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Browning Superposed Question #13725215 04/08/19
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 371 Los Angeles, CA O Omid OP Campfire Member
OP Omid Campfire Member O Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 371 Los Angeles, CA	I have some questions for Browning experts or collectors: Take a look at the picture below. I saw this gun at a local store today and at first I din't think it was a fine gun. But after a closer inspection it seemed a genuine Browning Superposed. The wood was nice and showed no sign of field use at all. The receiver finish is shiny (what is it called, mirror finish?) with faded traces of gold plating. It seems that it has been once fully gold plated but most of the gold color is now faded. The seller has identified it as a Broadway Model but searching on the internet I didn't see any pictures of a Browning superposed with this type of finish (?) The barrels are properly marked with Browning markings and it says made in Belgium. Is this a genuine gun? some special edition perhaps?

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Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13725470 04/08/19
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Tejano Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder	Not an authority on Brownings but looks like a Midas grade or more likely a special addition, a Grade VI or above. More photos would be helpful. I have a Grade VI that looks like a Dianna Grade but with coin finish and gold plating on the engraving. Mine was a salt wood refurbished in Belgium. There is some staining on the fore end so I would check it carefully for any salt damage. "When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli

Re: Browning Superposed Question Tejano #13725644 04/08/19
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Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,627 Anchorage, AK USA	Originally Posted by Tejano Not an authority on Brownings but looks like a Midas grade or more likely a special addition, a Grade VI or above. More photos would be helpful. I have a Grade VI that looks like a Dianna Grade but with coin finish and gold plating on the engraving. Mine was a salt wood refurbished in Belgium. There is some staining on the fore end so I would check it carefully for any salt damage. Staining on the butt, too. Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.

Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13726222 04/09/19
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	The Broadway designation has to do with the rib. Which was wider than normal and usually used on trap shotguns. From here that looks like engraving done by someone other than Browning, in that it doesn't seem to measure up to their standard. Nor have I ever seen that pattern on any Browning. A call or letter to Browning should answer any questions. Last edited by battue; 04/09/19. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13726249 04/09/19
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	Not even close to a Browning Midas grade.... laissez les bons temps rouler

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Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13726290 04/09/19
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	Example of Browning coin finish engraving. It is a Browning, but I'd bet more than a little that Browning didn't engrave that shotgun.... https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/browning-1-shotguns-for-sale/pointer-superlight-410-bore Also the gold on the higher grades was not gold plated. You got a real chunk of gold carved and insetted into the receiver or real gold lines undercutted into the metal. Last edited by battue; 04/09/19. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Browning Superposed Question battue #13726408 04/09/19
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kid0917 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA	Dang, for that price, can I have 2? they are too pretty for me, but I like knowing there are guns like that around.

Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13726416 04/09/19
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OP Omid Campfire Member O Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 371 Los Angeles, CA	Thank you all for your contributions. The issue regarding salt-curing of walnut is interesting and I didn't know about it. I did not see any sign of pitting or rust when I opened the forend and inspected the proof marks. I agree with the comments that say it is not a high-grade (e.g. Midas) factory engraving: the patterns are not common and it shows "gold plating" rather than gold inlay. The gun is very clean though, like a gun that has been in the safe for many years and not used. The price is also very reasonable ($800) so I am thinking it could make a nice field gun with some odd-looking engraving which are likely not original but are otherwise nicely done... Last edited by Omid; 04/09/19.

Re: Browning Superposed Question Omid #13726639 04/09/19
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	It has rust, the wood looks to be oil soaked and cracked on the left forearm side, or that stain came from a lot of hands on and not from being in the safe along with the engraving being crap. Broadway rib and it may be a trap gun that was used more than a little. Better Browning deals out there to be had for a little more. Last edited by battue; 04/09/19. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Browning Superposed Question battue #13727955 04/09/19
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OP Omid Campfire Member O Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 371 Los Angeles, CA	Originally Posted by battue It has rust, the wood looks to be oil soaked and cracked on the left forearm side, or that stain came from a lot of hands on and not from being in the safe along with the engraving being crap. Broadway rib and it may be a trap gun that was used more than a little. Better Browning deals out there to be had for a little more. Good eyes! I will probably go there again tomorrow, so I'll look at this gun more carefully this time. In any case, I don't think I will buy it

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Re: Browning Superposed Question battue #13728135 04/09/19
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,627 Anchorage, AK USA Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna
Sitka deer Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 50,627 Anchorage, AK USA	Originally Posted by battue It has rust, the wood looks to be oil soaked and cracked on the left forearm side, or that stain came from a lot of hands on and not from being in the safe along with the engraving being crap. Broadway rib and it may be a trap gun that was used more than a little. Better Browning deals out there to be had for a little more. +1 Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.

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