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#13645438 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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I'll be taking my 45-110 Sharps and the 550 gr PP Hindenburg's to our Silhouette - BPCR/HPRS competition this spring.

Most likely get my clock cleaned by some old 80 yr old fart but it'll be fun anyway ! grin


https://engc.us/disciplines/silhouette?page2731=3&size2731=5


You better be afraid of a ghost!!

"Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops






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#13645491 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Just be patient Woody, you'll be 80 someday. grin


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


#13646739 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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IIRC, one of the movie rifles was on display here at the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum some years ago; haven't been out there in a while, might not still be there.


"Jimmy, some of it's magic,
Some of it's tragic,
But I had a good life all the way."
(Jimmy Buffet)

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#13646761 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Lead, paper and Lord Black sure has gotten more technical over the last 150 years or so, right? laugh


No not really, the ones that shoot for tiny little groups and long range were very meticulous about how things were done. Then as now the ones that are ok with hitting something every couple of shots or so , not so much.


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#13647352 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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You mean ol' Billy Dixon was meticulous?

Dan

PS: Was being a little bit of a wisenhiemer re: "technical".


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


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#13647515 - 03/11/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Ol Billy bought a case (1000)of factory rounds for his new 44 the night before the fight.

Me too. smile


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#13648563 - 03/12/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Yup that is right, and then he left them at the store and went to the bar where he ended up using the bartender's big fifty to make good Indians out of bad ones. Guess he had to save his 44's for the buffalo huh? MB

#13648588 - 03/12/19 Re: Down under [Re: shrapnel]  
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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by Paul39
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by Paul39
Originally Posted by tmitch
Makes me cringe every time I see the Shiloh thrown in the dirt. shocked frown cry
wasn't the real one.

Actually it was a real Shiloh. Selleck came here to Montana to visit the Shiloh plant and spend some time with Mike Venturino to become more familiar with a Sharps rifle. They made 3 rifles, one to shoot and film, one to abuse and a third for a spare and close up filming.

Thanks for the clarification. I read somewhere that the "abuse" rifle had an aluminum barrel to make it easier to toss. Clearly they were all built by Shiloh.

Can you confirm?

Paul


I just called Kirk at Shiloh to confirm that there were 3 rifles made for the movie. Just as I said previously, there were 3 rifles made, one as the star of the show, 1 that got abused and the 3rd for close up pictures and as a spare if it was needed.

There were no aluminum barrels or rifles with aluminum barrels, just the 3 rifles that I described...


For the ultimate clarification:

I talked to Mike Venturino about this a couple days ago and he told me the real scoop. There WAS an aluminum barrel made for the gun used in the fight scene at the dock at the beginning of the movie. Evidently, when they were filming the fight, the gun was too heavy to manage and they went back to Shiloh, which at that time was owned by Wolfgang Droge, and he made the aluminum barrel for the Sharps he had already made.

Mike said he saw and handled the barrel. The producers sent Mike a copy of the script, which he had them change in the scenes I had previously mentioned. I hope this clears up some questionable aspects of the movie which is the reason for the tread in the first place...


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If you want to fit in with a new crowd, ask them if they know shrapnel. There is no friggin' way they won't know who that man is. He is the Chuck Norris of Montana and you will have a nice icebreaker to discuss.
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#13650287 - 03/12/19 Re: Down under [Re: FlyboyFlem]  
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Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
I'll be taking my 45-110 Sharps and the 550 gr PP Hindenburg's to our Silhouette - BPCR/HPRS competition this spring.

Most likely get my clock cleaned by some old 80 yr old fart but it'll be fun anyway ! grin

https://engc.us/disciplines/silhouette?page2731=3&size2731=5

I have shot BPCR silhouette at the ENGC and I'll be 80 by the time of the match, but I won't be there to put your prediction to the test, as I moved far away. You might run into my son, though.

You can most certainly have fun, but a .45-110 will be lonely beast at a silhouette match. To steal a line from Matthew Quigley " I never had much use for one". I have done respectably in long range BPCR with a stoked up .45-70, meaning paper patched bullets seated way out over 80 grs. of Swiss 1/2. Billy Dixon match at steel Comanches at 1500 yards. Much fun!

Paul




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#13660741 - 03/16/19 Re: Down under [Re: Paul39]  
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Paul. I would welcome having you "clean my clock" just for the meet and greet smile ..I started this BP journey way too late in life and have no intentions of becoming a competitor just a hunter with a big fire stik however a silhouette match at least once has always been on my radar.

And with all the devastation from the flooding and repairing our deer camp house out West may not even make it to Meet..


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#13660807 - 03/16/19 Re: Down under [Re: DigitalDan]  
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Paul and chance you and Pete will be at Alliance in May?


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