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I would love to have some info on your load development with the CFE223 powder in the 400 Whelen. I just pick on up and am looking into the loadings for it. Would love to see what the new powders will do in it.

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The rifle is off being engraved. When it returns, the next project is load development. I will document here.

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Sweet, thanks. Gonna go watch paint dry now.


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Where are you all finding dies for the 400 Whelen? Did a quick look and didn't find anything right off the bat. Anybody know where there is any in stock?


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Originally Posted by 35400Whelen
I would love to have some info on your load development with the CFE223 powder in the 400 Whelen. I just pick on up and am looking into the loadings for it. Would love to see what the new powders will do in it.


Damn 35, glad you sent me a PM, I never saw your post, you're on the way to GTG now. smile


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Where are you all finding dies for the 400 Whelen? Did a quick look and didn't find anything right off the bat. Anybody know where there is any in stock?


CH4D has dies Big Buddy. cool

Quality Cartridge has brass, if you build, be dang sure and use the Petrov reamer.


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Got it! Thanks Gunner!

I believe I may send some guns off....

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Yo welcome Neighbor, 400gr Woodleigh Weldcores at 2255 are HAMMERS! smile


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Gunner, what are you using for cases?

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Quality Cartridge 400 basic brass, neck down to slight crush fit on closing, then trim to length, I hunted Africa with my fireform loads. grin

It's in stock at Quality Cartridge right now, better hurry.


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Gunner, you post that load data anywhere? I'm getting close to ordering bullets and get going on mine.

Your velocity makes me curious, 2255/400gr is trucking a bit faster than I've seen from other data. Granted its a wildcat so not exactly any set standards. I'm curious because I've been thinking about having a 2nd 400 built but with a shorter barrel. If you're getting speed like that, a similar load in a 20-21" barrel might still come close to that magical 2100+ mark.

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Tag. I’m interested in data as well.

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Ch- 4D has them on the shelf. However, be very careful to specify the chamber dims you are using. I got a set which would not set my should back correctly. This is not a complaint. There are a lot of versions out there. Dave listened to my problem, measured my fire formed brass and sent me the correct set. Everything works as expected.

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What the guys said. However, and just to cover all the options. I have made some out of 30/06 brass. This is a last resort and a PIA. The brass will end up a bit short, but it doesn't matter. It works and 30/06 brass is everywhere.

Better yet, I found out the Bufallo Arms people have tooling to convert 35 Whelento cylindrical. At the time this was happening all brass was scarce. I came across a bunch of new 35 Whelen brass and the BA people agreed to convert it for me at a very reasonable price. The converted brass is exactly like any other 30/06 cylindrical/basic brass I have seen.

I also bought some from Quality Cartridge specifically because they custom headstamp the caliber. Some countries require this, I am told.

I now have 300 cases +-. Since I shoot cast a lot, the first 50 might last me forever, but I am hoping 300 are enough for this lifetime.

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Thanks for the post, I am quite interested but only in the Petrov chamber. He did so much for the 400 clan. I emailed him with a few questions but his articles were to cover most of my questions about details but history as well. The 400 has to be a hammer. His death was truly a loss. Be Well. Packy

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I recently had a 400 Whelen made off of a mod 700 ADL. The barrel is a 28 in stainless Pac-Nor barrel. I just received my dies from Hornady. Ben did an outstanding job. I'm pushing a 300gr Hornady at 2484 behind a charge of 61gr H4895. The Hornady 400gr behind a charge of 55gr H4895 is traveling 2100fps. My first dies were customized 41 mag dies. My crimper was a 44cal RCBS bullet puller. I'm looking forward to hunting elk with this rifle.


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Well i finally got to shoot my pair of 400's this weekend. Didn't have any 4895 or cfe 223, so looking at a burn rate chart, went with TAC. Loaded 57grs with a 400gr Hornady and a Remington 9 1/2 primer. Using 35 Whelen brass " thanks Muledeer", passed through the 400 die, then through a 44mag belling die to make a faulse shoulder, and back through the 400 die. My pard and I put 10 rounds through each rifle, mostly for function check. It's going to be a fun cartridge. It's been a long time in the making. Thanks Gunner500 and Mart, for the advice and all the leg work

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Originally Posted by muzzleblast
Well i finally got to shoot my pair of 400's this weekend. Didn't have any 4895 or cfe 223, so looking at a burn rate chart, went with TAC. Loaded 57grs with a 400gr Hornady and a Remington 9 1/2 primer. Using 35 Whelen brass " thanks Muledeer", passed through the 400 die, then through a 44mag belling die to make a faulse shoulder, and back through the 400 die. My pard and I put 10 rounds through each rifle, mostly for function check. It's going to be a fun cartridge. It's been a long time in the making. Thanks Gunner500 and Mart, for the advice and all the leg work

Keenan


I've not had good luck with TAC in my 41 O&M wildcat, which is the same power level as the 400 whelen. It doesnt do well from a short 20" barrel and is too slow burning of a powder.

With a 350 grain A-Frame, I was seeing 2310 fps with 58 grains of Alliant 10x with low recoil. TAC gave more recoil and less velocity.
Here's my last string with TAC with the same 350 grain A-Frame:
55 grains: 1993 fps
56 grains: 2103 fps
57 grains: 2080 fps
58 grains: 2109 fps
59 grains: 2129 fps
60 grains: 2171 fps
61 grains: 2189 fps
62 grains: 2225 fps
63 grains: 2218 fps
64 grains: 2233 fps. Full case/slight powder compression.

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Originally Posted by MileHighShooter
Gunner, you post that load data anywhere? I'm getting close to ordering bullets and get going on mine.

Your velocity makes me curious, 2255/400gr is trucking a bit faster than I've seen from other data. Granted its a wildcat so not exactly any set standards. I'm curious because I've been thinking about having a 2nd 400 built but with a shorter barrel. If you're getting speed like that, a similar load in a 20-21" barrel might still come close to that magical 2100+ mark.


Dang, MileHighShooter, I never saw this post, if you haven't developed loads yet, by all means, you and pabucktails shoot me a PM, will be back this evening, another crazy busy day is already well underway.


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Originally Posted by muzzleblast
Well i finally got to shoot my pair of 400's this weekend. Didn't have any 4895 or cfe 223, so looking at a burn rate chart, went with TAC. Loaded 57grs with a 400gr Hornady and a Remington 9 1/2 primer. Using 35 Whelen brass " thanks Muledeer", passed through the 400 die, then through a 44mag belling die to make a faulse shoulder, and back through the 400 die. My pard and I put 10 rounds through each rifle, mostly for function check. It's going to be a fun cartridge. It's been a long time in the making. Thanks Gunner500 and Mart, for the advice and all the leg work

Keenan


Yo welcome muzzleblast, enjoy one of the most efficient and pound for pound heavy punchers out there in the world of cartridges. smile


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