Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Why the hate for Vortex?

Ter 1 guys I have meet ain’t crazy about guys posting pics of them on the web. Just my experience.
PS if Vortex high end was like Leupold their logo would be a giant pussy with moist purple lips. And I would own a sticker at most.

To answer the OP question- they fail a lot and their lens quality is lacking. Perhaps it is the assembly process, but the ones I looked thru had a "cloud" around the lens when set at 6 to 7 power and up. When sent back they claimed, as another poster here mentioned, that the rings were torqued too tight, however, this was BS as they were professionally torqued to 25" pounds max. Scope they sent to replace it had the same "cloud" in it and according was sold. Eye relief was too critical or difficult to obtain at any power on them as well. They do have a great marketing plan (Replacement Warranty) and it is almost up there with "everybody needs a college education" that is pushed on us by our state universities/education system.

As to the poster that said "I’ve noticed that it’s very difficult to assess glass quality and user-friendliness/eyebox of a scope without having it mounted on a rifle. I’m not sure you gave those scopes a fair shake." Are you kidding me? If you cannot access these attributes with out mounting the scope you should just stay silent. Glass quality, field of view, eye relief, windage and elevation adjustment feel, and power ring adjustment tension can all be checked without mounting the scope.

If the lens quality is not good stay away from it and that is just one of the reasons to avoid Vortex. Also, that warranty does you no good if it fails in the field (I did see a nice pair of Vortex Binoculars that thad the eye pieces busted off- bet he wished he had purchased anything but that Vortex!) or if the lenses are crappy to start with.

I'm betting you've been nearly trampled by a mule deer or two when blowing on that thing.......just a guess...............

Most of their stuff is made in China nowadays.

If you're referring to the picture I posted it is a stock photo from a news story about US SOF in Syria and already all over the web.

A 5 second Google search will find it.

Please cite.

Thanks.

So much fail. You absolutely cannot accurately assess the glass quality, FOV, or ER of the scope without having it rigidly mounted in some sort of fixture, whether a rifle or otherwise.

Not the optics issued to the military.

Not sure but we poured an awful lot of concrete for them...it's a sizable facility.

Because it ain’t a LEUPOLD !

Yep.... those old mama does can get pretty aggressive toward a predator call on occasion.

Read what's printed on the box. Every bino now made there, including the Razor. They suck.

How do you hold your binos??

Probably to his ass.

I certainly don't pretend to accurately compare or assess binos while holding them free-hand. A tripod makes a huge difference.

A precursory impression while holding the scope in your hands is one thing, but to get serious about assessing it, you need to have it rigidly supported somehow. I'm surprised you guys are even contesting this. Anybody with even a smidge of experience looking through scopes in a sporting goods store, held in your hands, compared to looking through those scopes at the range with the scope mounted on a rifle, will know exactly what I'm talking about.

Ask MD or Ilya if they do their bino/scope assessments, brightness tests, resolution tests, EB testing, etc, while holding a scope in their hands or resting it on the back of the couch, or if they mount it in some sort of fixture.

You're going to fit in here really well while spewing that kind of verbal diarrhea. I'm guessing you're under 16 years old? Shouldn't you get back to your homework?

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Ive done it, its not ideal but its possible. While you may not be able to do anything scientific, you can certainly see differences. In fact, hand holding an optic gives me a pretty good idea on if one scope or another has a more forgiving eye box. Brightness and clarity differences can also be evaluated. Agian, not ideal but certainly possible. If I can mount it iIwll but Im typically looking through 3 or 4 at a time and dont really want to take scopes off my ther rifles, or mount the scope im looking at in rings.

Would you agree there are initial test you can do without mounting? Thats all I'm saying

Hey, You had a compliment from me. I figured you had a bit of a brain but with you head being up your ass that where the binocs would need to be held. Appears I made a mistake, but not in regards to where the binocs should be held.

Grab a Schmidt and Bender scope and look thru it and then look thru your Vortex scope and you will see that your Vortex is an inferior scope. Pretty easy test of optic quality and clarity...... You can take your time and mount if you want but the rest of will not need to do so.