions. He worked as a steam pile driver on the docks until he decided to go to Oregon State. The images of him ripping the living hell out of everybody he was wrestling puts him at a different class.
Brian Bosworth and Tommy Nobis were studs in college. 2 best linebackers I ever seen at the college level...
Steve Largent Steve Young Brett Favre Roger Clemens Brian Urlacher Nolan Ryan Joe Montana John Elway Jay Novacek
Were all studs.
Elway could have been a 2 sport athlete easily...
And not a single one of them has 11 World Championships under their belt as does Kelly Slater.
Speaking of water sports, Michael Phelps could be the greatest white athlete. 23 gold medals.
Too short a period compared to Kelly. Kelly is 47 and minus the foot problem still at the top of his game. He has been on the ASP now WSL since he was 18. He has beaten the best of the best that came before him, during, and future greatest. He can surf Big waves and has won the Eddie. He will own you on small waves, and everything in-between he is just a machine. He has won even when they have changed the judging format. There isn't a peer of his that wouldn't tell you he is the greatest contest surfer of all times.
Comparison all multiple Winners
Mark Richards has 5 Tom Curren 3 Andy Irons 3 Mick Fanning 3 Tom Carroll 2 Damien Hardman 2 John John Florence 2 Gabriel Medina 2
Kelly won 5 in a row, two in a row two different times. He has beaten everyone listed above except Mark Richards who was before Kelly's time. Kelly has won at every major surf contest. He has dominated at several breaks like Tavarua, Pipe, Lower Trestles, and Bells.
I would like to see you paddle out at Waimea Bay. Or race a guy for priority. For that matter even be able to stay in position at Haleiwa.
Have you ever taken a pounding from an overhead or double overhead wave? Ever been slammed into a coral reef? I haven't even begun to talk about the actual act of surfing yet.
Further more every sport is judged one way or another.
But those that don't know, just don't know!
I would be willing to bet you couldn't even get up on a short board on a two foot wave, Backside measurement so roughly 4 to 5 foot face.
I would like to see you paddle out at Waimea Bay. Or race a guy for priority. For that matter even be able to stay in position at Haleiwa.
Have you ever taken a pounding from an overhead or double overhead wave? Ever been slammed into a coral reef? I haven't even begun to talk about the actual act of surfing yet.
Further more every sport is judged one way or another.
But those that don't know, just don't know!
I would be willing to bet you couldn't even get up on a short board on a two foot wave, Backside measurement so roughly 4 to 5 foot face.
I would like to see him throw a 200# pack on his back and jog a mile. Or run as fast as I did in college for a few miles. Both things few can do. I have absolutely no experience surfing and freely admit it.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
I would like to see you paddle out at Waimea Bay. Or race a guy for priority. For that matter even be able to stay in position at Haleiwa.
Have you ever taken a pounding from an overhead or double overhead wave? Ever been slammed into a coral reef? I haven't even begun to talk about the actual act of surfing yet.
Further more every sport is judged one way or another.
But those that don't know, just don't know!
I would be willing to bet you couldn't even get up on a short board on a two foot wave, Backside measurement so roughly 4 to 5 foot face.
I would like to see him throw a 200# pack on his back and jog a mile. Or run as fast as I did in college for a few miles. Both things few can do. I have absolutely no experience surfing and freely admit it.
How tough can it be? I saw a movie about penguins doing it.
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