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Is there a ballistic difference between the two? What is the case capacity difference anyone know?


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Quick google shows 22-250 at 44.6, 22 creed at 52gr


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22-250 ai 46.9 gr


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I bought a 22-250 this year specifically to make it into a 22 Creedmoor.

Never even fired a shot through through the donor.

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I’m struggling between the 22-250 AI and 22 CM. I don’t know how much difference there really is...


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5 more gr case capacity, awesome brass, no fire forming, shouldn't be much to think about...


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The .22 Creedmoor is essentially the .22-250 Improved, which means another 100 fps in velocity (no big deal) at the same pressure. But everything else being equal, the brass will last longer due to less stretching, and tends to feed better in some actions.


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Plus the .22-250 is so yesterday, man. Like, if it doesn't say Creedmoor on the barrel it's not hip. And ya gotta be hip to be cool.

Tell that to the chuck munching on some alfalfa minding his own business at 350 yards....


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Plus the .22-250 is so yesterday, man. Like, if it doesn't say Creedmoor on the barrel it's not hip. And ya gotta be hip to be cool.

Tell that to the chuck munching on some alfalfa minding his own business at 350 yards....

I was thinking more along the lines of a coyote dining on a cow’s after birth, but I get your point.


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Them that cain't..MUST "Google".

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Pardon my shooting it all and then some,as you "flaunt" your Google,lick windows and "shoot" your Imagination and it's Pretend.

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Virgin Alpha Kreedmire cases to left,formed 22-250AI to right.

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I have just obtained a 26" 22-250 and I've rechambered a 24" 22-250 into an AI. I hope to wring them out this summer. I wish I had a means of measuring pressure. I'll probably be looking at velocities in the Nosler manual and using a chronograph. But for either one I'll hope to get great accuracy at near top velocity. I've not found much information on the AI, except the Nosler Manual. I guess the Sierra manual has loads too, but I don't have a Sierra manual. It looks like Nosler has a couple more grains of powder in the 22-250 AI over the Swift in a many loads with same weight bullets.

I'm not interested in using either for anything but varmints. Long range PD's will get most of the bullets from these.

I'm not interested in anything with the name "Creedmoor" except maybe a 9.5 Creedmoor and a 6.7 Creedmoor.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I’m struggling between the 22-250 AI and 22 CM. I don’t know how much difference there really is...


Can't tell you about the Creedmore, never used one. But the 22-250AI since about '90 and wore out a few barrels. I like the cartridge. Best accuracy and vel. in my std. 22-250 is a 50 with 37.5 / RL15 doing 3926. Very good load. Several 22-250AI's all love about 40-41gr. RL15. .Favorite is the 25" Walther....fireforrms at 4113 with 38.5gr./ RL15, with formed brass and 39.9gr it's doing about 4200 - almost 300 fps. more than that std 22-250. ( I'll add that fireforming load is just as accurate as formed and completely usable in the field - I've formed about 6,000 AI cases of different chamberings on chucks and pd's) The 28" Hart is at 4246 with 41.2gr. A 25" Winchester barrel likes 39.8gr for 4079fps is best......40.2gr does 4126 but less acccurate. Chambers are all comparable with no freebore, but my reamer has .255" nk while 2 of these barrels are tight neck. Win. 760 works well in that case but it takes more of it and velocity/accuracy isn't up to RL15. Best powder I've found is Reloder 15, the stuff just works great. Brass is the very tough and no longer available PMC. The 22-250AI has always worked real well for me and I've no reason to start messing with another one. But if you're starting from scratch and 22CM brass is readily available, and the stuff is good, I'd say it's a tossup and go with either.

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Originally Posted by mathman
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After 50+ years of reloading, I don't fall head over heals for a name. Some people think that the name Creedmoor on their gun will kill their elk at 1,000 yards. I read thread on another forum comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor to the 300 Win Mag. Evidently some people think they're about the same.


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Ignore the name and the folks who don't know which way is up, then evaluate on the technical merits. I've been at it over 40 years and I don't like things that are trendy just because they're trendy, but I like to think I can be rational about it.

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I think I'm rational. I renamed my 375 Whelen Ai to 95 Creedmoor and now magically it will be a 2,000 yard rifle.


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After 50+ years of reloading, I don't fall head over heals for a name. Some people think that the name Creedmoor on their gun will kill their elk at 1,000 yards. I read thread on another forum comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor to the 300 Win Mag. Evidently some people think they're about the same.


The funny part is how some guys like yourself go out of your way to insist anything "Creedmoor" is all about a name, while ignoring the actual advantages that make them popular. That must be a way to make yourself feel better I guess if you can convince yourself that everyone else is dumber than you. That's not rational, it's emotional.

Judman and Mule Deer both pointed out some very real advantages; maybe those don't apply to you, but it doesn't take a lot of thought to realize they probably apply to a lot of other people.

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