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Re: Long range varmints Higginez #13624424 03/04/19
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,460 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,460 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Higbean Originally Posted by Jordan Smith 22 Creed, 7” twist, 88 ELD How fast are you pushing 88's in yours? I can't seem to get them running over 3,150 where as the 75's are cooking at 3,470 fps. At those speeds the 75's run neck and neck with the 88's to 1,100 yards and for varmints, I'd take the added velocity myself. Don’t have one yet, but that’s what I’ll be running when I do.

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Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13624542 03/04/19
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,381 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger
OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,381	Aren't the 22 Creed and 22-250 AI were very similar? And Alpha brass will fireform in the 22-250 chamber? “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Long range varmints Jordan Smith #13624572 03/04/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,272 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger
Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,272 Durham, CA	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Higbean Originally Posted by Jordan Smith 22 Creed, 7” twist, 88 ELD How fast are you pushing 88's in yours? I can't seem to get them running over 3,150 where as the 75's are cooking at 3,470 fps. At those speeds the 75's run neck and neck with the 88's to 1,100 yards and for varmints, I'd take the added velocity myself. Don’t have one yet, but that’s what I’ll be running when I do. Thats what I was gonna do as well. Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13624628 03/04/19
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,381 David_Walter OP Campfire Ranger
OP David_Walter Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 17,381	75 BTHP? “Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13624656 03/04/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,272 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger
Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,272 Durham, CA	No way. Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

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Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13626203 03/04/19
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,105 New Castle, CO C cobrad Campfire Regular
cobrad Campfire Regular C Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,105 New Castle, CO	I shot a 22-250 and 52 grain Amax's for years. It was pretty good out to around 450, but it didn't take a lot of breeze to blow them around past that point. I'm currently shooting the same rifle, a Cooper, with an 8 twist barrel and 75 grain ELD-M's. Took two prairie dogs last spring at 1127 and 1131 yards. These bullets buck wind pretty well.

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13741958 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242 G GoForBroke Campfire Member
GoForBroke Campfire Member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242	I'm building a 260 AI for 500-1000 yard varmint but ricochets might be an issue. As a sidenote look at the 22-53gr VMAX in 5.56 AR15. My HBAR gets 3200 fps. Run that in JBM and it should expand out to 575 yards in Montana's elevation. I'm going to look into another 22-250 with a 1-9 twist. I'll be concentrating on 53gr VMAX to 75gr ELDM.

Re: Long range varmints cobrad #13741987 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242 G GoForBroke Campfire Member
GoForBroke Campfire Member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242	Originally Posted by cobrad I shot a 22-250 and 52 grain Amax's for years. It was pretty good out to around 450, but it didn't take a lot of breeze to blow them around past that point. I'm currently shooting the same rifle, a Cooper, with an 8 twist barrel and 75 grain ELD-M's. Took two prairie dogs last spring at 1127 and 1131 yards. These bullets buck wind pretty well. There's a guy on here using the same twist in 22-250 shooting the 88gr ELDM. Frank at snipershide was using that bullet in the valkyre and shooting past a mile. But how can you argue with 1127 and 1131 yard PD's. Nice shooting!

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13742029 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska	Originally Posted by David_Walter Aren't the 22 Creed and 22-250 AI were very similar? And Alpha brass will fireform in the 22-250 chamber? Alpha 224 Kreedmire brass,is a nice way to reap 95% of a 22-250AI,prior to forming the case. 224 Kreedmire brass sized for positive headspace in one of my 22-250AI's on left...fired case of same Lot,to the right. NO go in a SALAMI 22-250 chamber,or close. Hint............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Long range varmints GoForBroke #13742045 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska	Originally Posted by GoForBroke I'm building a 260 AI for 500-1000 yard varmint but ricochets might be an issue. As a sidenote look at the 22-53gr VMAX in 5.56 AR15. My HBAR gets 3200 fps. Run that in JBM and it should expand out to 575 yards in Montana's elevation. I'm going to look into another 22-250 with a 1-9 twist. I'll be concentrating on 53gr VMAX to 75gr ELDM. Your Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude,is plum amazing. Congratulations?!? Now you can say you've "seen" a 260AI(24" Hart 8"). AICS binderless DBM magfed Smooches ala 147 ELD,whether forming or real. Pass the Lever' fueled 75gr Hornie HPBT's in the Krunchenticker,at 2800fps in an 18" or longer spout(I've a "few"). Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

IC B3

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13742179 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242 G GoForBroke Campfire Member
GoForBroke Campfire Member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242	I've seen plenty of firearms. You do have some nice rifles. But I'd rather see some rats, chucks, badgers and so on. I vote for a Remage or whatever in the 22-250 David. The chucks are getting active here in Eastern Oregon. In Idaho they been up for a month now. Your buddy is going to have a great time over there in Montana. That used to be one of the states in my sales territory.

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13742184 04/14/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska	James now has 224 Kreedmire spouts. When I last talked to him on the phone,he was asking me about freebore for same and I told him no more than .100" for me. Hint.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Long range varmints Jordan Smith #13749253 04/17/19
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,249 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger
Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,249 Cheyenne, Wy	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith 22 Creed, 7” twist, 88 ELD yup https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13751012 04/17/19
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter
Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	20” barrel on a 22 Creedmoor with the Ultra 7 on the spout would be a fun rig. Maybe more fun than the 243... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13751106 04/17/19
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,651 6491 Feet Above Sea Level Coyote_Hunter Campfire Outfitter
Coyote_Hunter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,651 6491 Feet Above Sea Level	Fast twist 6 or 6.5mm. Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE! No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's. A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13755139 04/19/19
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter
Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	Well, schidt. I just went and bought some Alpha brass last night... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13759097 04/20/19
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter
Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana	Will a 1:8 twist work with 88 ELDM and the 22 Creed? “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Long range varmints David_Walter #13759127 04/20/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,228 Paradise,Alaska	Only at Low Tide and below Freezing. Hint....................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Long range varmints Big Stick #13759248 04/20/19
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷 F fredIII Campfire Outfitter
fredIII Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,423 Wa west 🇱🇷	Originally Posted by Big Stick Only at Low Tide and below Freezing. Hint....................(grin) Below zero is the only reason that fat azz kid of yours don’t smell like a dead seal. Hint Last edited by fredIII; 04/20/19.

Re: Long range varmints Kimber7man #13759273 04/20/19
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,152 N.. Newaukum, Washington J Judman Campfire Ranger
Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,152 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by Kimber7man Will a 1:8 twist work with 88 ELDM and the 22 Creed? Or run 75's and rule the roost..... Hint Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

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