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#13604645 - 02/26/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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This is a strange cartridge....................First,and foremost is that most folks think that it is a 223 necked up to ,357.This is not the case at all...................The case head is larger in the 350 L at .390 as compared to the 223 at .376.............so there goes the idea of cheap brass..................I just don't get it........maybe y'all do,but I don't

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#13608140 - 02/27/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: Oskerspap12]  
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Originally Posted by Oskerspap12
This is a strange cartridge....................First,and foremost is that most folks think that it is a 223 necked up to ,357.This is not the case at all...................The case head is larger in the 350 L at .390 as compared to the 223 at .376.............so there goes the idea of cheap brass..................I just don't get it........maybe y'all do,but I don't

When we *thought* it was .223 necked up, it made sense.
You are right, since it isn't, it don't.

Winchester screwed the pooch on this one!


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#13608178 - 02/27/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: Oskerspap12]  
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Originally Posted by Oskerspap12
This is a strange cartridge....................First,and foremost is that most folks think that it is a 223 necked up to ,357.This is not the case at all...................The case head is larger in the 350 L at .390 as compared to the 223 at .376.............so there goes the idea of cheap brass..................I just don't get it........maybe y'all do,but I don't


The Saami drawing says .378 case head.

https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/350-Legend-Public-Introduction.pdf


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#13633676 - 03/07/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: noKnees]  
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Originally Posted by noKnees
Originally Posted by Oskerspap12
This is a strange cartridge....................First,and foremost is that most folks think that it is a 223 necked up to ,357.This is not the case at all...................The case head is larger in the 350 L at .390 as compared to the 223 at .376.............so there goes the idea of cheap brass..................I just don't get it........maybe y'all do,but I don't


The Saami drawing says .378 case head.

https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/350-Legend-Public-Introduction.pdf


It does indeed, along with a 0.357 bullet diameter but a 0.355 groove diameter...

Wow, seems like there is so much misinformation floating around about this round and much of it coming from Winchester.

I'll reserve judgement to when actual production rifles and ammo are available as it seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing...


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#13641556 - 03/09/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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Indiana...............we can trim .35 rem to meet the state's PCR spec.
No straight wall case mandate.

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#13641941 - 03/10/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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If your living and or hunting in a straight wall only state where shots are generally under 150 yards you have likely spent your whole hunting life hoping some day you might get to hunt with a lighter weight bolt centerfire rifle that wont kick too much and that dont cost $45 a box or more for 20 rounds. You can split hairs all you want about this but this is a Good thing for those folks. No question about it.

If this gets offered in a few different affordable bolt action rifles you will see a bunch of 45/70’s hit the market as well as a bunch of folks making the move from their slugguns to this.

I currently hunt with a .444 in Ohio. I live in Florida but hunt up there every for 30 years every year. I also have a lease in Alabama and just gave one up in Florida. So I hunt in rifle states as well. As soon as I see a few more choices in rifles I will be seriously be considering getting one.

If you dont live in one of those states then it would likely be a little interest to you. Winchester didnt have your needs in mind. Plenty better calibers for you.


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#13642012 - 03/10/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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I live in Ohio and have several legal rifles to choose from. That's not going to stop me from rebarreled a CZ or Sako mini action into one of these. While I need it like a need another arm, what's a loony going to do?


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#13655799 - 03/14/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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Why aren’t you guys running lever action 357 mags with flexi-tip bullets?


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#13655992 - 03/14/19 Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: David_Walter]  
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I’m certain some folks are. I currently have and use a Marlin ‘94 in 44 mag; it’s a very nice handy, carry rifle. As to those bullets you mention, I assume you mean the Hornady FTX’s. Actually, running them through Horn’s ballistic program for the 44, 225-gr load, a nominal 1800 fps (rifle velocity), and their BC, it really adds nothing really useful in regards to a flatter trajectory and thus extended range in the 44 compared to a more typical 240-gr soft point, and I would assume that’s true for the 357 also.

#13665075 - Yesterday at 10:42 AM Re: The New Win .350 Legend. [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]  
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I use my 45-70 guide gun. Same for my buddy. My son will never know the abuse of shooting slugs. He somehow adopted my 1894 in 44....even after I bought im a 16in Henry in 44. I like the 45-70. 450Bm has never appealed to me. I don't foresee switching but with 2 more kids to go I have to imagine the recoil of the 350L in an AR with a suppressor would make for a pleasant hunting experience for them.

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