Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters What's out there in 30-30 land these days ?

You bet DD, meters very well, burns clean, accurate, and all the speed a man could want from a 30-30 lever rifle.

Hey thanks, got some load data ?

Lyman's 49th sez 32.0 grains max of RX15 with a 170 gr JFP.

Yup, Dan's got it right in the post above, I have a 1967 year model built '94 Canadian Centennial rifle with a 26" octagon barrel, it takes up to 34 grs RL-15 for 2400 fps with those 170gr Partitions, RP nickel cases last forever, anything I've hit with it does not.

Probably due to the nickel cases.

Ya, that's it, the nickel cased coat sleeve that releases that 170gr knock your dick in the dirt Partition punch!

Any news about the 30-30 Creedmoor? Dan? I am told that Marlin (Remington) is coming out with the Model 336 Improved. No word on its release date yet.

Steve, that image prompts many reflexes, no?

I have put a leash on my tongue, save to say "336 Improved" is an oxyMORONic idea. PO Ackley's experiments on improving the .30-30 were nothing more than engineering exercise which illustrated a few unique properties of the concept.

I'll leave it at that; I need to clean the puke off my flip flops anyway.

Best wishes,

DD

Gunner, I'm wondering why Nosler didn't ID the partition as "KDD", as in Knock your D........

If Parker Ackley was alive today, he would probably try and improve an improved improvement.

Don't be angry with him. He was a rifle looney. In a way, he was the father of all improved designs. Sure, others were doing it before him, but he made it his own. Now, we talk about almost any improved design as being "Ackley Improved" - even if he didn't actually do it. The days of wrangling cartridges by individuals is pretty much gone. Oh, there are still the courageous few that try new ideas, but the golden age of improvements and wildcatting is over.

Oh, my kingdom for a 30-30 Improved!

I have no anger towards Mr A at all. He was a master looney. But Steve, that homaphroditic 336 picture was just, uh, special.

I know that you'll be thrilled to death to hear about Remington's plans for this rifle! To start with, the tube magazine isn't. It's for show. It harkens back to an older time when people actually used round nosed and/or cast bullets. It's nutriment plastic.

The lever isn't either. It's just for show, and made of fibrous provender.

Faux wood completes the image. It's called "esculent nutri-synthetic" walnut. It's eco-friendly, and if boiled, can be eaten. Don't harm the wildlife!

The insides are made completely of valent bonded impress treated, green pabulum.

Remington is working on a new case material, made of soya, that can only be used one time, and cannot be reloaded. Producers must pay a royalty if they wish to manufacture and sell it.

In fact, the whole rifle, ammunition and all, is edible! Wow, ain't progress wunnerful!

No plastic stock ?

It's not plastic. It made of synthesized plant matter. "Esculent nutri-synthetic" walnut.

Because Noah hadn't given all the credit to the nickel brass yet. ; ]

Steve, I believe that magazine arrangement MAY work better - rotated 180* (short side forward) Especially with rimmed cartridges.

You'd have to tell Remlin. A lot of what they touch turns to sheit.

A Freedom Group board member?

CEO as I understand it.