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I must admit that I have never shot into a disked crop field at a mile, but have shot at many a rocky cliff face seldom seeing a splash with 224" or 6mm bullets at a mile, guess leica and Swaro don't make glass like they used to or mabey the soil is not as splashy to the south I don’t know what to tell you, man. Maybe you’re shooting at granite cliffs and I’m shooting at crumbly, porous rock. Maybe it’s a difference between the eyesight of myself/my shooting partners, and you and yours. One thing is for certain, it ain’t the alpha glass’s fault  I have the same experience as boatanchor.
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I must admit that I have never shot into a disked crop field at a mile, but have shot at many a rocky cliff face seldom seeing a splash with 224" or 6mm bullets at a mile, guess leica and Swaro don't make glass like they used to or mabey the soil is not as splashy to the south I don’t know what to tell you, man. Maybe you’re shooting at granite cliffs and I’m shooting at crumbly, porous rock. Maybe it’s a difference between the eyesight of myself/my shooting partners, and you and yours. One thing is for certain, it ain’t the alpha glass’s fault I have the same experience as boatanchor. +1 ![[Linked Image]](http://i68.tinypic.com/280ldlf.jpg)
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Sure do need a bigger target maybe a box car, was shooting a 6.5 PRC with 139 scenars, that's all I had loaded for it. think I will try my 300 Win mag in the morning before work, if there's not much wind. Rio7 The PRC/.697 BC melding,ala 147...is gonna be tough for a 300 Winny to hang with. No thang to spot .243's at said distance. Hint....................
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As I mentioned above, certain kinds of terrain make spotting misses with smaller bullets at extended distance (2000 meters, 1610 meters, 1000 meters, and even 500 meters with challenging background conditions) very difficult. By no means am I saying you can always spot your misses at a mile with small bullets. I’ve shot at a mile and beyond in various types of terrain, with various chamberings and bullets.
I’m simply pointing out that the OP seemed to be able to see his splash in the dirt (in his AO) with a 139 Scenar at a mile just fine, so a bigger bullet isn’t needed to spot his misses. Needing a bigger gun isn’t the problem.
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Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps.
Hint..................(grin)
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No trouble spotting 308Win/208 AMax to a mile here. Splashes easily seen through the 10X Super Duper Sniper. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/xQOu8Rf.jpg)
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No trouble spotting 308Win/208 AMax to a mile here. Splashes easily seen through the 10X Super Duper Sniper. Indeed MM....and my eyes aren't as good as some. The only time I had trouble was the years it rained hard and soaked the ground. Impacts got kinda swallowed up in the wet, but even then I got maybe one in three. Good times!
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That gentle 20-40 mph 'breeze' dries things up fairly fast......grin
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True dat....
But I bet that no one would be seeing any impacts out there right now with at least a foot of snow on the ground.
Ya'll have had some pretty cold conditions up there in the last couple months.
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We are not having trouble spotting the misses, so far we having trouble seeing a hit. 10 of us put $5.00 bucks a piece in a coffee can first guy to get a confirmed hit on the pig gets the money and bragging rights, up till now it has not been serious but I think that's about to change. Rio7
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No trouble spotting 308Win/208 AMax to a mile here. Splashes easily seen through the 10X Super Duper Sniper. Shane, Seems I recall flinging some of those moly’d 208’s at those plates myself, and in subsequent years sending .224”, 243”, 6.5mm, 7mm, .338”, .510”, etc, bullets at those same plates. Good times! Hope all is well in your world!
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True dat....
But I bet that no one would be seeing any impacts out there right now with at least a foot of snow on the ground.
Ya'll have had some pretty cold conditions up there in the last couple months.
I'm sure NE MT has a ton of snow right now. We're buried in snow, over here in the 'banana belt'. It hasn't warmed up enough to start melting yet. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/r8mzOqA.jpg) Our backyard, a couple days ago, ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/I7BQf1c.jpg)
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No trouble spotting 308Win/208 AMax to a mile here. Splashes easily seen through the 10X Super Duper Sniper. Shane, Seems I recall flinging some of those moly’d 208’s at those plates myself, and in subsequent years sending .224”, 243”, 6.5mm, 7mm, .338”, .510”, etc, bullets at those same plates. Good times! Hope all is well in your world! Good times for sure! We're doing good here.
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I was shooting up in MI where the backstop was sandy. That soil swallowed bullets without so much as a burp!
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By no means am I saying you can always spot your misses at a mile with small bullets. Interesting.........earlier in the thread that's exactly what you were saying 
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By no means am I saying you can always spot your misses at a mile with small bullets. Interesting.........earlier in the thread that's exactly what you were saying Take a deep breath and let it go ...................
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By no means am I saying you can always spot your misses at a mile with small bullets. Interesting.........earlier in the thread that's exactly what you were saying Show me where.
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By no means am I saying you can always spot your misses at a mile with small bullets. Interesting.........earlier in the thread that's exactly what you were saying No he didn’t. Not one time.
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I was thinking about a 22 LR round travels a mile and half right? so why not a 22 lr for a mile shoot as was mentioned earlier.. think of all the gophers that would be in range at that distance. which bullet would be best? I think the HP would be the best.. what say you all...
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You don’t need a bigger gun, you just need to keep practicing at a mile. The further you go, the more critical your wind reading skills become.
My .243AI/105AM has outshot a .338LapuaAI/300Scenar at a mile, due to shootability, familiarity with the load and DOPE, and the ability to easily spot shots through the scope due to much less concussive blast at the shot. I could be wrong, but didn't you say "the ability to easily spot shots through the scope" when discussing shooting your .243AI/105AM at a mile?
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