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Better than what? I have a 6MM Rem in a 1-7.5'' twist barrel and I would not trade it for a 6mm-06.


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Better than a 6MM Creedmoor or say a 6MM Remington??


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Better as in more speed or better as in accuracy and barrel life?

I have a .240 which is pretty close to your 6-06. Mine is a 10 twist, wish it was an 8 twist. It’ll do great with 100 NPT, won’t stabilize 105’s.

What do you shoot in yours?

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For what? Users of 6mm rifles have been killing stuff for decades very neatly with 1-10 and 1-9" twist rifles, which stabilize hunting bullets up to 100gr very well, thank you. Only "need" for a faster twist is for the newer long, pointy bullets. I've had 1-10, 1-9, 1-7.7, and now a 1-7, but since I'm trying to shoot deer, mostly, with 95-100 grainers, there ain't a little curly hair's worth of difference performance wise, for me. Banging steel at long range or shooting across fjords is anothe matter, as is using something like the 115gr Bergers, which I intend to try before next season in my Barrett.

The question I have is, can the long Bergers be seated out in a 6mm/06 and still fit in a standard LA mag box, or would a 6mm/.284 work better for that?


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The case capacity of the 6mm-06 and the 240 Weatherby are near identical. Both will throw 6mm bullets with blazing speed, and both will have frighteningly brief barrel life. Build one and shoot it often enough, you'll be on your barrel makers Xmas card list, forever.......

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I was gonna build a 6mm improved with a 1:8 barrel.

I was not interested in shooting the bullets a 1:7 barrel afforded.


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I have never owned a 10 twist 6MM anything that shot 100 grain bullets for chit.Don`t want it for any particular thing except chits and grins.Sick of the same ol,same ol.I guess this winter has bored me outa my skull!!!


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Just finishing a 6AI which is waiting for a longer magazine that PT&G is taking their sweet time getting out. But the 6AI comes within about 100 fps of the larger 6s and sometimes equals them with slightly better barrel life. I am hoping the long neck and AI treatment will help improve barrel life too. My 1-8 may be marginal with the 115s but will be ideal for the 95-108 grain bullets that I am using now.

A twist of 1-7.5 will work with the 115s but for shorter ranges of less than say 800 yards I am not sure if the 115s have that much advantage. Some of the longer mono bullets call for a 1 in 7 so not a bad idea to start there as it will only hurt with the light jacketed varmint bullets at top speed.

The advantage of the 6-06 is easy to find brass and you can run it at lower pressure to get the same velocities the medium six's are straining to get. This could make barrel life pretty close between the various cartridges. But just a fact that anything bigger than a 6x47 or maybe a 6 Creedmore the barrel life will be on the sucky side.


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Originally Posted by Huntz
I have never owned a 10 twist 6MM anything that shot 100 grain bullets for chit.Don`t want it for any particular thing except chits and grins.Sick of the same ol,same ol.I guess this winter has bored me outa my skull!!!


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I've got a 6mm creedmoor with a 1-7" twist. So far I've only got 100 rounds through it with 107 matchkings and 105 bergers and it shoots them into tiny holes. I wanted the 7 twist to be able to shoot the 110 matchkings, 115 DTAC's and 115 Bergers.

With the newer 6mm bullets on the market that need the faster twist I can't see a reason not to go 7. The only downside I can see is it might spin apart light varmint bullets but I'm not going to be shooting those anyway.

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Originally Posted by Huntz
I have never owned a 10 twist 6MM anything that shot 100 grain bullets for chit.Don`t want it for any particular thing except chits and grins.Sick of the same ol,same ol.I guess this winter has bored me outa my skull!!!

My 10 twist .240 shoots the 100 NPT half MOA. It’s an H S Precision SPL in Hunters Edge.

It won’t stabilize 105’s at all. The shorter 100 NPT is probably pushing the envelope for 10 twist, but as long as it works...

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Edited to add, the extra .240 velocity may help. but, IME, speed is a weak substitute for twist.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
I've got a 6mm creedmoor with a 1-7" twist. So far I've only got 100 rounds through it with 107 matchkings and 105 bergers and it shoots them into tiny holes. I wanted the 7 twist to be able to shoot the 110 matchkings, 115 DTAC's and 115 Bergers.

With the newer 6mm bullets on the market that need the faster twist I can't see a reason not to go 7. The only downside I can see is it might spin apart light varmint bullets but I'm not going to be shooting those anyway.

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I've got a 6mm Rem on a 700 LA... one in 7 twist...

RL 19 will move the 115 grain Bergers at 3250 fps...

the round looks like a miniature Atlas Missile.

The LA gives me a long mag box, and the 6mm will it to equal a 6/06 in velocity with less powder.

its a PacNor barrel on it, so its pretty darn accurate...

John Noveske did it for me before he got rich and famous for his AR stuff...


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My Blaser R8 6mm barrel use the 7x57 mag insert for the same reason.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
The question I have is, can the long Bergers be seated out in a 6mm/06 and still fit in a standard LA mag box, or would a 6mm/.284 work better for that?


A 6mm06 is not an off the shelf item. It follows that the reamer used to chamber it can be made to provide whatever throating is desired.

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.240 H.S. Precision in Hunter's Edge. H.S. makes their own barrels, cut rifling like Brux/Kreiger and IMO, about as good.

I didn't like the H.S. factory stock at 42 oz. The Hunter's Edge is 26 oz, BIG difference.

H.S. even makes their own trigger which is excellent, has cut outs so you can see sear engagement, etc.

Half MOA with 100 NPT's is a good thing. Great WT and pronghorn rifle. This one now wears a VX-6 2-12x42 duplex instead of the 6500 shown.

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Originally Posted by Robert_White
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
I've got a 6mm creedmoor with a 1-7" twist. So far I've only got 100 rounds through it with 107 matchkings and 105 bergers and it shoots them into tiny holes. I wanted the 7 twist to be able to shoot the 110 matchkings, 115 DTAC's and 115 Bergers.

With the newer 6mm bullets on the market that need the faster twist I can't see a reason not to go 7. The only downside I can see is it might spin apart light varmint bullets but I'm not going to be shooting those anyway.

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It's a Bighorn Origin action with a Criterion barrel using the savage barrel nut. I put it in a Greyboe terrain stock.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
I've got a 6mm creedmoor with a 1-7" twist. So far I've only got 100 rounds through it with 107 matchkings and 105 bergers and it shoots them into tiny holes. I wanted the 7 twist to be able to shoot the 110 matchkings, 115 DTAC's and 115 Bergers.

With the newer 6mm bullets on the market that need the faster twist I can't see a reason not to go 7. The only downside I can see is it might spin apart light varmint bullets but I'm not going to be shooting those anyway.

Custom build rifle?


It's a Bighorn Origin action with a Criterion barrel using the savage barrel nut. I put it in a Greyboe terrain stock.

Never heard of such a thing!
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