Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters .270 .30-06 one powder?

Have you gave RL-16 any thought? It's in the 4350 burn spectrum and is temp resistant.. Ive loaded it in my 280 and it does really well with 154 gr SST's. Alliant has some data with RL-16 and 180 gr '06 bullets..

Mule Deer said above......^^^^^


"Like many new Wonder Powders over the decades, apparently many people think Reloder 26 will do the same fantastic things for all cartridges as it does for 150-grain bullets in the .270, or heavier bullets in the .243, but I haven't found it all that flexible. Where it works, it really works, but it isn't a universal solvent. In fact, a quick check of .30-06 data didn't find any listings for 26 with 180's, and a lack of data generally indicates a powder isn't particularly suitable for that applicatiojns. I'd be inclined to try RL-23 instead."
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M D - I have a question or curiosity.

180 gr in 30-06 is a MID weight (imo) and not heavy for caliber. It 'seems' TO ME that Rl 26 'might' work pretty good in the 06.
I have NOT looked for loading data, understood. I would 'think' we could EXTRAPOLATE a safe starting place and NOT get in trouble.
I understand too low pressure can also be a problem but I'm NOT thinking of squib or plinking loads.

In your professional opinion do you think Rl 26 is TOO slow burning for the 180 gr in the 06 ?

Jerry

Re 19

When all else fails, Reloaders 17.

I agree, RL 16. 130's in the 270 and 150's with the 30/06. I like it in my 270's.

4350

Yep 4350..either one

4350. Hands down.

4895 will work too.

Surprised Re 22 hasn't been mentioned..Fantastic in both even if it is a little "sensitive"..

If you're not looking for the very last attainable FPS and want max accuracy, H-4831 will be damn hard to beat.

If you can find it try RL 26. I have 2 270s and one shoots 150 Partitions a little under 3000 FPS and the other having a 24 inch barrel gets 3040 FPS. My 22 inch 30/06 clocks 2860 FPS with 180 Accubonds. This is without any high pressure signs at all.

Regards Keith

Pass me the RL26...

I'm no gunwriter, but Go over to the nosler forums, guys over there loading 180's with rl26 and getting phenomenal results.. I use rl26 in my 06 with 200 accubonds and in my 270 with 145gr eld-x

Thanks all for the replies so far.

For what it is worth, .270/150 and .30/180 have very similar sectional densities (SD), .279 and .271 respectively. Since SD is effectively weight (or mass)/area, pressure is force/area, and Newton tells us Force = mass x acceleration, it would seem that similar pressure curves would give us similar accelerations and thus similar velocities. Now, the .270 has a bit more relative bore friction to overcome because the amount of bore circumference/area is a bit greater than for the .30-06. Having a bit higher SD, it also might require a bit more pressure to get similar velocity. This may tend to work out because the two cases hold close to the same amount and a full case (same charge weight) of the "perfect" powder should give a bit higher pressure curve in the smaller bore of the .270.

The upshot of all that mumbo jumbo is that is makes sense that for similar case capacities and similar SD bullets, there ought to be some powders that are suitable for each. That said, all the number crunching in the world isn't the real world.
Based on what I find in Gun Gack I, a bit north of 2850 is likely attainable with the .30-06/180, and maybe a bit more with the .270/150. I'm encouraged because I don't believe Mule Deer will publish "stupid hot" data.

I'm not surprised H4831, H4831sc, or Hunter was mentioned. I was wondering about R-26, but it seems the jury is still out on it.
If Dirtfarmer is serious about pulling my loony card (and I am not nearly as loony as many here), then if I need to I will go with a different powder in each. A pound looks like about 120 rounds. Even with practice, that is a good bit of shooting for big game rifles. On the other hand, it wouldn't take me long to go through 60 rounds of each, so I'm going to be buying more than a pound, that's for sure!

If it helps me hold onto my loony card, I did just spring for 8 lb. of TAC and a big pile of 50 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips to get to loading for a .223 A-Bolt Varmint BOSS (probably 1/12 twist) that I have owned a long damn time and shot far too damn little. Those Evil Black Rifles are fun, and some pretty accurate, but I find keeping up with brass and reloading it easier with a bolt gun.

H4350
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RL17

If that’s the choice, try RL-23; similar performance, better temp stability.

DF

H-4831

If you like 4350, you should be happy as well with RL 17......very similar burn rates. I’ve been very happy with RL 17 with the few cartridges I’ve used it in ! memtb

hmmm, sounds promising, thanks !







hmmm TWICE !

Veddy interesting PLUS on the Nosler forums you'd think there'd be some common sense too (?) .

At least I'd not be afraid to do some testing --starting BELOW max charges-- with Rl 26 and 180s in the 06.


You know what they say, " Great Minds and all "........ L O L !!

Jerry

Yes, RL 26 is a wonder powder for heavier bullets in both. 3000 fps is easy to attain in a 22" tube/ .270 wcf. RL 16 for the lighter bullets...I might sell all my 4831's and 4350's.