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Anybody have a pet whitetail load that has been accurate in several different 7-08's? Premium bullets not required because I'm a cheap skate.  My shots are mostly under 100 yards and the absolute furthest I can shoot where I usually hunt is around 450 yards.
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My goto load has been 46 grains of RL-17 and a 140 NBT. This has worked in every 7-08 I've loaded it for, well over 6 rifles at this point.
I've also had success in several rifles of 51.5 grains of Big Game using a 120 NBT. I've only loaded this in 2-3, but also worked very well.
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Anybody have a pet whitetail load that has been accurate in several different 7-08's? Premium bullets not required because I'm a cheap skate. My shots are mostly under 100 yards and the absolute furthest I can shoot where I usually hunt is around 450 yards. For years the ol’ Campfire load was RL 15 or Big Game with 120 BT or TTSX. I settled on 49.0 of Big Game & the 120 BT
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Have used a case full of Big Game or H4350 with a 139-140 in several with excellent results.
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The only load I found shot MOA in the wife's Model 7 was 47.7g IMR4350 with a Sierra 140g Gameking.
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42.5 gr of IMR 4064 or 43.0 Varget behind a 139 gr Hornady bullet has been my go to load for the 7mm/08. I've shot it with good results in 4 different rifles.
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A friend turned me on to this load years ago and it’s the best I’ve ever shot in my 7/08’s in 30 or so years.
Nosler BT, 41.0 grains of IMR-4064. Its always shot itty bitty bug holes, low recoil comparatively speaking and it drops deer. Wonderful little combination.
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41g Varget, 140 BT's and/or AB's.
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JG, do you know the velocity? powdr
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Book max load of Varget under 140 Sierra PH works well in my Win M70 Fwt.
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Check Pharmseller’s previous posts, he might have listed a few...
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45gn R-15 120 TSX/V-Max Swap. 3050fps from 22", 3K from 20". Shoots good in Kimber MT, Win 70 Fwt, Win 70 Ranger, Vanguard, Rem Mt Rifle, Rem Model 7 off the top of my head.
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47.5 GR of CFE223 with either a 120gr ttsx or a Nosler 120bt. Under an inch and 3150fps. The ttxs works good on elk.
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Not a gun writer, but the 120 gr. BT/Barnes TTSX and Big Game is a great combination. The quantity of BG depends on the brass used for maximum loads. I shoot Lapua brass; my load is 48.5 gr. Of BG, CCI 200 primer for a hair over 3100 fps. Both bullets mentioned shoot into less than an inch at 100 yards.
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A Sierra Pro-Hunter 120 gr. #1900 over 42.5 grs. of Varget has been my deer load for several years.....very accurate and never fails to put meat in the freezer.
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JG, do you know the velocity? powdr All mine have been in the 2800' range.
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Thanks everybody. From what is posted here and a couple p.m.'s, sounds like I'll start with 120 and 140 B-tips and Varget, RL-15, and 4064. I have some Big Game left but am hesitant to even try it because finding it locally can be a chore. Got to finish cleaning up the bedding in the stock, figure out which mounts I'm going to use and pick up some B-tips. Hopefully I'll get to play with it either this weekend or next at the latest.
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49 gr H414 120 B-Tip at 3024 fps. Shoots well in 2 rifles.
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Short range here of 300 and less
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42g of IMR 4895
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I load for 2
1 likes 120 gr bullets and 42 gr. of varget but its not finicky on powder
1- is very finicky and 43 gr. of 4064 was the cure with 139 gr. hornady's
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In my Model Seven SS 7-08 with 20" barrel:
47.5 grains of Big Game, WLRM primer, 140 grain Partitions @2.80" in Lapua brass @2860 fps
45.0 grains of Varget, WLRM primer, 120 grain NBTs @2.80" in Lapua brass @3000 fps
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Buy your 140 grain Partitions from Shooters Pro Shop, the factory seconds are BOGO compared to firsts.
As above, 47.5 grains Big Game, WLRM, 2.805” or so. 2880 fps from a 22 1/2” barrel. Sub-moa in 5 rifles, 4 Tikkas and 1 Ruger. Kills way above its pay grade.
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You mean like the 7x57 killed for various "old-time" hunters, not just Bell and elephants with solids, but John Taylor with the 140-grain ".275 Rigby" amoo?
Taylor said that load was good to go on anything up to 1000 pounds.
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Well, so far the best I’ve done was a bit under 700 pounds, but it sure settled his hash in a hurry.
Probably not that big, really, but an honest 650.
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Pharm, Just think what you could do with a 270 W   Jerry
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Pharm, Just think what you could do with a 270 W Jerry Turn gay?
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Pharm, Just think what you could do with a 270 W Jerry Turn gay?  Bite your tongue  270s don't come with "Man Buns" ! Those accompany the 'new kid' on the block.....  Jerry
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Worked up a really nice load yesterday— 140gr ttsx, 46gr H380, Fed 210m, Norma brass
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49gr + of big game under a 120 gr bt(or ttsx). 49 gr was one hole at 100 yards at a little over 3k fps, but liked the extra speed with the ttsx at at nearly 3200 fps and 0.75 moa. Safe in my gun, consult the books and work up in yours.
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Picked up some Winchester brass, some 120 B.T.'s and got 140's coming because none of the local shops had them. No Big Game locally either, so I have some Varget, 4064, 4350 and RL15 lined up. Still have to check necks on the brass and swipe some lipstick from the wife to figure out where the bolt release is rubbing on the stock. If it don't shoot like I want I'll put some lipstick all over the stock and call it a pig.
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45 grs of Varget under a 120 gr NBT.
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I really like the 7-08, It's a fine cartridge.
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My T3 loves 43.0 gr. of Varget pushing a 140 gr. Gameking in Lapua Brass
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Hunting with the 260 for a long time, I didn't see the need to own one...
however last summer a 7/08 was available at Sportsman's Whorehouse for under $300..
it was a Howa, so I decided that was a value and a half, so I picked one up...
figured it would easily return what it was paid for...
Gotta admit, when it turned out to pick a load for it... I just one upped from a load that works well in the
260 Rem..... so I pulled down a can of 4064 and picked up some Hornady 139 gr SP.s and loaded
it up...didn't see a deer when I was carrying it out in the field...
however, the successes I've seen with the 260 and the 129 gr SP Hornady, it was a no brainer that
the 139 gr in 7mm would do just as well...with just a real cheap 4 x Tasco on top in Weaver rings ( $10 at Wally World).. the rifle still did real well at the range...
After season for cheap plinking at the range or with some of our Boy Scouts, I have used some of the bunch of 100 grain HP.s some one kindly gave me... behind a charge of 30 grains of 4198.
The average 12 to 15 year old can shoot it well and they feel awfully proud of groups at 200 yds...
fired off the bench....
The latter load is like a bigger bore 243 is all... kids shoot it well, without a lot of wear and tear on them.
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I have a 7mm-08. How can I save this entire thread for future use?
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For deer, 300 yds and under we have had fabulous success in 8 different family members shooting Rem 700's.
130g Speer btsp
Rem brass
Rem 9 1/2
42g of IMR 4895
touch the lands with the bullet
3000 fps
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Accuracy is clover leaf or better in a bedded, freefloated rifle in a good stock.
For large hogs, 154g Hornady Sp or 160g Sierra btsp with R#19 and win primers. Two cousins are shooting the 150g Nosler accubonds with spectacular results on how lethal they are on deer, Accuracy is great because this bullet likes to jump a lot. The 154g Hornady sp will shoot holes, broadside, through both shoulders of large hogs, and it takes a 120g ttsx to compete with this kind of penetration.
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45-46 grains of RL-17 and a 140 VLD have shot well in a few 7-08's in the stable...
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My T3 loves 43.0 gr. of Varget pushing a 140 gr. Gameking in Lapua Brass A question about your load; have you fired it over a chronograph to see what your velocity is? My reason for asking is this. You are at book maximum as listed by Sierra using Federal brass, but you are using Lapua brass which is substantially thicker and heavier than Federal. In my experience, I have had to reduce my powder charges by one and a half to two grains in Lapua brass in order to show the same velocity (thus pressure). May just be me and my rifles, but others see these loads and assume that they are ok to use as listed. Just thought it to be a question worth asking.
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My T3 loves 43.0 gr. of Varget pushing a 140 gr. Gameking in Lapua Brass A question about your load; have you fired it over a chronograph to see what your velocity is? My reason for asking is this. You are at book maximum as listed by Sierra using Federal brass, but you are using Lapua brass which is substantially thicker and heavier than Federal. In my experience, I have had to reduce my powder charges by one and a half to two grains in Lapua brass in order to show the same velocity (thus pressure). May just be me and my rifles, but others see these loads and assume that they are ok to use as listed. Just thought it to be a question worth asking. I started this load at the min and worked up in 1/2 gr. increments. I have not chronoed this load but do plan on getting around to it this spring as I have just purchased another. I have not found any pressure signs at all yet. This is 308 brass that I resized as I could not find any 708. I have used this load for the past two years and have killed nine deer with it. All DRT. It has been very consistent so far with this lb of powder
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Sounds like your load development was done as done in the right way. My only concern would be that sometimes “pressure signs” don’t show up until a load is way over acceptable pressure. I’m not trying to be overly critical here; but I would suggest using a chronograph when developing loads. Maybe the best $100 or so you’ll ever spend. By the way, welcome to the campfire.
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H380 and 120 ballistic tip
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45 gr Varget, WLR primers, 120 gr NBT. 3100 fps.
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I've only loaded for a few 7-08's but it's one of my favorite rounds. For the last couple of decades I've settled on the same max load of RL-19 and 140 Noslers. BT's, partitions or Accubonds all group within 1" of each other at 100 out of my Steyr. BT's and AB's usually under 1/2" and partitions around 3/4". Getting just over 2900 through the chrono with a 24" barrel. Similar results with my buddy's Savage and Ruger's. You don't really need anything but the BT's on deer. I shoot this load pretty regular out to 600 and sometimes out to 1000.
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Tag for Mr. Seafire’s reduced load
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I have a 7mm-08. How can I save this entire thread for future use? Bookmark it. Or copy and paste on Word the loads you like and print. DF
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My pet load for my Browing A-Bolt is 140 grain Nosler BTs, 47.0 grains of H4350, Remington brass and a Federal 210 primer. Velocity is 2743 average (over 50 samples) and the Standard Dev is 15 fps, so it is pretty consistent. The good thing about this load is that the BTs and the ABs group to the same point of impact and my A-bolt prints both into less than an inch (5-shot groups). My average is 0.731" with the BTs and 0.971" with the ABs (both average of ten 5-shot groups). So, I can load up and practice with the cheaper BTs and use the ABs for hunting.
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Buy your bullets from shootersproshop dot com. BOGO.
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Went through the process a few weeks ago with my first ever 7-08.
41.0gr IMR-4064 with a 140 Partition was the clear accuracy winner. Very impressive.
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H380 and nosler 120 ballistic tip. It’s nice to use a powder that throws easily. Guaranteed accurate in any half decent 7-08.
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Some years back, I had a 700-C in 7-08. It did very well with 140's over Norma 204. That gun went down the road, have not used 204 in my current 7-08, a Bobby Hart built 700 in Hunters Edge, as it does so well with BG.
Just thought I'd mention N-204 which is slightly slower than H-4350, which is a tad slower than BG.
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Well, after reading so much about 120 Ballitic Tips and Varget I had high hopes for it, but it's not to be. I loaded five rounds each of 43, 44 and 45 grains with it. The best group was about 2 1/4 inches for the 45 grain load. By contrast IMR 4064 and the Speer 130 grainer done much better. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ll7UNDY.jpg) I'll play some more with the 120's and some other powders but I'll try the Speer with other powders also. I also so have the 140 B.T's to try. Then I'll pick the two or three most promising and try tweaking them a little.
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45gn R-15 120 TSX/V-Max Swap. 3050fps from 22", 3K from 20". Shoots good in Kimber MT, Win 70 Fwt, Win 70 Ranger, Vanguard, Rem Mt Rifle, Rem Model 7 off the top of my head. That's exactly where I landed working up loads for 120 ttsx. Seated to the front of the first driving band gives me .75 4 shot groups out of the boys 700 youth stuck in a Mickey edge with a timney, milled follower, Talley's and a conquest 3-9x.
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RL16, RL17 and H4350 do well with 140's. My best load has been 45gr. RL17/140BT. I've tried Varget, Rl15, Biggame and Imr4350 with 120's, IMR 4350 gave me the best groups. [Linked Image] ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/2WRetiCl.jpg)
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Are the Ballistic Tips seated straight?
What's all the 5 shots then 3 shots about?
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Varget has characteristly low S.D.'s and is very consistent. Good 7-08 powder. BUT, if you follow Pharmseller, you can't load the 7-08 with anything other than Big Game powder...  And, IMO, he's onto something. Look at his groups and dead critters... Hard to argue with success. I'd probably use Varget with lighter bullets, BG with heavier ones. I got my 7-08 late in the season last year, used factory 120 NBT's. They grouped so well, killed stuff so dead, I've not worked up loads, yet. Too many other ongoing projects, like my latest, a 338-06, etc. A Loony's work is never done...  DF
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I have a new to me Steyr 7mm-08.
20" bbl, 44.00gn of H-4350, Lapua brass, Federal 210m primer, Hornaday 150gn ELD-X, 2606 ft/s.
3 shot group at 1038 yards, 6.25".
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Played the Kimber roulette with a Kimber stainless 7mm-08. Running some old loads from a past 7-08 and found most were a bit tight in the chamber. Then I found 4 that were seated slightly deeper. Three of them went into a dime-sized group.
I saved thte 4th one to measure to shorten the others.
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Are the Ballistic Tips seated straight?
What's all the 5 shots then 3 shots about? I only checked run out on three rounds. All three were at .003. The three shot measurements were for my own curiosity.
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My favorite load presently is 47.0 grains of H414 popped by a CCI 250 mag primer and pushing a 145 gr. Speer BTSP. Easy 3 shot MOA groups and 2760 fps out of my 18 1/2 inch barrel. Seems pretty fast for the short barrel and when I shoot this 20 rounds up hunting this year I may reduce it 1/2 grain. I did the work up in 90+ degree weather no issues. This model seven has a pretty short throat.
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I have a new to me Steyr 7mm-08.
20" bbl, 44.00gn of H-4350, Lapua brass, Federal 210m primer, Hornaday 150gn ELD-X, 2606 ft/s.
3 shot group at 1038 yards, 6.25". why you shoot odd 1038 yards? and not a even 1000 yards? sounds a bit fishy one might say
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I have a new to me Steyr 7mm-08.
20" bbl, 44.00gn of H-4350, Lapua brass, Federal 210m primer, Hornaday 150gn ELD-X, 2606 ft/s.
3 shot group at 1038 yards, 6.25". why you shoot odd 1038 yards? and not a even 1000 yards? sounds a bit fishy one might say Your couch smells fishy
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I have a new to me Steyr 7mm-08.
20" bbl, 44.00gn of H-4350, Lapua brass, Federal 210m primer, Hornaday 150gn ELD-X, 2606 ft/s.
3 shot group at 1038 yards, 6.25". why you shoot odd 1038 yards? and not a even 1000 yards? sounds a bit fishy one might say That is the distance from bench to target stand. No idea why it is that distance but it is over 1000 so that is all that matters. The load described is loaded the same care and techniques as my bench rifles. Actually I have 8 perfect brass,in all respects, out of a box of 100 Lapua's It is a deer rifle with a 6X scope (SWFA). It was shot in hunter class at our club shoot (for fun), winner put 3 into <3", rifle max. weight <10.5 pounds scope no more than 9X.
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I load for 3 rifles all of which are model 7 w/18" barrels and hit 1" or less at 100yds using 45gr imr4350 and 140gr nosler BT. I have recently started using reloader powder in some of my other rifles with really good results so next time I load for the model 7 I think I will try some in them.
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I've been using 48.5 grains of H4350 with a 140 grain Accubond in my wife's Rem 700 Mtn Rifle for a bit over 2800 fps and sub MOA accuracy. It's killed a bunch of animals up to elk size with no problems.
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I've been using 48.5 grains of H4350 with a 140 grain Accubond in my wife's Rem 700 Mtn Rifle for a bit over 2800 fps and sub MOA accuracy. It's killed a bunch of animals up to elk size with no problems. Good all-around load there. I shoot 48gr with a 140 for 2,700fps in a 18.5" barrel.
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I have a new to me Vanguard carbine with a 20" bbl that I will start experimenting with 120 & 140 gr bullets. I've noticed a lot of Big Game, RL 15 & 17; 4064, H -414, etc....Since we have to use Temp stable powders now, who has tried RL 16?
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Haven't tried RL-16 yet, but Big Game had been temp-stable in every cartridge I've tried it in so far, which includes rounds from the .243 Winchester to 9.3x62. Oh, and the 7mm-08.
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Thanks Mule Deer, I sure like the Ramshot powders. Is Big Game the best of the Ramshot stuff for being temp stable? I got some great loads in a couple cartridges with Hunter but I am concerned I could run into trouble in temp extremes, same for Magnum it work great in my "bob" with 117 Interlocks & 115 Partitions.
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C ROY,
Big Game has been the most temp-stable in my tests across a variety of cartridges, but Magnum has been pretty good as well in a smaller range of rounds--but it's more of a specialty powder than Big Game. Hunter tends to lose around 100 fps from 70 to zero in most rounds, but whether that makes any difference in POI depends on the rifle. TAC is VERY temp-stable in the rounds it was designed for, the .223/5.56 and .308/7.62, but not so much in cartridges outside that basic powder capacity/caliber ratio.
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I’ve killed deer elk and antelope with my 7mm-08 from snow to t-shirt temperatures. I saw no appreciable difference in velocity.
Big Game is all I use in 4 7mm-08 rifles, all Tikkas. Bullets include 120 BT, 120 TTSX, 140 Partition/Accubond/VLD, and 150 eldx.
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This load posted a 6.25" (3 shot) group at 1038 yards. [Linked Image]
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I wanted one load to do everything in my T3SL. Worked out to be 46 grains of H414 under a 154 SST. Accurate and kills fast.
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Just finished loading up a stash of 140 gr Accubond 2nds, over 48.0 grs of H4350. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/qMjXQNQF/20191209-154137.jpg)
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Seconds because of the red tip? They look like BTs.
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Yeah. Red tipped Accubonds as what they were advertised as. If really bt's? No matter, they kill. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/vHcpdxTJ/20191210-091202.jpg)
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I bought a bunch of blue-tipped 120 BT seconds a few years ago, half off first run price. Supposed to be red. I call them Blue Meanies.
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Mine's the same as many others here:
120 Nosler Ballistic Tip
45 gr. Varget
Lapua brass
Rem. 9 1/2 (I think)
3035 fps from a Dakota Model 97 with a 21" barrel. It's 1-for-1 on 150 lb. whitetails. Shot was quartering toward me at 175 yards and the deer went straight down.
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140gr Sierra Pro Hunter #1910
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Not a barrel burner fast load (2800fps??) but great accuracy and performance on deer, but after using Barnes 150gr TTSX in .308 this season I'm thinking about trying them in 7mm-08 too.
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44gr varget and 120nbt for me
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120 NBT over Varget seems about the most popular 7-08 load.
Last year, I had just put my 7-08 together, didn't have time to work up loads, so shot my buck with 120 NBT factory ammo.
Factory load shot 1", no problem doing what needed doing. Chest shot deer ran 50 yds and piled up still in sight. Good internal damage and exit.
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Has anyone tried Accurate 2460 in 7mm-08? It looks like it gives pretty good velocity for the 120-140 grain weights. Maybe 2460 is too temperature sensitive compared to the tried-and-true powders. I have a couple pounds of the Belgian-made stuff.
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Has anyone tried Accurate 2460 in 7mm-08? It looks like it gives pretty good velocity for the 120-140 grain weights. Maybe 2460 is too temperature sensitive compared to the tried-and-true powders. I have a couple pounds of the Belgian-made stuff. Looking at the burn rate chart, I'd think 2460 may be a bit fast for the 7-08. Varget is great with 120's, and it's a good bit slower than 2460. Big Game, RL-16, RL-17, 4350. etc. and now StaBALL are all slower than Varget and they seem to be in the preferred range for 7-08. So, temp sensitivity may not be the main issue, or even an issue at all, with 2460. DF
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I have a new to me Steyr 7mm-08.
20" bbl, 44.00gn of H-4350, Lapua brass, Federal 210m primer, Hornaday 150gn ELD-X, 2606 ft/s.
3 shot group at 1038 yards, 6.25". why you shoot odd 1038 yards? and not a even 1000 yards? sounds a bit fishy one might say Your couch smells fishy Yep made my ignore list
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Anyone have experience with the 160s... Sierra, Speer, Hornady?
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I've read several comments by John Barsness about fine results on deer size game with the 160 Sierra Game King and the 7x57. Couldn't be much different in the 7-08.
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I've read several comments by John Barsness about fine results on deer size game with the 160 Sierra Game King and the 7x57. Couldn't be much different in the 7-08. Pretty much a wash. SGK’s are generally very accurate. DF
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Yes, think I`ve read his comments. Was just asking, cause all most all the "pet" loads for the 7-08 seem to revolve around the lighter bullet weights. I don`t own one.. do have the 7x57 tho, and use the 160s in it with very good results.
Both cartridges being of similar ballistics, thought it interesting not many heavy bullets were listed for the 7-08.
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I once had a 7mm/08 that I killed alot of stuff with. I loaded 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips over 42 grains of BL-C2. Later started using Varget at 43 grains when the BL-C2 ran out. Straight arsenic.
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I have topped out so far in the 7-08 with the 150 gr. Ballistic Tip. The load I worked out got more velocity by a little than I got from the same bullet out of my 7x57 and Brass is far easier to get.
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I like 140s and 160s over varget. I can always make them shoot well enough
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My 7-08 doesn’t like 140 NPT but shoots 150 NPT sub MOA.
It shoots the 140 SGK HPBT half MOA.
I’m sitting on a tripod stand in open woods. Still, cool, foggy morning. 7-08 loaded with those SGK’s over Varget.
All I need is a fat doe or a cull buck.
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Sounds like the 7-08 guys are learning what the 7x57 guys already knew, that the "Pet Load" does not have to be the hottest nor fastest load.
There is already enough caliber, bullet weight and bullet construction to handle most intended purposes.
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Yeah, the 7-08 can for sure be an "equal opportunity" round, shoots a lot of combos very well.
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Wife's starting load in an A-bolt Micro 20" barrel was 139gr Interlock over 48g H4350. Killed nicely and recoil was bigly bearable. Later I drank the 120gr Ballistic Tip kulade and having traded into a bunch loaded them up over 40gr RL15. She shot only one buck so far; quartering to at 60 to 70 yds with bullet entering base of the neck and blasting a big hole where part of the neck spine used to be. Whatever was left of the bullet stayed there along with many bone fragments and I suppose bullet fragments though they were vaguely identifiable. Total penetration 5" or so. However statistical data was gathered from a very dead deer. Still didn't quite like the results.
This year we have been able to evaluate 2 more bucks downed with the 7-08 120 BT combination. Wife's load was still the 40 gr RL15 and with it she downed a 125lb spike buck due to mistaken identity in the thick stuff. Broken shoulder above elbow on entry and exit thru off shoulder without hitting bone. No bullet material recovered. Deer down on the spot with but a wiggle. Finally I managed to blood the Model 7 Stainless I've had for a while on a 155 lb buck. Chasing a doe past my ladder stand at about 15 feet and I finally caught up with him at around 20 yards quartering sharply away and slightly downhill. 120 BT and 45gr Varget. Bullet entered just right of the spine several inches behind the last rib. Though no bone was hit, that last rib was blown off about an inch and a half off the spine. Around 4 or 5 inches of loin was just gone. A couple inches of steaks fore and aft of the void were severely shredded. The stomach caught whatever remained of the bullet. Lungs were on what should have been the bullet tract but showed signs only of shrapnel wounds, and precious few of them. So far what this experience had told me is that the 120 BT acts best at less than max velocity in a 7-08. However, this particular deer moved little after he stopped tumbling. Many have flown from the barrels of such things as the 7'm Mag but I personally would not care to use headstamps with that velocity potential. This kill was just nasty. Impact side from shoulder to ham was bloodshot in addition to the muscle damage described. In addition this admittedly small sample has shown gut material to be a real obstacle to penetration.
But I really like the little rifle I'm using. Had some 120gr TSX bullets bought just before the tipped version was released. Somehow an example had never been bloodied. Figgering on a load that would approximate velocity of the BT/Varget being used, I loaded 48g of CFE223 under the TSX. Seems I recently read JB's comment on a slight distrust of the small hollow point on the TSX and other monometals without a "tip" of some sort added. Looking over the .284 TSXs I had the same feeling. In the interest of scientific experimentation I decided to use the factory hollow point as a pilot hole. Using a 1/16' drill bit with a marker tape 1/4' up from the tip I just drilled them out a bit. Enlarging the hollow point shaft shortened the bullet a bit beyond the 1/4" depth marker but to seemingly no detriment.
Shortly thereafter I had the opportunity to field test the modified Barnes. An old grey faced, wide 4 pt with no brow tines, but 150 lbs of body weight made me an offer I couldn't refuse. At 75 yardish I knew when the trigger broke I was a little forward. Performance was crazy. The entry point on the near shoulder bone was wide and filled with small bone fragments and bone meal. Most plumbing was removed from the top of the heart before continuing on to carve an X in the chest wall exit including a rib. The offside shoulder bone was pretty much a duplicate of the onside with the addition of one petal from the bullet being recovered. Buck made one lunge, collapsed, twiddled his tail a couple times and called it a day. Meat damage and bloodshot area was much less than with the 120 Ballistic Tip though bone destruction was in a different class. Soooo.....in my little world we will continue to use the 120 BT at a mid to low velocity load in my wife's rifle. But for the Model 7 the modified 120 TSX has made a real impression on me and I will continue with them until the 25 or so left are gone.
Circling back to the Pet Load bit I'd have to say the 139 Interlock over 48 or so gr of H4350 will be a hard act to beat if we consider performance, accuracy, and economy. Tough combination. Averaging in my son's success with his red pad 77 in 7x57 the 140 Accubond certainly has to be respected. Pretty hard to find a truly bad bullet powder combination for hunting in the 120 to 160 gr bullet weight range using proven powders. Dang nice round and some dang nice rifles to house it.
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My 7-08 doesn’t like 140 NPT but shoots 150 NPT sub MOA.
It shoots the 140 SGK HPBT half MOA.
I’m sitting on a tripod stand in open woods. Still, cool, foggy morning. 7-08 loaded with those SGK’s over Varget.
All I need is a fat doe or a cull buck.
DF Just killed a doe with this load. In and out thru chest. Exit hole not that large. She ran 30 yds. Good blood sign, although didn’t need to track. Will report internal damage from skinning shed. DF
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Massive internal damage, small entrance, larger exit with hematoma.
Good WT bullet.
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Good for you.
Sounds like you had a good day hunting.
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Good for you.
Sounds like you had a good day hunting. I did. Shot that doe at the last minutes of legal light. I had to crank the 3-9x40 Conquest down to around 5 power to pick up enough light to see. It was too dim at higher power. Conquest plex reticle is great, easy to see in dim light. I had a good rest in the box stand, got off a solid shot. I couldn’t see anything as the gun recoiled. Walked right to the deer, 30-40 yds in the woods. She’s now hanging in the cooler. Gonna get up in the morning early, get on a double seat tree stand overlooking a bayou. Morning hunts generally not as good as evening hunts. But ya can’t kill anything sitting at the camp. Maybe a hog will get unlucky. Got something for him. DF
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I recently drug a SC made M70 Fwt 7-08 out of the safe where it had been hidden for several years. It's a little on the temperamental side and I had been concentrating on my 250 Savages and 257 Roberts for a while, so it took a back seat. I had taken a few deer with the 120 BT and 139 Hornady flat base over Varget with good results when I first got it. After reading Pharmsellers results with Big Game and Mag primers I tried them with the 120s with good results, but then put it up.
I got to wondering about the 139 Horn load so I worked up to 47 gr Big Game with some old Wolf Magnum primers and after playing with seating depth a bit found a winner. Last two 3 shot groups were 3/4" and 7/8". Yes I know it's 3 shots, but that's good enough for this ol man.
Thinking about taking it along on an upcoming hog hunt.
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As one can see from this thread, the 7-08 is a very versatile round. To me it’s about ideal for general hunting. I like mine.
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I killed 9 deer this year, all but 2 have been killed with my 7-08 with either a 120 BT or 150 eld x.
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Last years buck was with factory 120 NBT. Similar performance as the 140 SGK HPBT, pass thru with good internal destruction and blood. The SGK may have been a bit more destructive, big hematoma at exit wound, not much at entrance. Handloaded SGK a tad more accurate. Factory 120 NBT, MOA. 140 SGK half MOA.
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We have been thinning the does cause TWRA wants to take glands and checking for CWD. So far we have 332 positives for CWD in Tennessee. It's not looking good but so far on my lease we don't have any positives.
With a liberal limit I can test several bullets for performance and the 120 BT and 150 eld x have been tops. This is the last weekend and I'm headed out this afternoon with my 7-08.
From my experience the SGK is also awesome on deer especially if you're using subpar caliber like a 243 where exit holes tend to be smaller. 100 gr SGK in a .243 is poison.
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I’m wanting to get a ballistic tape for my Conquest elevation turret. I need to settle on a bullet and load. Contenders are 120 NAB at 3K fps, the 140 SGK HPBT and 150 NPT, all of which shoot well in this gun
Trajectories will be different. Gotta decide which one I’ll be happiest with for WT’s and hogs.
Decisions, decisions. Enough to drive a Loony, loony.
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The first centerfire rifle I bought for my son was a 7-08 when he turned 9. He is almost 23 now and will often break out the 7-08 because it flat out works. He has killed a truck load of deer and hogs with the 95gr BT over 45 grs of Varget. Never caught a bullet. We are getting 2990 fps out of a 20" barrel.
We shot steel plates with it out to 550 yards. It is an off the shelf Browning micro medallion. No modifications.
I just bought an older Rem Varmint Master with the heavy 24" barrel in 7-08. His rifle sure sold me on that cartridge.
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I’m leaning toward setting up the Conquest turret for 140 SGK HPBT. It’s not the fastest or flattest shooting but is the most accurate. And for chest shooting WT’s probably the most expansive. Will work on hogs. Not the most popular but I like it. And most shots are 200 yds or less. The turret will allow longer shots if needed on hogs and such out to 400 or so. Would not shoot a deer that far. I have other rifles for LR stuff, this one for general hunting locally.
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The 140 SGK HPBT is my bullet of choice in the 7mm-08. I actually like it WAY more than the 140 NBT, and I’m a big fan of the NBTs as a whole.
DF, for your needs I think your choice is perfect!
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The 140 SGK HPBT is my bullet of choice in the 7mm-08. I actually like it WAY more than the 140 NBT, and I’m a big fan of the NBTs as a whole.
DF, for your needs I think your choice is perfect! Thanks for your experience and opinion. It confirms my thinking. In a few minutes, I'm gonna wrap cubed tenderloin, jalapeno and cream cheese with bacon and grill, courtesy of a 140 SGK HPBT.. Meat on this fat, 120# doe looks really good. The rest of it is on ice in my truck, headed for the processor tomorrow. I've kept meat on ice for several days. Coming from NM with pronghorns, we'd drain the water and add ice periodically. This deer was in the cooler over night, meat was cold when it went in the ice. Not that much water to drain.. Pronghonrs went in the ice chest right after skinning. We always take ice chests full of ice when we hunt them. Skin'em quick, cool'em quick and you have great meat. "Stink goat" not in my vocabulary. Us Cajuns do know how to take care of meat. DF
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Put a VX 3, 2.5-8 with B&C reticle on my 7-08. Shot it Saturday. 1st shot from bore sighting is on the right. Moved too far, but moved back right after group. Happy with group from 140 gr Accubonds, and a max charge of H4350. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/90jn49dt/20200104_190733.jpg)
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How you like that B&C reticle?
I had a Swaro 6-18 with TDS reticle that I used pronghorn hunting. With 2nd focal plane, you gotta be at max power for it to be accurate, unless you want to do some calculations. I had problems with that scope at 18 power, holding steady enough to shoot that goat. Finally got him at near 400 yds.
When I got home, I sold that scope, went to turrets. Maybe your max power of 8X would be OK.
Just wanting your take. Ballistic reticles can be faster than turrets, for sure. Most time, I can adjust holdover, unless at longer range, then I usually have time to twist.
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The B&C reticle or DLR reticle serves me well. Here lately I tend to like the DLR reticle better on a 6x42, it's quick and very handy. Killed 9 deer using it this year from
ranging from 50-400 yds.
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The B&C reticle or DLR reticle serves me well. Here lately I tend to like the DLR reticle better on a 6x42, it's quick and very handy. Killed 9 deer using it this year from
ranging from 50-400 yds. On a fixed power, not an issue with power change and calculations. Lot of folks like the 6x36 and 6x42, the latter harder to mount due to shorter tube. I don't have either; may need to look into that. DF
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This is my 2nd B&C reticle scope, and another in 3.5-10, inbound. My 1st, a 3.5-10 Vari X III, I had the B&C put in, is on a custom 280ai I had Benchmark Barrels build for me. I've shot 2 cow elk, and 2 Oryx with that combo. I'm shooting 140 gr Barnes ttsx's. Both elk were at a little over 300 yards, so I just had to use the standard crosshair intersection. The 1st Oryx was at 693 yards, but uphill. Because of the angle, I used the 550 yard aiming dot, and crushed it in the right shoulder, with it exiting, just behind the left shoulder. I have it sighted in for a 300 yard aiming. Was I lucky ? Probably, as I wasn't sure of the angle to compensate. The 2nd Oryx, was offhand at 184 yards. Dead on hold, a little low. With these 4 examples, was twisting a turret better ? No, a 3" inch high at 100, @dead on at 300, would have worked the same with a standard duplex/crosshair. Time to twist a turret to get 300 from zero at 100, not really. Shots happened pretty quick. Had I twisted to 693, I would have over shot. Experience from shooting elk in Colorado at long range, and using a ballistic calculator, told me to hold high with the 550 dot. How much to twist ? I didnt have time to look anything up while following the Oryx up the mountain. I have learned with my 280ai, that I can hit 18 inch plates at 700, and 800. At say, 700, a known lasered distance. Hold the the thick to thin point on the plate. That is your 600 yard aiming point. Look at where the 500 yard hash is pointing at. It's kinda Kentucky windage shooting but it works. Get a definitive aiming spot, and raise the the thick to thin point to aim at where the 500 yard hash was on. Send it before things change. Same applies to 800, but you'll need to practice to see how much to add for a bit more drop, with using the 400 yard hash. I like the reticle enough to start changing many scopes over to it. I dont need anything over 10x to shoot 1k, and a bit over. Just make sure your target is wider than the thickness of a duplex reticle when holding for wind ! I learned the hard way on a coues deer ! I'm trying out a SS 10x with mils on my LR 7mm RM. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/JzswZzSw/56520cd1.jpg)
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I really like my Conquest plex reticle. At no time in a dim light situation could I not see it clearly. As I wrote earlier, it was so dark (last minute of legal shooting time), I had to crank the scope down to pick enough light to see the deer. The reticle was always there.
How prominent is the B&C at dim light?
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Forgot to add, nice rifle.
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Thank you.
I'm not real sure ?
I haven't tried it to be honest.
I'll look with my 2.5-8 after it gets on towards dark.
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My newest VX 3, 3.5-10 came in !
Looking around at dusk, I'm going to say the B&C is going to be pretty useless for distance shooting, but is still useable as a regular reticle for closer in shots.
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The extra aiming points are tougher to see in the last 5 minutes or so of legal light, when using the B&C or LRD. Having said that, when lighting gets to that point it is often difficult to really see a deer very well at 300/400 yards anyway. By that point, you can tell it’s a deer, but picking a good shot placement is a low-odds affair at those ranges. The center section of the reticle is generally useful for closer shots at those times, like a regular duplex.
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I’m running 49 grains of Big Game under a 120g NBT getting 3050 FPS from a 22” new tube. No pressure indicators and extremely accurate out of my rig.
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Really like the B&C, and it works great for what I'm doing with it. I wouldn't even think of shooting distance in poor light anyway.
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Really like the B&C, and it works great for what I'm doing with it. I wouldn't even think of shooting distance in poor light anyway. How about in dim light, not LR, but up close? DF
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Up close is fine, just like the regular duplex in the VX3.
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Here are MidwayUSA reviews on the 7mm 140 SGK HPBT. You don't often see all 5 star reviews.
In the 7-08, this is my favoite WT bullet. And I'm a big Nosler fan; second fav is the 120 NBT at 3K fps.
This Sierra bullet seems about optimal regarding accuracy, destructive wound channel with impressive exits. In fact, the last WT I killed showed a 2" chest cavity exit wound with a 5" diameter hematoma outside the chest cavity.
Check it out..https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010527363?pid=752706?pid=752706
For some reason I can't get it to underline and activate with a click. Highlight and paste link.
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Thanks, Brad.
Wondering what I didn't do...
Now, my opinion on that bullet is for 7-08, 7x57 speeds.
For the 7RM, I like 160 NAB over RL-26 at 3K or so.
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Thanks, Brad.
Wondering what I didn't do...
You've got to add [url][/url] at the beginning and end of the address.
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160 gr Accubond over 66.0 grains of rldr 22 for a little better than 3k in my 7 mag.
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My 7-08 likes 47 gr of H-380 with a 140 gr Barnes TSX. approx. 2900 fps
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My 7-08 likes 47 gr of H-380 with a 140 gr Barnes TSX. approx. 2900 fps Never used H-380 in my 7-08, good one for the 338-06. I’ve used Varget and BG mostly. The 140 SGK HPBT really does well with Varget. DF
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160 gr Accubond over 66.0 grains of rldr 22 for a little better than 3k in my 7 mag. That might be a bit warm for a 7-08
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As in a comparison load to Dirtfarmers rldr 26 recipe.
As for the 7-08, just fill a case, scrape it look level, and crush it in there til it fits.
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Yep, it might even be as good as a Glock. ![[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/71/e5/a771e580adfb81bad39b2bbc3a4e15f5.jpg)
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My observation of the 7-08 on the Campfire over the last 20 years is it’s likely the top “hotrodded” cartridge. Some seem incapable of accepting its limitations and are constantly on the prowl for the next wunder-powder to turn it into a 280 (or more).
What the 7-08 does is launch a 140 grain bullet at 2,820 +/- from a 22” barrel. A couple powders will make it faster, but often with less accuracy.
If you want more, get a bigger engine. The 7mm SAUM or WSM come to mind.
In this day of BDC reticles and turrets, I struggle to understand how the 7-08 isn’t an ideal NA BG round within its limitations.
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Just another Glock KaBoom. I pretty much agree with Brad. I don't hotrod anything. If I need more speed or power I'll go to a bigger engine. I don't really need it from any of my rifles or handguns. The 7/08 seems like it will make me happy, for a while at least. Just want to do a few more tweaks to the rifle itself.
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In this day of BDC reticles and turrets, I struggle to understand how the 7-08 isn’t an ideal NA BG round within its limitations.
Wait, you’re saying it’s not?
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Brad,
Exactly.
The load most frequently used in my 7mm-08s for the past 15 years or more gets somewhere in the low 2800s in the rifle purchased 4-5 years ago, a tang-safety Ruger 77 Ultralight, which was rebarreled with a #1 contour Douglas by somebody who knew what they were doing, 47.0 grains of Big Game with a 139-140 grain bullet. Depending on the bullet, it gets 2800-2850 at the muzzle, and like the 7x57/.275 Rigby kills all sorts of big game if pointed right. (Have also used 50.0 grains of H4350, but on average BG has been more accurate, and a lot less crunchy and hence likely to push longer bullets forward sometime after seating.)
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Yep, it might even be as good as a Glock. Hooooly Cow!! That looks like a case full of Bullseye, some C-4 starter, and a couple of bullets already in the barrel. Having a couple of Glocks myself can you give any more data about the circumstance of this experiment??
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It's not just hand loaders.
I had some Hornady 139 grain Light Magnum factory ammo that listed 3000 fps on the box and made it with a 24' barrel. I also had some Winchester 140 grain ammo that was hot.
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That was just a random pick off the net. Google Glock Kaboom, there are lots of stories and pics.
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That was just a random pick off the net. Google Glock Kaboom, there are lots of stories and pics. Campfire loads?  DF
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I don't have a 7-08 ....YET! But I have a 7x57 that I'm about to work up a load for a 140 grain bullet of some flavor. It's in a 98 action so it's strong enough for modern pressure level loads. Does a 7x57 use the same powders as the 7-08? I know the case holds a couple more grains water than the 7-08 so it should hold a bit more powder. But is it enough to make a practical difference (like a couple hundred FPS more than the 7-08 )?
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A Sierra Pro-Hunter 120 gr. #1900 over 42.5 grs. of Varget has been my deer load for several years.....very accurate and never fails to put meat in the freezer. Hello Brother, Lavaca, 36 Port Lavaca Texas. Love Sierra bullets.
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My pet load, safe in MY former 7/08s were:
RP fireformed brass, partial sized
139 Hornady SP and 140 Nosler BT.
45.0 Varget or IMR 4064 (yes a grain or 3 over some manuals 'max' from memory)
I ran 2960 in 21" 700s (Stainless and a CM Varmint). and 2850 in a 20" Win M70 carbine.
Again, Safe in MY RIFLES..........so folks may want to look at 40 gr to start, and may top at 42-43 but every handloader must decide from experience and pressure signs that their rifle is telling them, what is safe......I do realize my loads were warm, but they were accurate and safe in MY rifles.
That said WW brass holds about 1.5 grains MORE than RP brass......and is worth considering, FC brass on the other hand IIRC holds LESS capacity than RP.
As always start low, and work up safely, in YOUR Rifle........
If I load the round again, I would look at some of the latest powder recommendations, but don't believe there is any more to be had velocity wise. 4064 DID edge out Varget in my rifles for accuracy. Speed was same same IME.
I would shoot for 2800-2850 in 22-24" barrels as a good safe performance level. Again, I was over book max with my loads.
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This has been a helpful thread thanks; I agree w/ Brad & JB’s assessment of this cartridge.
I just traded into a lovely Model 70 Classic Featherweight in 7-08 that is shooting 168 GR Nosler Custom Comps with WLRMs, LC90 brass, and 44 GR of RL17 or IMR4451 into little bug holes.
I have to admit the look of the loaded cartridges with COAL JUST able to run through the mag is a thing of beauty. Gonna have to try the 168 GR Berger Classic?
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