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Finally, the first thing I do to any spinning reel is remove the parts that automatically close the bail. Learn to close the bail by hand and your spinning reel endeavors will go a lot smoother. Some remove the bail altogether, but I don't think that is necessary if you convert to manually closing the bail.
Hope this helps, Gun Doc Great advise on manually closing the bail. After you do it a while it becomes automatic. [/quote] Yes, it does, and since your are reaching down to crank the reel anyway, it is very little extra motion.
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I only get to salt water fish a couple times a year. I still use the old Mitchell Garcia reels from the 60's and 70's. Have several 306's,1 302, and a couple 402's. Love em and parts are fairly easy to find on Ebay and the local fishing shows. Caught a 48 lb. striper last April in the Chesapeake Bay on the 402.
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Back in the day, a pro fishing guide Dad knew always cut the bail wires off the reel, and manually closed - so mine got cut when I was barely a teen. I never think about manually closing the bail, it's 'Automatic'
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If money were truly no object, then I would have to try a Van Staal or a Zeebaas (both of those are spelled correctly, BTW.)
But since I don't want to spend the kind of money that will buy a decent rifle on a reel, my go to salt water inshore spinner for years has been the original Daiwa Black Gold, BG15. They are not elegant, but they are tough. I cannot say I use them as hard as some, but people I know who use equipment seriously, the late Billy Sandifer for one, speak highly of the original Black Golds. I keep thinking Daiwa is going to quit making them, but so far they have not. I guess they have a loyal following.
I have been getting into surf fishing and one of the more knowledgeable and still alive people I know, Nick Meyer of Breakaway Tackle Development, likes the newer Daiwa BG (confusing, I know) reels. They do have a lot of features for the money. I've a BG5000 I like a lot, but haven't used hard enough to recommend. That said, the Alan Hawk BG review mentioned earlier is as complete a reel review as you will ever want to read. I'm a PhD engineer, and I made a copy of it for my records. That said, I still bought a surf sized original Black Gold BG60 to put back in case Daiwa ever quits making the series. (I think I have enough BG15 reels to last me.)
If you want to learn from the folks that use stuff hard, read the surf fishing forums. The old Penn "Greenie" series and the almost identical SS series also have a following, and rightly so.
Finally, the first thing I do to any spinning reel is remove the parts that automatically close the bail. Learn to close the bail by hand and your spinning reel endeavors will go a lot smoother. Some remove the bail altogether, but I don't think that is necessary if you convert to manually closing the bail.
Hope this helps, Gun Doc you from corpus?
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Born and raised in San Antonio. Spent a lot of time in Rockport as a kid, when it was truly a small little fishing town and not much else. Have lived in Austin since '73, when I came to school at UT. That was when it was a big small town not over run with idiots. Now looking to get the hell out and move south, but not sure where. Have a condo in Port Aransas, a lot in Holiday Beach, but not wanting to live on the coast (I said this before Harvey, but hurricanes are the reason I always said that.) We do want to get closer to the coast. Met Nick when I built a simple machine to test the breaking strength of fishing hardware like snaps and such. Showed it to him. He liked it, built his own and we became friends. I'm and engineer, so we connect, although he likes to pick on engineers. I just tell him "piss off" in my best British accent, and we both laugh. He is a great guy. Maybe that was too much information and sorry everyone for the hijack. Stxhunter, PM me if you want. Gun Doc
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I recently bought a second hand Penn for $25. which is a very good deal. My fishing is limited to salt water only simply because of my proximity to the Gulf of Mexico.
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A little more on the Diawa Black Gold. Last week I surf fished every day for three or four hours with a 2500 model. There's been a lot said and written about the quality parts and engineering of this reel and it's value compared to reels costing better than twice as much. My use of it wasn't all that demanding. It got dunked a couple of times and no big fish but it worked perfect every day and IMO is as smooth as any spinning reels I've used including reels costing more than twice as much. I've been a Shimano fan for a lot of years, still am but I'd have to say for smoothness of operation and if the quality of parts and engineering is as good as reported, for around $90 the Black Gold might be as good a spinning reel value for heavy saltwater or freshwater use as you'll find.
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You cannot beat the old Penn SS series. Built like tanks, and perform. They have been "re-discovered", so some sellers price them accordingly.
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Picked up a diawa battle and really think it is a good reel.. Doubt it.
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Van Staal. Its a reel, not a chainsaw.
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for around $90 the Black Gold might be as good a spinning reel value for heavy saltwater or freshwater use as you'll find. The Daiwa BG is a fantastic reel. Look no further unless you want to. Very few warts on the battle, but for very little more you get a reel with a much more robust maingear. A home run imo for Daiwa. I have penn slammers, ss, Z's, in addition to stradics and baitrunners from shimano. So I am not a brand loyal drone. Lots of great reels on the market, but the new BG hits a huge quality for price ratio. When I use mine I have never said "I should have brought the _______". Not once. Not ever.
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My go to surf and tuna plugging reel is the Daiwa Saltiga.
Van Staal is my #2 in the surf or from the boat.
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Daiwa BG for me.
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Daiwa Fuego. Tons of line capacity for the size, small and light for the size, tons of drag and mag sealed.
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The only spinning reel I ever used for saltwater was the Shimano Baitrunner. My brother got it for my Mom. I don't remember the weight line but I want to say 20lb maybe heavier. It was a neat setup.
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The only spinning reel I ever used for saltwater was the Shimano Baitrunner. My brother got it for my Mom. I don't remember the weight line but I want to say 20lb maybe heavier. It was a neat setup. I have one. That is a perfect setup, depending on which size reel. Excellent for live baiting.
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The only spinning reel I ever used for saltwater was the Shimano Baitrunner. My brother got it for my Mom. I don't remember the weight line but I want to say 20lb maybe heavier. It was a neat setup. I have one. That is a perfect setup, depending on which size reel. Excellent for live baiting. I'd set it up for her freshwater for stripped bass and big catfish. loves loves it.
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