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These three pieces serve basically the same purpose.
For you guys that have used these what are the pros and cons of each ?

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I've owned both the R1 and Heavyweight Core, can't comment on the Peloton. I think the Core and R1 are pretty close to being the same thing, minus the camo option for Sitka. Weight is almost identical, the large Polartec grid is almost identical as well, even the fit is very close.

Both make a really good mid-layer on the move in colder temps, in warmer weather they could easily serve as an insulating piece. The hood on both is excellent. The fit on both is athletic (trim).

The Heavyweight Core is a critical piece to my hunting clothing system.

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Can offer no comparison but the heavyweight core is a really warm piece. I picked it up last summer and hunted in it around 20 days this past season. Its now essential in my mid-to-late season garb.

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I have a couple of the R1 with hood and really like them.
Very versatile and can be purchased on sale in muted colors.

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an ode to the R1 smile

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Earlier you said the core heavyweight & R1 were pretty close to being the same thing.
Why do you prefer the R1 ?

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I don't have a preference. I use the Sitka Heavyweight for hunting (open country pattern)

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I have a couple of both. For me, the heavyweight core , is almost too much. I ski in it mostly. The R1 seems a bit lighter , less warm , but maybe it's cause it's pretty old.


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My partner has on a R1 today. My heavyweight core is significantly longer in the torso than the R1, meaning I can pull it down I like that because I always feel like my pack pulls the back of my upper layer up. Does that make sense?

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What about the differences between the regular old R1, R1 Techface, and the R1 Pullover? Curious if the Techface is worth trying.

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the Techface is basically a soft-shell jacket- an R1 w/ a wind/water resistant shell fabric; personally I think it defeats the purpose of the R1- a highly breathable mid-layer; if you need protection from wind/moisture- simply don a windshirt or hardshell depending on the weather

the additional layer of the Techface will hamper breathability when you don't need the extra layer

all of my R1's have been the pullover, jacket just adds a full zip

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I have been hiking and Mtn Biking lately in either the R1 or Peleton 240 over a synthetic T-shirt. Like them both, a lot. The R1 is a bit more breathable and has a softer feel to it. Very comfortable for daily wear. However with the breathability it lacks wind protection. Very noticeable on the mtn bike. The 240, somewhat surprisingly, dries faster. Not sure how, but it seems to move moisture a little better. I noticed my t-shirt under the R1 stays damp a bit longer after a hike and the R1 definitely has stayed damp longer than the 240. I’ll keep wearing them and see if that holds true.

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Tried Paul's idea and wore the Peleton 240 instead of R1 or Sitka Heavyweight over FL Aerowool base layer. It was 30 up high in the Smokys today (above 4000 ft). I did sweat on the uphill parts of the hike but not excessively. We did an extended break to eat and didn't get cold either. The Aerowool/Peleton 240 dried pretty quick. For today's conditions and temps, I'm glad I had the Peleton 240 instead of thr R1. It was cool enough that the Peleton 240 was likely a better choice. I can see the 240 becoming a permanent part of the mid layers. Thanks for tip!


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Cool!

I’m a fan of the 240. I’ve learned to appreciate the wind blocking capability and the resulting consistent feel it provides.

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I wear the 240 over a 130 and like that combo a lot. Haven't had them in the mountains yet, as they are replacements for capilene and some unbranded high tech fleece. Have worn them hunting in Michigan and also antelope in Wyoming. I very much like the kuiu products over tried. I've not tried the others for comparison.


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You guys are selling me on the idea of adding a 240 peloton. Does it breathe well enough without pitzips?

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Spent the weekend in the smokys. Temps were low 30s in the AM, mid 50s in the PM up high. Wore a FirstLite Aerowool next to skin, a light fleece shirt, and 240 Peleton over all. Was really a comfortable combination. I shed the 240 after an hour or so of hiking and steeper grades. We also had a breeze up high. Slipped the hood over my ears when we reached high points. Took a nap at 5000 feet elevation at lunch - after slipping the 240 back on. The 240 is really good cool/cold weather layer.


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I haven’t worn mine but twice so far , but so far I’m pretty impressed.
It is very thin for its warmth , and is very stretchy not to contain any elastic .
The hood fits a little different than most hoods .
Also not sure what to think about the verde 2.0 Camo yet , but we will see.
Overall I think this is gonna be a nice piece.

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Out of curiosity, what weight aerowool are you guys typically wearing underneath?

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I’m using the 200 wt 1/4 zip fuse

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I've never found anything heavier than 100wt fleece to breathe well enough for me, unless I am sitting dead still in very cold conditions. Guess that's why I prefer the R1 hoody to heavier stuff.

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Originally Posted by 340boy
I've never found anything heavier than 100wt fleece to breathe well enough for me, unless I am sitting dead still in very cold conditions. Guess that's why I prefer the R1 hoody to heavier stuff.


Question was about base layer. 200 wt aerowool is nothing like 200 wt fleece.

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I've never found anything heavier than 100wt fleece to breathe well enough for me, unless I am sitting dead still in very cold conditions. Guess that's why I prefer the R1 hoody to heavier stuff.


Question was about base layer. 200 wt aerowool is nothing like 200 wt fleece.
The Patagonia R1 IS a base layer, 100 wt fleece. I guess the Sitka is "aerowool"
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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I've never found anything heavier than 100wt fleece to breathe well enough for me, unless I am sitting dead still in very cold conditions. Guess that's why I prefer the R1 hoody to heavier stuff.


Question was about base layer. 200 wt aerowool is nothing like 200 wt fleece.
The Patagonia R1 IS a base layer, 100 wt fleece. I guess the Sitka is "aerowool"
Sorry for the misunderstanding.


Aerowool is Firstlite’s merino / synthetic blend base layer.

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I've never found anything heavier than 100wt fleece to breathe well enough for me, unless I am sitting dead still in very cold conditions. Guess that's why I prefer the R1 hoody to heavier stuff.


Question was about base layer. 200 wt aerowool is nothing like 200 wt fleece.
The Patagonia R1 IS a base layer, 100 wt fleece. I guess the Sitka is "aerowool"
Sorry for the misunderstanding.


Aerowool is Firstlite’s merino / synthetic blend base layer.


Got it. Now I understand. Thank you.


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Originally Posted by 340boy
The Patagonia R1 IS a base layer, 100 wt fleece. I guess the Sitka is "aerowool"
Sorry for the misunderstanding.


I rarely come across anyone wearing an R1 (or any 100wt fleece) as a base layer. Typically used more as a mid layer with a lightweight base layer underneath.

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I’d consider wearing an R1 as a base layer in really (really) cold weather, otherwise agree its most often used as a mid layer

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