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I have made that suggestion to SWFA, so I know it has been brought up.

I do not know if that will go anywhere. If I hear anything back, I'll let you know.

SWFA is not a big company, so they are growing their house brand slowly and carefully. They are, however, definitely growing it. I know about a few things they have in the works and I like the way they are going with them.

One step at a time though.

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I wish they had better SFP reticles. a SFP version of the 3-9 would be really nice, although the FFP version isn't terrible, I just don't think it need to be FFP for what it is. the 3-15 models, I don't like any of the reticles in those.


There are wow a few good SFP 3-9x scopes out there. I think FFP is one of the reasons to go with the SS scope.

Their Ultralight is SFP, but that is a more specialized design.

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If they could blow up that ultralight design to a standard 40 or 42 mm with better eye relief basically that would be cool.


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I’ve also owned several, and none have had parallax issues. I think maybe horse just looked through a bad sample, or something.


I see the same exaggerated parallax in every Burris/Pentax and Nikon 3-9 no matter what generation.

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I have five SWFA 3-9s, and have been around a couple more. Have not noticed parallax issues with any of the bunch.

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.

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Originally Posted by horse1
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I’ve also owned several, and none have had parallax issues. I think maybe horse just looked through a bad sample, or something.


I see the same exaggerated parallax in every Burris/Pentax and Nikon 3-9 no matter what generation.


Wonder if your vision is particular sensitive, as I haven’t noticed excessive parallax issues with Burris or Nikon 3-9s.

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Wish they’d do that.

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I have five SWFA 3-9s, and have been around a couple more. Have not noticed parallax issues with any of the bunch.

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.


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Originally Posted by SLM
Wish they’do that.

Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I have five SWFA 3-9s, and have been around a couple more. Have not noticed parallax issues with any of the bunch.

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.



Me too. Make a good scope damned near perfect for me.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
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I’ve also owned several, and none have had parallax issues. I think maybe horse just looked through a bad sample, or something.


I see the same exaggerated parallax in every Burris/Pentax and Nikon 3-9 no matter what generation.


Wonder if your vision is particular sensitive, as I haven’t noticed excessive parallax issues with Burris or Nikon 3-9s.


I do have a fair amount of astigmatism but I'm corrected to 20/20 all the time and I'm 20/15 in bright indoor light or pretty much anywhere outside even on dreary days.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I have five SWFA 3-9s, and have been around a couple more. Have not noticed parallax issues with any of the bunch.

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.

I think they would sell a pile of those.


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If they made basically a larger version of the 1-4 in a 2.5-10x42mm or 32mm, that would be interesting for a hunting scope. Mil Quad reticle, FFP, possibly illuminated. Having SWFA basically make a version of what all other companies make (3-9x42 with low pro capped turrets, 1” tube, duplex, etc) isn’t as intriguing, IMHO.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.



I could get behind that.


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I think if they were going to offer that, they would have already. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.



I could get behind that.


Ditto


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I have five SWFA 3-9s, and have been around a couple more. Have not noticed parallax issues with any of the bunch.

A hunting version of the 3-9 should have a low profile capped windage adjustment, zero stop on the elevation, and 3.75” of eye relief on 9x. Keep the reticle and adjustments as is.
I'd like that too! Then again, putting a larger objective on the 1-6 would make for a pretty good hunting scope as well. I'd even be fine with saving a few bucks by not having the mag range being smaller.

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Definatley a desire out their for something from them other than the ultralight teaser they came out with for alot of people.

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If they get too much going on, then they become like everybody else. Right now, they stick with a few scopes that are good quality at the right price. Every bell and whistle can add on money and then it takes away some of their value. They cannot be beaten for the dollars spent. I would not mind a little heavier reticle, but I do just fine with it the way it is, too. My fixed scopes do everything that I need of them.


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If they get too much going on, then they become like everybody else. Right now, they stick with a few scopes that are good quality at the right price. Every bell and whistle can add on money and then it takes away some of their value. They cannot be beaten for the dollars spent. I would not mind a little heavier reticle, but I do just fine with it the way it is, too. My fixed scopes do everything that I need of them.


I think this is spot on.

I own two 3-9x42 SS scopes. One is an early Mil-Dot model from the very first batch (SN 006) and one from a regular production run later on with Mil-Quad reticle.

For general purpose use, I prefer the Mil-Quad, but both work.

If I were to make changes to this scope (and I am not at all convinced SWFA should or will; this is just what I would want), I would do the following:
-Cover the turrets, so that they are lower profile or cover the windage turret and add zero-stop to the elevation turret
-Add illumination for low light use at low power (center dot only)
-Add a couple of wind holds to the Mil-Quad reticle to make for a very small and unobtrusive tree.

That would make it just about perfect for my purposes.

The basic problem with this is that a 3-9x42 scope is not fashionable right now since so many designs have moved to higher erector ratios. No matter how good the 3-9x42 SS is, marketing it to the general populace is kinda tricky.

The way it is right now, it can soldier on for quite a long time. However, whether it is worthwhile to invest more in it, is not clear to me.

From a business standpoint, the 3-15x42 SS is a better platform to invest into simply because of the configuration. If they make the same changes to that scope as I list above, I would be absolutely overjoyed.

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The 3-15 is neat in that you can adjust the parallax down to 6 m (~20 ft). Great for indoor dry-fire practice. But the 3-9 is a bit lighter, has lower knobs and is usually what I prefer for a hunting scope with the capability to dial in shots out to greater distances. Both are fantastic values in FFP scopes.

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Originally Posted by koshkin

If I were to make changes to this scope (and I am not at all convinced SWFA should or will; this is just what I would want), I would do the following:
-Cover the turrets, so that they are lower profile or cover the windage turret and add zero-stop to the elevation turret
-Add illumination for low light use at low power (center dot only)
-Add a couple of wind holds to the Mil-Quad reticle to make for a very small and unobtrusive tree.
From a business standpoint, the 3-15x42 SS is a better platform to invest into simply because of the configuration. If they make the same changes to that scope as I list above, I would be absolutely overjoyed.

ILya


This for me too, except thicken the reticle a bit and forget the "tree".

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Originally Posted by koshkin
Originally Posted by sbhooper
If they get too much going on, then they become like everybody else. Right now, they stick with a few scopes that are good quality at the right price. Every bell and whistle can add on money and then it takes away some of their value. They cannot be beaten for the dollars spent. I would not mind a little heavier reticle, but I do just fine with it the way it is, too. My fixed scopes do everything that I need of them.


I think this is spot on.

I own two 3-9x42 SS scopes. One is an early Mil-Dot model from the very first batch (SN 006) and one from a regular production run later on with Mil-Quad reticle.

For general purpose use, I prefer the Mil-Quad, but both work.

If I were to make changes to this scope (and I am not at all convinced SWFA should or will; this is just what I would want), I would do the following:
-Cover the turrets, so that they are lower profile or cover the windage turret and add zero-stop to the elevation turret
-Add illumination for low light use at low power (center dot only)
-Add a couple of wind holds to the Mil-Quad reticle to make for a very small and unobtrusive tree.

That would make it just about perfect for my purposes.

The basic problem with this is that a 3-9x42 scope is not fashionable right now since so many designs have moved to higher erector ratios. No matter how good the 3-9x42 SS is, marketing it to the general populace is kinda tricky.

The way it is right now, it can soldier on for quite a long time. However, whether it is worthwhile to invest more in it, is not clear to me.

From a business standpoint, the 3-15x42 SS is a better platform to invest into simply because of the configuration. If they make the same changes to that scope as I list above, I would be absolutely overjoyed.

ILya


Excellent points, Ilya. In fact, if they just added a ZS to the elevation, put in illumination, and bumped the glass/turrets up to the HD line, I’d buy one today if it was priced right!

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I’m another that doesn’t care for the parallax in the 3-9 at distance. At 300+ yds it’s definitely noticeable to me (have had 3 examples).

At least set the parallax at 300yds vs 100yds!

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