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Anyone wearing this jacket? Tried one on today, really liked it.

850 treated down with some type of waterproof and windproof shell.

Looking for some type of puffy for future use, This thing seems warm, likely too warm for any physical exertion but for idle situations, game on.

the fact that it's 30% off is just a bonus.

Any thoughts or comparisons?

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Other than buying from the liberal, anti- 2A, REI, you probably have a good deal.


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No experience with that one but here is a good review. https://manmakesfire.com/rei-stormhenge-850-down-jacket-review/

Good features and if you want more of a coat for stand hunting this would be good. I usually pick down for weight and pack ability and wear a separate wind or waterproof jacket if needed. Or I use it for layering under heavy jackets for cold stand hunting. Members get 20% off now, I did not see the 30% off just the rebate.


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Does it fit in a gallon Ziploc? That's my criteria. Very valuable in a hunt but limited use for my puffy jackets.

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Heavier than I'd want.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Does it fit in a gallon Ziploc? That's my criteria. Very valuable in a hunt but limited use for my puffy jackets.


Not sure, but not likely.

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Originally Posted by Brad
Heavier than I'd want.


overall weight or fill weight?

Options?

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Originally Posted by WAM
Other than buying from the liberal, anti- 2A, REI, you probably have a good deal.


And if I bought from Kuiu some whack job would bitch because I'm supporting California......

Don't be that guy.

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No REI anything allowed in this house! Buying from companies that don't support the 2nd amendment, is not American! Fugg REI and it as supporters! Just my humble opinion!

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Other than buying from the liberal, anti- 2A, REI, you probably have a good deal.


And if I bought from Kuiu some whack job would bitch because I'm supporting California......

Don't be that guy.


Choose wisely, grasshopper. FYI, Dick’s probably has some great sale items, too.....


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Originally Posted by Heym06
No REI anything allowed in this house! Buying from companies that don't support the 2nd amendment, is not American! Fugg REI and it as supporters! Just my humble opinion!


You, we all buy things everyday from companies that don't support the 2nd Amendment. So your comment is hypocritical at best and makes you sound really ignorant.


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
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No REI anything allowed in this house! Buying from companies that don't support the 2nd amendment, is not American! Fugg REI and it as supporters! Just my humble opinion!


You, we all buy things everyday from companies that don't support the 2nd Amendment. So your comment is hypocritical at best and makes you sound really ignorant.

On the other hand, why would you support an entity that doesn’t support the things you hold dear? Unless you are a majority stockholder, the only influence you have is voting with your wallet. Smart companies make and or sell their products and support mainstream ideals or simply STFU and not politicize their core values. To do otherwise is economic suicide. To support entities in opposition to ones core beliefs is not exactly smart either. Happy Trails


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Originally Posted by WAM
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Originally Posted by Heym06
No REI anything allowed in this house! Buying from companies that don't support the 2nd amendment, is not American! Fugg REI and it as supporters! Just my humble opinion!


You, we all buy things everyday from companies that don't support the 2nd Amendment. So your comment is hypocritical at best and makes you sound really ignorant.

On the other hand, why would you support an entity that doesn’t support the things you hold dear? Unless you are a majority stockholder, the only influence you have is voting with your wallet. Smart companies make and or sell their products and support mainstream ideals or simply STFU and not politicize their core values. To do otherwise is economic suicide. To support entities in opposition to ones core beliefs is not exactly smart either. Happy Trails


Remind me what computer you are using? What Internet provider? And the whole host of other anti-2A brands you buy regularly. And the beat goes on!


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WAM, I respect your line of thinking,

but you are being very narrow minded.

It's not that simple, never was, never will be.

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WAM, tell me which puffy to buy,

and I guarantee I can find some fault with the owner, or manufacturer, location, country manufactured in....... etc...etc...

Proceed carefully,

Patiently waiting.

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Simply put, one cannot avoid all the anti-2A businesses out there. But why would you buy outdoor gear from one so blatantly opposed to your ideals? Maybe you have no real principles to worry about. Just follow the lead lemming? Puffy? Buy the one that best matches the man-bun.


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what outdoor retailer sells top brand outdoor apparel that is pro 2A? I am not talking about camo second tier apparel. Quality stuff from the likes of Arcteryx, Mammut, RAB, Outdoor Research. and Patagonia?


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That's a tuff one. Most of the outdoor gear companies use all synthetic materials. The others source their down from China unless specifically stated.

Kuiiu is one that is good as well as Sitka, but pricey. Maybe LL Bean? Not sure about North Face and Outdoor Research. Paul Petzoldt was a hunter but not sure if he has anything to do with OR anymore. Patagonia is pro fishing but anti hunting so not sure where that fits in.


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You might check First Lite and Sitka. I just try to avoid the in-your-face Anti's. You are correct in saying it is very difficult to drill down to the bottom of the supply chain. I happily avoid the most obvious like Starbucks, Target, Dick's, REI and any others that pop into my sights. In looking at catalogs if there are no hunting or shooting scenes, you might have a clue. That is all. Happy Trails


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Originally Posted by Tejano
That's a tuff one. Most of the outdoor gear companies use all synthetic materials. The others source their down from China unless specifically stated.

Kuiiu is one that is good as well as Sitka, but pricey. Maybe LL Bean? Not sure about North Face and Outdoor Research. Paul Petzoldt was a hunter but not sure if he has anything to do with OR anymore. Patagonia is pro fishing but anti hunting so not sure where that fits in.


I wouldn't say Patagonia is anti-hunting. Definitely not clear and present Pro-hunting. They tend to keep quiet on hunting. I believe Yvon did hunt in his younger days. I would guess that the majority of the employees are anti-hunting. Those that are not are clearly not going to stand up and voice their pro-hunting opinions.

I don't get it people will pay all day everyday to anti 2A and hunting companies and justify it by it's not outdoor products. Yet those companies give so much more to the anti's than the outdoor companies do. Sorry but I am buying quality gear.

First lite is sh_t. The only two companies I would buy from that are hunting specific are Sitka and Kuiu. Though I am not overly impressed by either company.

I would look at Kyptek but they seem a bit pricey to me for what you are getting. In fairness I have never owned any of their gear. I do like that they are veteran founded and owned.

Personally camo means jacksh_t to me. I much rather just have solid earth tone colors.

WAM you haven't answered my honest question. Where would you buy any outdoor products of any quality?

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