24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
J
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
I recently inherited a Model 12 marked Trap with matching serial numbers on the receiver and barrel in the 300,000 range. It has a polychoke on the end. I have no intention to sell or value it. But, it came with a second complete front end (barrel, magazine tube, forearm) that has no serial number or special markings on it. That barrel is marked WS-1 which I understand to be a skeet choke. I am wondering if this second barrel “belongs” with the others as a set, if so I will keep them together. If not, any guidance on the value of the skeet front end? Metal condition and bore is 95% but the forearm is cracked. The forearms on the two barrels are different styles.

GB1

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,734
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,734
Probably $600-$800. The front end with the WS-1 Barrel is indeed a skeet barrel (skeet 1). Value will hinge a lot on the quality of the wood. Presentation grad wood could bump it as high as $1000. I would have a gunsmith check headspace on both barrels. The skeet barrel may not have been fitted to the receiver. If the second front end carries a different serial number it is not factory original.

Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
J
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
The second barrel (skeet barrel) has no serial number that I can find, that’s what’s throwing me off a little. The wood on it is not fancy or in great shape (crack), but it is the narrow checkered forearm I see online on some skeet models. Just trying to figure out what I have. Good call on the head spacing, never considered that.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,734
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,734
Look on the bottom of the front end where the magazine tube screws into the extension. When the front end is on the shotgun the serial number of the rreceiver and the front end are adjacent to each other.

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 631
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 631
Years ago I was told by someone who was the local expert on Model 12's that if the second barrel was original to the gun, the serial numbers would all match; the two barrel, magazine and forearm assemblies and the receiver. If there was no serial number on the second assembly, the gun had been fitted by the factory after it had originally been shipped. It may not have actually been fitted at the factory; it may have been done by an authorized repair facility. Of course, if there was a different serial number on the assembly, it had been put together from two different guns. I have had the first two types, and have seen some of the third. The first, is, of course, the most desirable, the second is pretty desirable, and the third is anybody's guess. First and second instance the second assembly would have been fitted to the receiver, the third could be OK, or they could have buggered up the receiver to make everything fit.

IC B2

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,113
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,113
Originally Posted by bigolddave
Years ago I was told by someone who was the local expert on Model 12's that if the second barrel was original to the gun, the serial numbers would all match; the two barrel, magazine and forearm assemblies and the receiver. If there was no serial number on the second assembly, the gun had been fitted by the factory after it had originally been shipped. It may not have actually been fitted at the factory; it may have been done by an authorized repair facility. Of course, if there was a different serial number on the assembly, it had been put together from two different guns. I have had the first two types, and have seen some of the third. The first, is, of course, the most desirable, the second is pretty desirable, and the third is anybody's guess. First and second instance the second assembly would have been fitted to the receiver, the third could be OK, or they could have buggered up the receiver to make everything fit.


That is true^^^^^^. A lot of private “government jobs” walked out the gates in New Haven during the good years there.

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 615
K
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
K
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 615
The headspace on a M-12 is set within the receiver so front-ends can be swapped with no worries. The adjusting collar on the barrel assembly adjusts to make up for wear, no effect on headspace.

Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
J
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
J
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 349
Thanks guys! The original owner was a competitive trap shooter so it’s makes sense based on what bigolddave says that the second barrel was fitted by the factory after the fact. No serial number on it whatsoever. Forearm is different too.

Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,882
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,882
Don't confuse Skeet with Trap, two different clays game, usually shot with two different guns.
A two barrel set could mean the owner shot both Trap & Skeet


"The older I get, the better I was"

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

602 members (007FJ, 1minute, 10ring1, 1Longbow, 1lessdog, 10gaugeman, 63 invisible), 2,977 guests, and 1,153 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,527
Posts18,452,853
Members73,901
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.062s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8265 MB (Peak: 0.9090 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-18 16:20:57 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS