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You don't get a pro-gun Congress when you have a Speaker or Majority Leader who is a member of an anti-gun party.




Dickhead; the NRA hasn't given any money to Nancy Pelosi ever. If your talking about Reed, he had an A rating at one time. So whats your point, other than trying to look like a dumbass?


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
What kind of excuse di you have for the NRAs support of GCA 68


Guess we're off the 1934 kick.

Now as for 1968...

In the 1960s, the people running the NRA (Franklin Orth was the president) decided to "make nice" with the liberals on gun control. They decided to go lightly on legislative stuff and move the NRA headquarters to Colorado Springs, and concentrate on training people to shoot in the Olympics. The ILA (NRA Institute for Legislative Actiion) run by Neal Knox, disagreed with this, as did many of us members. At the 1977 NRA annual meeting in Cincinnati, Knox and Harlan Carter organized a coup and KICKED OUT THE GUYS WHO HAD RUN IT SINCE 1968! The by-laws were changed to let members nominate directors by petition. The "Cincinnati Reforms" also adapted a "no compromise" position. And they didn't move to Colorado Springs to train Olympic shooters!

So you see, blaming the current leadership for anything that happened in 1968 is like blaming President Trump for something Obama did.

I repeat...Not only are our NRA leaders different people than in1968 but they KICKED OUT the leaders who were there in 1968.

Which is why we won the fights over registering ammo sales (got it repealed), "Saturday night specials," cop-killing bullets, the 1994 AR15 ban (which banned nothing at all), got about 45 states (starting in 1987) to pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws, got background checks to be instant instead of making you come back to the store a week later, got about 45 states to pass pre-emption laws (which, among other things, threw out Cleveland's handgun registration law), lost Al Gore the presidential election, lost the Democrats the House of representatives in 1994 for the first time in 40 years (according to Bill Clinton, that was the NRA's "fault"), and helped us in ways you can't even imagine.

Can't even imagine? Here's one. Our club bought 80 acres out in the country. The local farmers obkjected to the noise and tried to get an ordance passed banning shooting. The NRA sent a guy out with a dB sound measuring device. Guess what? They would have had to ban trucks on the Interstate a mile away. Duh. 20 years later the club is still shooting there.

So if anyone wants to rationalize not paying their fair share, find some other reason to bash the NRA.

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Originally Posted by TBREW401
Isn't it odd that all those who dislike the NRA, love all the things that the NRA has done for gun owners??
Yeah, the ones who are not members--



I am a member which gives me all the right to bitch about how they continue to support the squandering away of our rights


Pray tell.me just specifically what the NRA has done for gun owners. And making compromises is doing good


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lost Al Gore the presidential election, lost the Democrats the House of representatives in 1994 for the first time in 40 years (according to Bill Clinton, that was the NRA's "fault"), and helped us in ways you can't even imagine.




The NRA was blamed for gore and Kerry's loss

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I am a member which gives me all the right to bitch about how they continue to support the squandering away of our rights


Pray tell.me just specifically what the NRA has done for gun owners. And making compromises is doing good


Good on ya' for being a member. If there;'s something you don't ike, that gives you the right to espress your views to them and their local reps.

What specifically has the NRA done for gun owners? Just read my post directly above yours.

We all have things we'd like them to do that, for various reasons they are not doing, or they're doing something else. Ao pay yer dues and tell 'em what you want done!


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You don't get a pro-gun Congress when you have a Speaker or Majority Leader who is a member of an anti-gun party.




Dickhead; the NRA hasn't given any money to Nancy Pelosi ever. If your talking about Reed, he had an A rating at one time. So whats your point, other than trying to look like a dumbass?



You're stupid as a box of dogshiit, aren't you? You could have a very sharp point driven right up your ass and never know it. I'd sooner explain celestial mechanics to my dog.

Dumbass.


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So you have nothing else? BTW are you dyslexic?


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35

In the 1960s, the people running the NRA (Franklin Orth was the president) decided to "make nice" with the liberals on gun control. They decided to go lightly on legislative stuff and move the NRA headquarters to Colorado Springs, and concentrate on training people to shoot in the Olympics. The ILA (NRA Institute for Legislative Actiion) run by Neal Knox, disagreed with this, as did many of us members. At the 1977 NRA annual meeting in Cincinnati, Knox and Harlan Carter organized a coup and KICKED OUT THE GUYS WHO HAD RUN IT SINCE 1968! The by-laws were changed to let members nominate directors by petition. The "Cincinnati Reforms" also adapted a "no compromise" position. And they didn't move to Colorado Springs to train Olympic shooters...



...and ever since, the establishment within has been working to undermine and reverse the Cincinnati reforms. The establishment is there and it maintains its stranglehold via the nominating committee. Too much like the RNC to suit me.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
So you have nothing else? BTW are you dyslexic?




GFY. Seriously.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by gitem_12
What kind of excuse di you have for the NRAs support of GCA 68


Guess we're off the 1934 kick.

Now as for 1968...

In the 1960s, the people running the NRA (Franklin Orth was the president) decided to "make nice" with the liberals on gun control. They decided to go lightly on legislative stuff and move the NRA headquarters to Colorado Springs, and concentrate on training people to shoot in the Olympics. The ILA (NRA Institute for Legislative Actiion) run by Neal Knox, disagreed with this, as did many of us members. At the 1977 NRA annual meeting in Cincinnati, Knox and Harlan Carter organized a coup and KICKED OUT THE GUYS WHO HAD RUN IT SINCE 1968! The by-laws were changed to let members nominate directors by petition. The "Cincinnati Reforms" also adapted a "no compromise" position. And they didn't move to Colorado Springs to train Olympic shooters!

So you see, blaming the current leadership for anything that happened in 1968 is like blaming President Trump for something Obama did.

I repeat...Not only are our NRA leaders different people than in1968 but they KICKED OUT the leaders who were there in 1968.

Which is why we won the fights over registering ammo sales (got it repealed), "Saturday night specials," cop-killing bullets, the 1994 AR15 ban (which banned nothing at all), got about 45 states (starting in 1987) to pass "shall issue" concealed carry laws, got background checks to be instant instead of making you come back to the store a week later, got about 45 states to pass pre-emption laws (which, among other things, threw out Cleveland's handgun registration law), lost Al Gore the presidential election, lost the Democrats the House of representatives in 1994 for the first time in 40 years (according to Bill Clinton, that was the NRA's "fault"), and helped us in ways you can't even imagine.

Can't even imagine? Here's one. Our club bought 80 acres out in the country. The local farmers obkjected to the noise and tried to get an ordance passed banning shooting. The NRA sent a guy out with a dB sound measuring device. Guess what? They would have had to ban trucks on the Interstate a mile away. Duh. 20 years later the club is still shooting there.

So if anyone wants to rationalize not paying their fair share, find some other reason to bash the NRA.

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Second Amendment Task Force, 1994




So what's the excuse for current NRA leadership endorsing red flag laws and the ban on bumpstocks? It's all relative


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Those all came out AFTER they were initially for it you [bleep] bozo.

Geezus. You really are the bigStick of the freakshow


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Originally Posted by John-F'n-Kerry

"I was for it before I was against it."


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Originally Posted by gitem_12


Those all came out AFTER they were initially for it you [bleep] bozo.

Geezus. You really are the bigStick of the freakshow






You're wasting energy arguing with this douchebag if you think you're going to make an impact...all you're making is a happy troll.


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Those all came out AFTER they were initially for it you [bleep] bozo.





your putz trump banned em by executive, don't wipe your twat with the NRA flatfoot.


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You just wanna put your head im lap ain't it? grin


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I wonder if trump is impeachable for an illegal executive order? I'd support that. Maybe pence would take notice.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
We all have things we'd like them to do that, for various reasons they are not doing, or they're doing something else. Ao pay yer dues and tell 'em what you want done!
I wrote the NRA a hand written letter around 1980 as a member imploring the leadership to take the issue to court and please to please quit this legislative BS because we already have a 2nd amendment. They haven't written back yet. I didn't renew my membership then and the only reason I'm a member now is because a relative gifted me a life membership. I am sure they'll get around to replying to my letter any day now.


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