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I've always liked the Winchester 1895, and after rediscovering last year how much fun levers are to shoot, I find myself thinking about putting together a custom lever gun.
Find an 80's production Miroku 1895 in 30-06.
Re-barrel with a 1/2 octagon / 1/2 round barrel around 22-23"
Chamber in 9.3x62
Barrel band swivel, front sight(maybe banded?) rear peep.
Find a nice 2 piece blank and see if I could stock the 1895 (and also an old Stevens Favorite I had re-done) with it. Make the fore end svelte with a schnabel. Simple checkering pattern.
Kinda like T Roosevelts 1895.
Just kicking the idea around. Anyone done anything similar?
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Would be a very desirable and handsome rifle!!!!!! Very doable!
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Right! Not pimpish......just some nice character.
Looked up 1/2 octagon barrels and came back with McGowen. Reasonable rates I’d guess. Not sure how to contour such a thing?
No taper for octagon and straight taper for round? Straight for both?
Ive just got to thin the safe and maybe rob a liquor store. Hah!
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For what it is worth, I have two double rifles with McGowan barrels and am very satisfied with their accuracy. Both barrels on each rifle are sub minute of angle. My standard load for the Simson Suhl..405 WCF double is 300 grain bullets and they all shoot to the same point of aim at 2225-2250 fps velocity. My 400 grain hand loads at 2050 fps perform the same way; this my DG load.
The other double is a Beretta .45-70 and is also quite accurate with 300 grain bullets and well regulated. I have not loaded 400 grainers for it yet but will being trying that come spring time.
McGowan did a good job with the barrels.
Have fun with your custom rifle.
PS I am also an 1895 Winnie Fan and shoot a .405 - a proven DG rifle with 400 grain Woodies at 2076 fps.
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Love your project in a 35 Whelen.
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Why not a tapered octogon?
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It would add points for style to be sure
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Why not a tapered octogon? Don’t have a reason not to! I like em all! A tapered octagon could be really sweet! I got onto the 1/2 and 1/2 thing looking at Roosevelt’s lever guns. I emailed McGowen some questions. I’ll see what they have to say and maybe give them a call.
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A Turnbull color case receiver would look really sweet too. I know it's not original to the '95, but we're talking custom here. Oh, and don't forget the Climbin' Lyman! That's a "gotta have".
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I agree about the wheelen.
I think people in Alaska been doing this for decades.
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If you wanted to try out the concept on the cheap you could send it to JES and have the '06 barrel rebored and rechambered to 9.3x62
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A flat sided case coloredrecuever would be sweet! I’ll stick with blued though. Gonna have to cap the budget at some point.
I’m not a .35 cal guy. No real reason. Just doesn’t do it for me. I like the 9.3 or I’d leave it .30 caliber.
Sending it to Jes was my first thought! Now I’m pretty sure I need an octagon or at 1/2 octagon barrel. That of course led me to a nice piece of wood since the fore end likely wouldn’t work with the octagon barrel.
Lol. I’m starting to understand how these projects get outta hand!
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I'm building a custom Ruger No.1 and had my mind set on a half octagonal / half round barrel for that build as they look great. That was until I spoke to someone who mentioned that they don't shoot as well as either round or octagonal barrels. In the end I decided to go for a round barrel as shooting accurately was more important to me.
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I saw a nice 1895 in 30-06 yesterday. It was according to the sales person a Winchester that I assume was made in japan.
nice blue and wood but the sliding safety on the tang just did not belong, As a hunter it would be nice,
Priced at 1100 and some change.
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That seems to be around the going price. Have seen a couple on gun broker go for maybe a couple hundred less. I need to sell a Sako l61r before I jump at one. Anyone looking for a Sako?
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I have a Browning 1895 re-bored to 35 Whelen. It shoots great and the 35 Whelen (.358 cal.) doesn't give up much ballistically to the 9.3X62 (.366 cal.) I also have a Winchester 1895 DOM 1900 in 30 US (30-40 Krag). The blue has been replaced with grey but the bore is excellent, the action smooth and the wood is solid. It shoots great using the factory full buckhorn rear sight. Someday I'll run across a 1895 shooter in 405 WCF and I'll buy it.
I selected the Marlin 336 action and Douglas premium barrels.for my custom levers. I'm no gunsmith so the work was done by Ranger Point Precision (RPP).
My customs are chambered in 7-30 Waters, 25-35 Winchester, 219 Donaldson Wasp and 36 RPP. The 36 RPP is a wildcat developed by RPP using a shortened 35 Whelen case and .358 projectiles. The cartridge will push a 180 grain bullet 2800 fps and a 220 gr. bullet 2500 fps.
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Very do-able project.
And would make a very nice shooter I'm thinking.
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I'm building a custom Ruger No.1 and had my mind set on a half octagonal / half round barrel for that build as they look great. That was until I spoke to someone who mentioned that they don't shoot as well as either round or octagonal barrels. In the end I decided to go for a round barrel as shooting accurately was more important to me.
A half round / half octagon not shooting as well as a round or octagon. First of this I have ever heard. I have three in my collection and have not noticed any issues with accuracy. Anyone experienced loss in accuracy due to half round/ half octagon?
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