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Opinion's of price in this condition? Looking to buy.

Blue Book is $750 at 100%. Mfg. '72-'75.

In a dynamic market, Blue Book can be behind. Not sure of the demand for the M-12Y.

I've handled them. I think they're as nice as earlier M-12's.

Let us know how it goes.

DF

What are they asking? Blue book for collector type guns is usually way low or for what dealers will pay. I am guessing in that condition $1000 would be close.

I’d also be curious about the asking price.

They’re worth what someone is willing to pay and someone is willing to take.

That can vary from area to area.

DF

Winchester used sintered metal parts in these guns. That doesn't mean they are bad, it's just not how the originals were made.

They're still pretty nice.

The Miroku made M-12's sold by Browning are really nice.

DF

I agree with you completely DF! I have the Browning Model 12 in 28 gauge.

Spoke with a couple of old M12 guy's at my club today and they said stay away. Advised I look for a 50's Trap gun.

I’m sure those seasoned shooters have their reasons.

I think I’d listen to them. Would like to know the details.

DF

Don't think you'll find MIM parts in a Miroku gun...

DF

I sold one of these about 6-7 months ago. Got $775.

>>> they are right if you were thinking of using it for trap ? but to buy ,sell or keep maybe $500.00 - $600.00 i would pay for this model 12,i would sell it for $900.00 -$1000.00 as a dealer. do i really want it ? Nope i have much better trap guns including 2 Remington 870 trap TB shotguns as nice that i don`t use now. this model 12 is a nice shotgun $700.00 is enough to pay.good luck

Burnt Powder wrote:
The Y series was manufactured in Japan by B. C. Miroku. The original pre Y Model 12s were manufactured at the Winchester plant in New Haven.

DF,
I borrowed the text below from shotgun world forum. Miroku never made a 12 gauge reproduction:

BP


Not true.

The Y-series M12s were produced in New Haven, CT by Winchester between 1972-80. They were offered in field, skeet, and trap grades initially, although only the trap grades were made throughout the entire run. Therefore, most Y-series guns are trap grade guns.

I own a 1980 Y-series M12 trap and am quite pleased with it. It compares well to the 1960 M12 trap I also own. The Y-series guns did have cast receivers (as did the last of the pre-64 guns), and a rather unfortunate way to attached the rib to the barrel at the muzzle (a screw that can shear with enough use). The value of Y-series M12s is a bit lower than the classic pre-64 guns, and therefore make a good choice for someone looking for an affordable "shooter". Be aware that NIB Y-series guns are still out there, if you so choose.

"Burnt Powder" has confused the American-made Y-series M12s with small gauge guns (20, 28, .410) produced much later by Miroku in Japan during the late 80s-early 90s. Those small guage M12/M42 clones were labeled as either Brownings or Winchesters. Some of these small guage guns were available in high grade versions that command high prices today.