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My Son brought home his new 'black rifle' last week, We've been getting it setup with optics and such......

These fricken things are addicting, Damn it anyway.......

Now I want one, and I have no clue.

Tell me what I want, whats good, what to avoid, yada yada....

I'm a lefty, so keep that in mind..

TIA.

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My only thought is, complete rifle, No builds or Customs at this point,

Or?

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Get a PRI 3" offset mount & a decent scope.
Midsouth just happens to have the Leupold Mark AR Mod 1 on sale for $450 right now.
I don't have one, but some of my buds have been running them for a couple seasons on Service Rifles out to 600 and seem to like them.

Oh, rifle too, huh?
I like BCM, DD and Colt, etc, but I'll settle for a PSA. smile

What do you want to do with it?

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Originally Posted by Tyrone


What do you want to do with it?


Have fun mostly.

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In that case, you need to shoot Highpower. smile


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I built my 1st AR and am completely happy with it! Don’t understand why so many folks claim you shouldn’t build your 1st? It made the experience that much sweeter! It was a great project with my son and it helped us both understand the platform so much more. It’s great having it exactly the way I want it. I will admit though I have more $$$ into it than I had originally planned but I wanted a solid gun. I say do your research and figure out what you want and start ordering the parts, that’s half the fun of it too! Successfully test firing it for the 1st time will give you great satisfaction and it’ll make the rifle seem that much better! Good Luck with whatever you decide.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Get a PRI 3" offset mount & a decent scope.
Midsouth just happens to have the Leupold Mark AR Mod 1 on sale for $450 right now.
I don't have one, but some of my buds have been running them for a couple seasons on Service Rifles out to 600 and seem to like them.

Oh, rifle too, huh?
I like BCM, DD and Colt, etc, but I'll settle for a PSA. smile



I said I have no clue,

DD? Daniel Defense?

BCM? Bacon cheese and Mayo?

PRI?

Abbreviations, trade craft, for someone who's not in the trade.............

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I wish I knew how to share pics ... I’d proudly post up the results I got!


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Originally Posted by RickyBobby
I wish I knew how to share pics ... I’d proudly post up the results I got!


The Irony, you built your own semi-auto weapon possible of mass destruction......

but the picture of it.......whoa........

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Yeah, ever since the whole photobucket thing came crashing down I never could figure out how to post pics after that 🤪


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PRI - Precision Reflex Inc.
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If you can change the oil in your car you can build an MSR.

For posting pictures I use Imgur, it is incredibly easy.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
My only thought is, complete rifle, No builds or Customs at this point,

Or?

https://www.stagarms.com/left-handed-rifles/
left handed, they are not bad rifles my friend had one its about average quality I have a 6.8 bolt from them and its done well over 7-800 fired in it as I mostly hunt with that gun. Might be nitrided barrels, don't buy a bare steel barrel from anyone unless chambers rust from time to time depending on what you do.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
My Son brought home his new 'black rifle' last week, We've been getting it setup with optics and such......

These fricken things are addicting, Damn it anyway.......

Now I want one, and I have no clue.

Tell me what I want, whats good, what to avoid, yada yada....

I'm a lefty, so keep that in mind..

TIA.


Buildja' a PSA 18" Rifle Gas FF Kit. LOTSA rifle for the very modest jingle and you'll gain the familiarity with what makes things tick.

18" PSA Rifle Kit RINK For $379.99

Slap a CMC flatty trigger in it and you are there.

Hint.............


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
Originally Posted by Kenneth
My only thought is, complete rifle, No builds or Customs at this point,

Or?

https://www.stagarms.com/left-handed-rifles/
left handed, they are not bad rifles my friend had one its about average quality I have a 6.8 bolt from them and its done well over 7-800 fired in it as I mostly hunt with that gun. Might be nitrided barrels, don't buy a bare steel barrel from anyone unless chambers rust from time to time depending on what you do.


I know the OP is left handed, but the only thing I noticed by having one was I had to pick up brass on both sides of the table, instead of one... If you buy a good one with the brass deflector, shooting a right handed AR is just fine. I would not buy a smooth side upper, if shooting left handed. That would be my only suggestion. All of my AR's (including my AR10) are right handed now... Here's what my lefty looked like. I upgraded the BCG to a nickel boron black rain ordnance, and ran a 4-16x50 Trijicon on it:

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The lower was an older Bushmaster XM15. Upper was a Stag, as Jimmy suggested and I never had one single failure or glitch with the rifle. It ran like a well oiled sewing machine.. For those that want to post pics, IMGUR is the best way to go.


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Buy a Saint Pistol with brace.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick


Buildja' a PSA 18" Rifle Gas FF Kit. LOTSA rifle for the very modest jingle and you'll gain the familiarity with what makes things tick.

18" PSA Rifle Kit RINK For $379.99

Slap a CMC flatty trigger in it and you are there.

Hint.............



I said, I'm clueless,

is this a complete rifle?

what/where is a CMC flatty?

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smooth side upper?

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Buy the kit and a stripped lower,along with a CMC Flatty trigger. Assemble,learn more than a bunch and you'll be well on your way. Hint.

CMC Flatty RINK

Be warned...in that you will hook yourself and "need" more...................(grin)


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S&W MP15 for a moderately priced AR . Good rifle

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Originally Posted by huntstat
S&W MP15 for a moderately priced AR . Good rifle


Schit furniture and Gas System...EASY pass.

Hint..............


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I'm new to ARs too. Just bought and put together a complete kit from PSA. My first AR. I'd agree with Stick, although our experience levels are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Get a good kit, stripped lower and build it how you want it. Options are pretty much endless, which is half the fun. You'll save $$ vs buying complete. Putting it together is easy and fun too. I'm already thinking about number 2 (and 3 and 4....)

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The Peezer 18" S/S Wylde Rifle Gas FF Kit,is simply a fhuqking STEAL for 379 Clams.

Add 'Lever fueled 75 Hornie BTHP's at 2800fps+ and dots literally connect themselves.

hint...............(grin)


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Oh and don't ignore the pistol option... depending on what you want to use it for, the "pistol braces" can make for a versatile little gun. Love mine so far.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
The Peezer 18" S/S Wylde Rifle Gas FF Kit,is simply a fhuqking STEAL for 379 Clams.

Add 'Lever fueled 75 Hornie BTHP's at 2800fps+ and dots literally connect themselves.

hint...............(grin)



Just for amusement, which stripped lower would be needed?

And exactly WTH is a stripped lower, whats lacking?

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Originally Posted by deflave
Buy a Saint Pistol with brace.


Spent 5 minutes looking into this, Not feeling the love.........

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
The Peezer 18" S/S Wylde Rifle Gas FF Kit,is simply a fhuqking STEAL for 379 Clams.

Add 'Lever fueled 75 Hornie BTHP's at 2800fps+ and dots literally connect themselves.

hint...............(grin)



Just for amusement, which stripped lower would be needed?

And exactly WTH is a stripped lower, whats lacking?



EVERYTHING you need,comes in the cited kit...excepting the stripped lower for $50 or so.

Stay alloy lower,not Poly and you will be fine................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
The Peezer 18" S/S Wylde Rifle Gas FF Kit,is simply a fhuqking STEAL for 379 Clams.

Add 'Lever fueled 75 Hornie BTHP's at 2800fps+ and dots literally connect themselves.

hint...............(grin)



Just for amusement, which stripped lower would be needed?

And exactly WTH is a stripped lower, whats lacking?



EVERYTHING you need,comes in the cited kit...excepting the stripped lower for $50 or so.

Stay alloy lower,not Poly and you will be fine................



I just put this exact kit together the other day. It took about an hour, only because it was my first rodeo and I was building it on my work desk, not at home. I'm quite sure if I had another in front of me right now it would take about 20 minutes. Looking forward to some trigger time with it this week.



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Rock solid no bullschit blueprint,for a STEAL of a price.................


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Originally Posted by Ptarmigan


I just put this exact kit together the other day. It took about an hour, only because it was my first rodeo and I was building it on my work desk, not at home. I'm quite sure if I had another in front of me right now it would take about 20 minutes. Looking forward to some trigger time with it this week.



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What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


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Now nuts are "tricky",for poor poor(literally) STUPID Fhuqking Blue'! Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless her heart for TRYING!

Hint.

LAUGHING!...............


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by Ptarmigan


I just put this exact kit together the other day. It took about an hour, only because it was my first rodeo and I was building it on my work desk, not at home. I'm quite sure if I had another in front of me right now it would take about 20 minutes. Looking forward to some trigger time with it this week.



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What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?



Well I built it on my work desk, but I brought a few tools from home. A couple of punch pins, hammer, set punch, armorers wrench, razor blade, and a hammer. I couldn't wait to get it home to put it together so I brought enough tools to get it done.

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Buy a Saint Pistol with brace.


Spent 5 minutes looking into this, Not feeling the love.........



Ok.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux

What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


huh?

Armorers wrench?

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux

What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


huh?

Armorers wrench?



She's stumped easily.

Understatement.

Hint.................(grin)


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
smooth side upper?


No.

Stay traditional on the upper.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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I'm happy to abandon forward assist,but wish to retain a dust cover.

Hint.................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Kenneth
My Son brought home his new 'black rifle' last week, We've been getting it setup with optics and such......

These fricken things are addicting, Damn it anyway.......

Now I want one, and I have no clue.

Tell me what I want, whats good, what to avoid, yada yada....

I'm a lefty, so keep that in mind..

TIA.


Buildja' a PSA 18" Rifle Gas FF Kit. LOTSA rifle for the very modest jingle and you'll gain the familiarity with what makes things tick.

18" PSA Rifle Kit RINK For $379.99

Slap a CMC flatty trigger in it and you are there.

Hint.............


Not bad advise for the money.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Buy a Saint Pistol with brace.


For maximum fun out of the box, yes.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Somebody isn't guessing.

Hint...............


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
PRI - Precision Reflex Inc.
DD - Daniel Defense
BCM - Bravo Co. M-something
PSA - Palmetto State Armory smile



DD and BCM are top end, no BS builders with excellent customer service.

PSA, value provider of parts and complete guns.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux

What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


huh?

Armorers wrench?



She's stumped easily.

Understatement.

Hint.................(grin)

then tell me the details,

I have no idea what the fugg you're implying,

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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smooth side upper?


No.

Stay traditional on the upper.


You guys are just not listening to me.......I have no idea what a smooth upper or traditional is.........

Seriously.. dumb it down ok?

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Ken,
You tube is your friend.

I gave my son a stripped lower and some parts. I can home from work and he was done with it.

He went on YouTube, and watched a few video's and borrowed a few tools from the gun room.....


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I'm happy to abandon forward assist,but wish to retain a dust cover.

Hint.................


I cant take anymore [bleep] hints,,,,,,,All tapped out.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Somebody isn't guessing.

Hint...............



Let me guess, You?

this is like playing 20 questions with my kids.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux

What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


huh?

Armorers wrench?



She's stumped easily.

Understatement.

Hint.................(grin)

then tell me the details,

I have no idea what the fugg you're implying,




Blue' is a CLUELESS Drooling Dumb Fhuqk.

Hint.................


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Somebody isn't guessing.

Hint...............



Let me guess, You?

this is like playing 20 questions with my kids.



You've been led to water on a silver platter.

Hint...............


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux

What did you use to install, torque, and stake the castle nut?


huh?

Armorers wrench?



She's stumped easily.

Understatement.

Hint.................(grin)

then tell me the details,

I have no idea what the fugg you're implying,




Blue' is a CLUELESS Drooling Dumb Fhuqk.

Hint.................


Let me rephrase, The castle nut, how?

hintforthe3rdfuggintime.......

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Righty-tighty...lefty-loosey.

Hint................


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12 inch Cresent wrench or what the [bleep]?

Pipe wrench?

40 ftlbs=farmer tight?

Nevermind.

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Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations

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I've yet to shoot one loose.

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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations







Cited Rifle Kit,wears a fully assembled upper.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to shoot one loose.

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Well that certainly cleared everything up.....

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations







Cited Rifle Kit,wears a fully assembled upper.

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I've yet to shoot one loose.

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Well that certainly cleared everything up.....

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I’m lost, are you still asking about a wrench for a buffer extension castle nut or something else?

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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations





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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to shoot one loose.

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Well that certainly cleared everything up.....

later.


I’m lost, are you still asking about a wrench for a buffer extension castle nut or something else?


You're not has lost has I am.......

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak
Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations





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Appreciate it.



The upper in said kit,is still fully assembled.

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Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak

. Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations


At this point my only question might be should I order the LH RockRiver Tactical Operator or the Coyote rifle, 1-9 twist and then 1-8

Need to look into Stag arms also.

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Go to you tube and watch some videos on how to assemble an AR15. Big Sticks advise on the kit and trigger is good advise. I didn't see a BCG (bolt carrier group) included in the kit, so that would be needed along with a stripped lower. You will need to go through a FFL for the stripped lower because it has the serial number on it and is considered the controlled item. The rest can be legally bought without a FFL


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak

. Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations


At this point my only question might be should I order the LH RockRiver Tactical Operator or the Coyote rifle, 1-9 twist and then 1-8

Need to look into Stag arms also.

getting pissy here.



You dropped ALL the marbles.

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I didn't see a BCG (bolt carrier group) included in the kit,


I need aspirin at this point.

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yea, It sounds like you would be better off just buying a complete rifle.


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Originally Posted by Coyotejunki
Go to you tube and watch some videos on how to assemble an AR15. Big Sticks advise on the kit and trigger is good advise. I didn't see a BCG (bolt carrier group) included in the kit, so that would be needed along with a stripped lower. You will need to go through a FFL for the stripped lower because it has the serial number on it and is considered the controlled item. The rest can be legally bought without a FFL


Bolt Carrier Group: For AR15 and M16 rifles and carbines. Bolt is made of shot-peened, Mil-spec Carpenter 158® steel. Gas key is secured with grade 8 fasteners and staked. Includes Charging Handle


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak

. Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations


At this point my only question might be should I order the LH RockRiver Tactical Operator or the Coyote rifle, 1-9 twist and then 1-8

Need to look into Stag arms also.

getting pissy here.


Stay 1-8 on the twist.

1-7 or 1-8, unless you are a high end match shooters or flinging 40's at light speed, there's no real need for anything else.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
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I didn't see a BCG (bolt carrier group) included in the kit,


I need aspirin at this point.



You dropped ALL the marbles.

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Barrel Length: 18"
Gas System: Rifle-Length
Barrel Profile: A2
Barrel Steel: 416R Stainless Steel
Barrel Finish: Stainless
Chrome Lining: None
Muzzle Thread: 1/2-28
Chamber: .223 Wylde
Twist Rate: 1:7
Barrel Extension: M4
Diameter at Gas Block: .750
Gas Block Type: Low-profile
Muzzle Device: A2 Flash Hider
Receiver Material: Forged 7075 T6
Receiver Type: M4
Handguard Type: PSA 15" Lightweight M-Lok Rail
Bolt Carrier Group Included: Yes
Bolt Steel: Carpenter 158
Bolt Carrier Profile: Full-auto
Charging Handle Included: Yes
Optics: Magpul MBUS Front and Rear Flip-Up Sights, Black
Fire Control Group: PSA Enhanced Polished Trigger (EPT)


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You may be able to find a gunsmith to put this kit together for you for a small fee.


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That kit is a better bargain than I thought. I didn't see the bcg included until you posted. If I didn't have a few AR's in 223 I'd get that kit.


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Originally Posted by Coyotejunki
That kit is a better bargain than I thought. I didn't see the bcg included until you posted. If I didn't have a few AR's in 223 I'd get that kit.



I was more than a touch "comfy" in the assertion.

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Buying the kit is your best deal, $$ wise; added a lower from Anderson or PSA, or whoever suits your fancy for $50-60, assembled (ejection & on forward assist installed) & you are done,

Finishing the assembly on the lower takes some patience & GO SLOWLY, & you will need some punches, preferably pin punches & regular as well.

If you want to spring $$ for an upgraded, drop-in trigger, it will go a little easier for a first timer.

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Surprised someone didn't cite a CMC cassette trigger,to help her out.....................(grin)


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If you’re thinking about going the kit route, this is a good video to watch. Even if you’re buying one fully assembled you should know how it all goes together.


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You'da thunked,that someone woulda suggested to her,to gain some hands on experience.................(grin)


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Surprised someone didn't cite a CMC cassette trigger,to help her out.....................(grin)


Didn't want to write a book or draw a pic, besides, sometimes revelations are best when discovered on your own.

But since you insist......................... grin

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
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Traditional upper has a dust cover and forward assist. Smooth doesn’t. I’d stay with a standard upper. I’d buy it assembled instead of stripped so both dust cover and FA is in place. Then you’d have to install barrel, gas tube and block, hand guard.

It’s not hard to put together an upper assembly, or a lower but some tools are required. Plenty of videos out there to help.

Easiest route other than buying a complete rifle would probably be to buy a complete upper already assembled, with or without a lower kit. Buy lower and parts sperately if needed. You would need an stripped lowers, lower parts kit (you can get them with and without trigger group). Then assemble the lower yourself using the trigger and buttstock of your choice. You would need an armorers wrench to torque and install the castle nut on the buffer tube extension. Read up on staking. None of it is rocket science.

Upper assembly from parts takes a little more know how and tools but still not difficult. You can get into “truing” receiver face, bedding barrel extension etc. if you want to go to that level of detail. I’ve done a few of both with no issues.

Tell us what you expect from the rifle and it’s intended use, and what you want to spend and you’ll get plenty of recommendations





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Kenneth, my friend, it sounds like you should either buy a complete upper & lower or a complete rifle this time. Just until you gather up the tools and learn a little more nomenclature.

Buy your complete lefty from Stag or RR. Try to get a 7 or 8 twist barrel.


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Kenneth, my friend, it sounds like you should either buy a complete upper & lower or a complete rifle this time. Just until you gather up the tools and learn a little more nomenclature.

Buy your complete lefty from Stag or RR. Try to get a 7 or 8 twist barrel.

8 twist is fairly common, 9 seems to be the norm, 7 is rare.....

8T handles up to what weight comfortably?

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Kenneth, my friend, it sounds like you should either buy a complete upper & lower or a complete rifle this time. Just until you gather up the tools and learn a little more nomenclature.

Buy your complete lefty from Stag or RR. Try to get a 7 or 8 twist barrel.



Or just spend like 10 minutes on google finding out how an AR operates. Buffers, gas tubes and blocks, BCGs, mag release, etc. You can go much more in depth after you have one but they are easier to put together than my kids lego sets. I bought a $9 lower vise block and a $8 wrench on fleabay, a couple of roll pin punch sets, and everything else was stuff that I had. Seriously, watch that video that I posted.

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Kenneth, my friend, it sounds like you should either buy a complete upper & lower or a complete rifle this time. Just until you gather up the tools and learn a little more nomenclature.

Buy your complete lefty from Stag or RR. Try to get a 7 or 8 twist barrel.

8 twist is fairly common, 9 seems to be the norm, 7 is rare.....

8T handles up to what weight comfortably?

8 handles up to 80gr.

As far as I'm concerned, 9 is a junk twist. Most of 9s will handles 77s, but some won't. Especially if you get into Sierra TMK and the like.


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If you are going to assemble your own. A pair of 10" or 12" Knipex smooth jaw pliers are your best friend with Role Pins.


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If you are going to assemble your own. A pair of 10" or 12" Knipex smooth jaw pliers are your best friend with Role Pins.


Or a set of these:

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...set-sku080685000-781-3016.aspx?rrec=true


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Four pages and no one has suggested a 2 pin build to poor Kenneth!

Buy a complete lower, PSA (Palmetto State Armory) usually has 2 or 3 on Daily Deals.
This will need to go to a FFL, like any lower or complete rifle.
Buy the lefty complete upper from Stag or wherever....

Pivot pin, take down pin and your ready to shoot.

Except you should clean it first to remove any manufacturing grease or oil and oil it with something good like Lucas or Slip 2000.

Of course to clean it right you will need to dis-assemble the BCG (Bolt Carrier Group) and re-assemble it. Watch a YouTube video.....

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Got them. So much faster and easier with Knipex


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Of course to clean it right you will need to dis-assemble the BCG (Bolt Carrier Group) and re-assemble it. Watch a YouTube video.....


that was no big deal, like I said, Junior walks in carrying his new one, We cleaned it, ordered optics and here we are......

Actually, this is all his fault.


A two pin build? Ok, I'm catching on, but why do a 2 pin?

lower cost, more choices?

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Everything is done for you. Put upper on lower, push in pins and go have fun.


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Of course to clean it right you will need to dis-assemble the BCG (Bolt Carrier Group) and re-assemble it. Watch a YouTube video.....


that was no big deal, like I said, Junior walks in carrying his new one, We cleaned it, ordered optics and here we are......

Actually, this is all his fault.


A two pin build? Ok, I'm catching on, but why do a 2 pin?

lower cost, more choices?



Choices.

But AR building is also about watching for bargains.

Or in the above example, Stag lower is a lot more than the PSA lower, so it's a discounted way to get a left handed AR.

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Seriously, if you can change a tire, you can build an AR lower. It's really that easy. I get the apprehension if it't not something you've ever done, but even the most basic skills will give you a functioning gun. Your other option is to just spend more money up front, then more money after when you want to change stuff that you have to learn how to change anyways.

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Seriously, if you can change a tire, you can build an AR lower. It's really that easy. I get the apprehension if it't not something you've ever done, but even the most basic skills will give you a functioning gun. Your other option is to just spend more money up front, then more money after when you want to change stuff that you have to learn how to change anyways.


If you can't assemble AR's you have zero mechanical abilities. They really are super simple.


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My only thought is, complete rifle, No builds or Customs at this point,

Or?


Save time, money and brain matter, buy yourself a 16" PSA 7 twist mid-length and have fun, 55's to 75's are yours for the taking.


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Four pages and no one has suggested a 2 pin build to poor Kenneth!

Buy a complete lower, PSA (Palmetto State Armory) usually has 2 or 3 on Daily Deals.
This will need to go to a FFL, like any lower or complete rifle.
Buy the lefty complete upper from Stag or wherever....

Pivot pin, take down pin and your ready to shoot.

Except you should clean it first to remove any manufacturing grease or oil and oil it with something good like Lucas or Slip 2000.

Of course to clean it right you will need to dis-assemble the BCG (Bolt Carrier Group) and re-assemble it. Watch a YouTube video.....



It too was plainly cited.

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Kenneth, my friend, it sounds like you should either buy a complete upper & lower or a complete rifle this time. Just until you gather up the tools and learn a little more nomenclature.

Buy your complete lefty from Stag or RR. Try to get a 7 or 8 twist barrel.

8 twist is fairly common, 9 seems to be the norm, 7 is rare.....

8T handles up to what weight comfortably?



It isn't weight,it's length and there's no such thing as "too much" RPM,in a Krunchenticker.

Hint.

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It isn't weight,it's length and there's no such thing as "too much" RPM,in a Krunchenticker.

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I actually understood this.....except for the krunechingthinger or what ever..

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I could order a '15 TONITE, if I could make up my mind on a lefty or righty....

A lefty would cost several hundred more, and twist options are more limited.....

decisions decisions.......

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Is your sons a lefty? Did you shoot it?

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Junior bought the RH Bushmaster home last weekend, He is righthanded,

My other Son is LH has so am I.

I have not shoot juniors righthanded Bushmaster,

There at least 3 or 4 '15s that I could smile about right now, RH version though...

The Lefty dilemma is whats causing the traffic jam here.....

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You've been repeatedly led to water.

Re-hint...............


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
You've been repeatedly led to water.

Re-hint...............


The kit in your link was sold out yesterday,

pick another,,,,

Did you have a woody for that SS barrel?? otherwise other kits are still on sale.

The "wylde" chamber an important feature?

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
You've been repeatedly led to water.

Re-hint...............


The kit in your link was sold out yesterday,

pick another,,,,

Did you have a woody for that SS barrel?? otherwise other kits are still on sale.

The "wylde" chamber an important feature?



Here it is again for you. Not sure why they change up their sku #s. PSA

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It don't pay to linger. Hint.

PSA Gas Length S/S Wylde Rifle Kit RINK IN Fhuqking stock HINT Do Not Fhuqking Linger

S/S steals the show and routinely.

Wylde is simply feel good salve,that don't make a fhuqk.

Hint...............


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I’d go SS over CMV on the PSA kit. I’m not a lefty but I’m thinking you’ll be fine with a standard AR, though you may want to try a brass deflector

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You guys are faster than I.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth

You guys are faster than I.


That will ONLY "surprise" you.

Hint..............


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'stick, answer the damn question.......

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You've been led to water countless times.

Hint.............


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Originally Posted by Kenneth



I admittedly don't know much about ARs, but I like SS for one, and l like the 18" barrel. Plus if you're sticking with issued parts, the trigger will be a bit better in the other kit. Order now and get the Turkey day stripped lower for $39.99 and it's a done deal.

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Add the CMC...if only yet AGAIN...............(grin)


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Add the CMC...if only yet AGAIN...............(grin)



Mines en route..

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Add the CMC...if only yet AGAIN...............(grin)


Don't know what a CMC is.......

Hint.....

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CMC is a complete drop in trigger assembly...flat or curved profile, single stage versions work quite well

Do a search on PSAs site and you will get the picture......$130-$150

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Kenneth,
A dumbass keeps telling you to add a CMC.

He is too dumb to understand that Chip McCormick, is too busy
to come live in your rifle.

What he would say if he was coherent would be,
"Buy a Chip McCormick trigger."
It replaces the normal individual parts with an enclosed assembly.
Just insert it, and use the pins to hold it in place.




Hint........
Use the ignore button for Little Twigg.
He has some knowledge, but not enough intellect to express it.


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Originally Posted by Ptarmigan
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Add the CMC...if only yet AGAIN...............(grin)



Mines en route..



I hear good thangs...............(grin)


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Kenneth,
A dumbass keeps telling you to add a CMC.

He is too dumb to understand that Chip McCormick, is too busy
to come live in your rifle.

What he would say if he was coherent would be,
"Buy a Chip McCormick trigger."
It replaces the normal individual parts with an enclosed assembly.
Just insert it, and use the pins to hold it in place.




Hint........
Use the ignore button for Little Twigg.
He has some knowledge, but not enough intellect to express it.




DealinSuck,

Like YOU could "afford" a CMC,let alone an AR. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

LAUGHING!...............


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Oh, the CMC cassette trigger assembly,

Got it.

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I like mine....and I know of a few others who are fond of em'

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Not totally sure how this works,
But when you buy a stripped lower, register it as undeclared, or a pistol.
If you register it as a rifle, just putting a pistol upper on it makes you a felon.
If it's a pistol or undeclared, you can use any upper.


I started to explain the rules for pistols and rifles, it is about as clear as mud.
Lots of "if you's." The easy version is register as a pistol.
If you use it as a rifle you will be good.
The option for other uses will be there.
If you decide to make it a pistol, with or without a brace, you will be able to.
But check the laws. Certain combinations can suddenly become illegal.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Not totally sure how this works,
But when you buy a stripped lower, register it as undeclared, or a pistol.
If you register it as a rifle, just putting a pistol upper on it makes you a felon.
If it's a pistol or undeclared, you can use any upper.


I started to explain the rules for pistols and rifles, it is about as clear as mud.
Lots of "if you's." The easy version is register as a pistol.
If you use it as a rifle you will be good.
The option for other uses will be there.
If you decide to make it a pistol, with or without a brace, you will be able to.
But check the laws. Certain combinations can suddenly become illegal.



DealinSuck,

Your INCREDIBLE Fhuqking Stupidity never disappoints.

Congratulations?!?

Wow +P+!...........


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Not totally sure how this works,
But when you buy a stripped lower, register it as undeclared, or a pistol.
If you register it as a rifle, just putting a pistol upper on it makes you a felon.
If it's a pistol or undeclared, you can use any upper.


I started to explain the rules for pistols and rifles, it is about as clear as mud.
Lots of "if you's." The easy version is register as a pistol.
If you use it as a rifle you will be good.
The option for other uses will be there.
If you decide to make it a pistol, with or without a brace, you will be able to.
But check the laws. Certain combinations can suddenly become illegal.


Wrong if you live in a free state the dealer registers them as other. If you live in California psa even states they ship as rifle lowers. The dealer I go to here in Wasilla told me all stripped lowers go in the book as other. If you have to tell your dealer to register a stripped lower as other, it's time to find another dealer..


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Add the CMC...if only yet AGAIN...............(grin)


Don't know what a CMC is.......

Hint.....


I will say this your Google fu sucks.. if I were you saddle up to the computer, click on you tube. In the search bar type AR15 build hit enter. Then prepare to have your mind blown. After that do a new search and type AR15 triggers. Hit enter and sit back and watch.. then go to PSA or hit any of the links provided, buy the psa rifle kit, then buy a psa stripped lower. Have the lower shipped to your ffl. If you are lucky your dealer will be in psa database already. It's easy peasy.

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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I handed her Highlighted LINKS on a Silver Platter and she still fhuqked it up.

Rather IMPRESSIVE..................(grin)


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Lots of good advice already given, Ken.

Im still learning and it takes abit of time to get used to fhe "jargon"

Hang in there. Watchsome vids, youll get the hang of it.

I found this very simple video on how to dismantle the BCG( bolt carrier group) for lubeing. maybe it will help you at some point.

..oops...vid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlQmQWGcAg

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NOT looking good................(grin)


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CMC makes triggers. They're very good triggers, but not as good as others are for only a little more money, and they're made by a great group of people who do a lot to support the shooting community. I don't need to afford them because I've got a pile of them and they send me more for free when I ask.


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Blue',

Folks who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will ALWAYS be better served by asking questions...rather than giving "answers". Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

Congratulations?!?

LAUGHING!...............


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
CMC makes triggers. They're very good triggers, but not as good as others are for only a little more money, and they're made by a great group of people who do a lot to support the shooting community. I don't need to afford them because I've got a pile of them and they send me more for free when I ask.

If you get them for free and have so many how's about selling me a 2.5# flat trigger?


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Originally Posted by Kenneth

That is fine. It may lack a little accuracy compared to the SS barrel, but it will probably last longer.
It's still good enough to blast a deer @ 300. I've won club matches shooting one just like that.


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Trybone,

You suck a mean ass.

Congratulations?!?

LAUGHING!...........


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CMC makes triggers. They're very good triggers, but not as good as others are for only a little more money, and they're made by a great group of people who do a lot to support the shooting community. I don't need to afford them because I've got a pile of them and they send me more for free when I ask.

If you get them for free and have so many how's about selling me a 2.5# flat trigger?


I traded all my flat for curved bows. My kids’ 15-22 has. 2.5# curved. In use it’s indistinguishable from the 3.5# model.


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You are the Jeff-Zero of AR's. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

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Originally Posted by Ptarmigan
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
You've been repeatedly led to water.

Re-hint...............


The kit in your link was sold out yesterday,

pick another,,,,

Did you have a woody for that SS barrel?? otherwise other kits are still on sale.

The "wylde" chamber an important feature?



Here it is again for you. Not sure why they change up their sku #s. PSA


From what I could tell, there's a slight difference in the freefloat tubes.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Trybone,

You suck a mean ass.

Congratulations?!?

LAUGHING!...........

There are those who win matches and those who merely dream of greatness and pretend that the last hundredth of a BC point plugged into a ballistic calculator makes them more than mediocre, and choose instead to simply be "characters" known only for their blowing.
Congratulations?


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Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


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Originally Posted by deflave
Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


Didn't the last guy from Wisconsin with an AR go.postal in the woods and kill a bunch of deer hunters?


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Originally Posted by deflave
Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


With as many hints as he had, I think he was just kicking tires.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


I think he gave up and went ice fishing..


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Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


Didn't the last guy from Wisconsin with an AR go.postal in the woods and kill a bunch of deer hunters?


He did that with a sks..


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Originally Posted by 79S
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Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


I think he gave up and went ice fishing..


Hell to the No.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?

Gotta cash in the recycling and empty the piggy bank first,

Earbuds and a firearm in the same year?

Wayyyyyy over the top............

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Originally Posted by TWR
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Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


With as many hints as he had, I think he was just kicking tires.


Not quite accurate,
Fairly sure I want a lefty.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I handed her Highlighted LINKS on a Silver Platter and she still fhuqked it up.

Rather IMPRESSIVE..................(grin)


I understand you really liked that SS barrel, handy no doubt,

but it's not like I lay my rifles in the water every time I catch a fish..........

re-hint.

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Wylde chamber is not a bad thing.

SS is fine, but CM isn't bad. SS tend to die from one shot to the next at the end of their life while CM just fade away

If worried about corrosion etc... simply dura bore coat a CM. SS is not necessary. Quality of the barrel is more important than type of metal basically.

I'd not go less than 8 or 9 twist personally. There are reasons to, but I don't have any of them. I"ve rarely been unhappy with a 7 twist. Even 6.5 twists will shoot thick jacketed 52 smks... varmint 50ish the 6.5 will not, and even the 7s have toasted some thin skin Berger bullets years ago before they beefed up their 63s IIRC.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Did the guy from Wisconsin manage to find an AR?


With as many hints as he had, I think he was just kicking tires.


Not quite accurate,
Fairly sure I want a lefty.


Oh god.

You're one of those...


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
My Son brought home his new 'black rifle' last week, We've been getting it setup with optics and such......

These fricken things are addicting, Damn it anyway.......

Now I want one, and I have no clue.

Tell me what I want, whats good, what to avoid, yada yada....

I'm a lefty, so keep that in mind..

TIA.


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Slap a CMC flatty trigger in it and you are there.

Hint.............


Stick,

Looks like the kit comes with a trigger. Upgrade worth it?

Any advice on stripped receiver? See if that PSA has a billet receiver.

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Looks like BS is on "vacation".

I would replace the trigger, even if it's polished, it's still too heavy.

Personally, I don't see the point of billet receivers on 5.56 hunting guns, and certainly not the lower. Maybe someone can make a case for billet lowers in some sort of competition, but it won't be Highpower. I could see a billet lower if it was paired with a billet upper just for aesthetics. The lower doesn't do anything other than hold the pieces together. Not much stress.


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Thanks Tyrone,

After reading all the great opinions on the PSA kit, I ordered one last night. This will be my first AR. I’ll pick up a trigger too. Any brand of receiver you recommend or are they kind of a horse apiece?

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I like 2 stage triggers. You get a safe, light, final pull weight with them.

Right now, the best deal that I'm aware of is the LaRue MBT2S. It feels good and is about 26/28oz 1st & 2nd with the light spring in my gun.

I'm not a big fan of Anderson, but for lower, I'd buy something cheap. Some of the Anderson's are OK, some are weird colors. You'll probably need a short grip screw with them, or about 1/4" worth of washers. I like PSA, Aero, Spikes for budget lowers. There's a lot of others out there. Look for a deal, they aren't difficult to unload if you don't like them.


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color of lower does not affect how it works just FYI for folks. Tyrone knows that I'm just tossing it out. All depends on if you are anal or not. Guns are a tool for me. Never really all that concerned about looks though I do have a couple of bolt guns in colors just because I could but I won't go out of my way to buy.... if blems are just color and not functional issues, roll with it.


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Stag has a bunch of left hand models at under the 700ish mark

Just saying....

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
My Son brought home his new 'black rifle' last week, We've been getting it setup with optics and such......

These fricken things are addicting, Damn it anyway.......

Now I want one, and I have no clue.

Tell me what I want, whats good, what to avoid, yada yada....

I'm a lefty, so keep that in mind..

TIA.


Buildja' a PSA 18" Rifle Gas FF Kit. LOTSA rifle for the very modest jingle and you'll gain the familiarity with what makes things tick.

18" PSA Rifle Kit RINK For $379.99

Slap a CMC flatty trigger in it and you are there.

Hint.............


Stick,

Looks like the kit comes with a trigger. Upgrade worth it?

Any advice on stripped receiver? See if that PSA has a billet receiver.

Thanks




With the Kit in your mitts,you can do as per whim.

Slammed (3) together last night.

PSA makes it easy and I'd source all from them,just to have it all in the same box and defer shipping.

Hint................


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
I like 2 stage triggers. You get a safe, light, final pull weight with them.

Right now, the best deal that I'm aware of is the LaRue MBT2S. It feels good and is about 26/28oz 1st & 2nd with the light spring in my gun.

I'm not a big fan of Anderson, but for lower, I'd buy something cheap. Some of the Anderson's are OK, some are weird colors. You'll probably need a short grip screw with them, or about 1/4" worth of washers. I like PSA, Aero, Spikes for budget lowers. There's a lot of others out there. Look for a deal, they aren't difficult to unload if you don't like them.



Anderson's are drilled all the way through and 1/4-28 x 1" will connect all dots. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING though.

Hint.

Laughing!................


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Big Stick
I handed her Highlighted LINKS on a Silver Platter and she still fhuqked it up.

Rather IMPRESSIVE..................(grin)


I understand you really liked that SS barrel, handy no doubt,

but it's not like I lay my rifles in the water every time I catch a fish..........

re-hint.



S/S is never a concession,in ANY application. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Holster the Whine,simply take notes and apply same.

Hint..................


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I'm thinkin' Kenneth has analysis paralysis as he's been led to water via various routes but he can't seem to pull the trigger................pun intended.

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It's a rather GOOD Show and that ain't an accolade..................(grin)


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Tyrone

I'm not a big fan of Anderson, but for lower, I'd buy something cheap. Some of the Anderson's are OK, some are weird colors. You'll probably need a short grip screw with them, or about 1/4" worth of washers.

Anderson's are drilled all the way through and 1/4-28 x 1" will connect all dots. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING though.

Hint.

Laughing!................

Coming from a dumb ass that could rust a diamond, I'm surprised you'd do that. But really, you are so stupid I shouldn't be surprised that you have no clue about galvanic reactions.


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Trybone,

Your Estrogen Surge is again reeling,might I suggest yet another 1000cc's of Vagisil,in your usual location? Hint. Congratulations?!?

Be sure to cite your Galvanic "Reasoning" betwixt barrel/receiver interface and ring/rail interface...if only to quantify your STUPIDITY even fhuqking further,by doing your best.

Hint.

Bless your heart.

LAUGHING!.................


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by Tyrone

I'm not a big fan of Anderson, but for lower, I'd buy something cheap. Some of the Anderson's are OK, some are weird colors. You'll probably need a short grip screw with them, or about 1/4" worth of washers.

Anderson's are drilled all the way through and 1/4-28 x 1" will connect all dots. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING though.

Hint.

Laughing!................

Coming from a dumb ass that could rust a diamond, I'm surprised you'd do that. But really, you are so stupid I shouldn't be surprised that you have no clue about galvanic reactions.



I smell a "Delete" attempt.

LAUGHING!...............


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Be sure to cite your Galvanic "Reasoning" betwixt barrel/receiver interface and ring/rail interface...if only to quantify your STUPIDITY even fhuqking further,by doing your best.

Fug Stick, Suck a Glock. You should know that anodizing prevents galvanic corrosion.
Try to keep up.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Be sure to cite your Galvanic "Reasoning" betwixt barrel/receiver interface and ring/rail interface...if only to quantify your STUPIDITY even fhuqking further,by doing your best.

Fug Stick, Suck a Glock. You should know that anodizing prevents galvanic corrosion.
Try to keep up.



Trybone,

What part of a lower isn't anodized?

Your Estrogen Surge is again reeling,might I suggest yet another 1000cc's of Vagisil,in your usual location? Hint. Congratulations?!?

Be sure to cite your Galvanic "Reasoning" betwixt barrel/receiver interface and ring/rail interface...if only to quantify your STUPIDITY even fhuqking further,by doing your best.

Hint.

Bless your heart.

LAUGHING!.................


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Some people use anti-seize on their barrels. Ever wonder why?
Clue.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Some people use anti-seize on their barrels. Ever wonder why?
Clue.



Trybone,

It's your Imagination,simply Pretend with it however you MUST.

Do they anti-seize the scope rings too? HINT.

Bless your heart for TRYING,you poor poor(literally) CLUELESS Fhuqk.

Hint.

Laughing!..............


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Do you shoot bare steel rings with bare aluminum tubes?


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If the hole is tapped all the way through why wouldn’t it be anodized? And FWIW I’ve run a tap through a bunch that weren’t and damned if I’ve had any galvanic issues.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Do you shoot bare steel rings with bare aluminum tubes?



Trybone,

Your haste to take Stupidity to places it's never been before,is rather fhuqking IMPRESSIVE. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Here's to the perpetual hilarity,of your BEST...being so welllllllll shy of the mark! Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

Laughing!..............


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Originally Posted by TheKid
If the hole is tapped all the way through why wouldn’t it be anodized? And FWIW I’ve run a tap through a bunch that weren’t and damned if I’ve had any galvanic issues.


Her Imagination and Pretend,are taking her places,that don't exist.

LUCKILY I live in the arid Desert,so we don't get any moisture.................(grin)


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In no particular order and for no particular reason...

My 2 Anderson lowers weren't anodized deep down where the mag catch spring rides.

Years ago, there was a warning not to use actual anti seize due to it containing bare aluminum and could cause this galvanic thingie.

Some Anderson lowers did require a tap to finish the hole or a shorter screw.

None of this matters nor stopped me from buying $35 lowers.

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Only assembled (3) last night and less the Anodizing or through hole grip thread "issues".

Prolly didn't anti-seize the grip screw,selector,mag catch or rings.....................(grin)


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https://www.stagarms.com/left-handed-upper-halves/

PSA offers deals on nickle boron BCG's and you can pick as simple or fancy a charge handle that you like,

After choosing your stripped lower you can get a parts kit with everything but a trigger then add the CMC unit
or whatever blows your skirt up. Lots of choices but do not get bogged down get one and shoot hell out of it then you will begin to learn what you like,,,, Good Luck Kenneth


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Books,
Patrick Sweeney, Gunsmithing the ar15
Glen Zediker, Ar15 Builders Guide
DVD, BROWNELLS, HOW TO BUILD AN AR15


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I would like to hear more about cmc trigger. Install is drop in? No fiddling with getting springs backwards?


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Ken,
You tube is your friend.

I gave my son a stripped lower and some parts. I can home from work and he was done with it.

He went on YouTube, and watched a few video's and borrowed a few tools from the gun room.....


BROWNELLS DVD on you tube for free in bits and pieces


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I'm happy to abandon forward assist,but wish to retain a dust cover.

Hint.................


I cant take anymore [bleep] hints,,,,,,,All tapped out.


That right there is funny!


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