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Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743227 04/15/19
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,790 J JoeBob Campfire Outfitter
JoeBob Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 14,790	Originally Posted by Jevyod Originally Posted by JoeBob I wouldn’t call anything on a Savage action a “build”. You literally stick in gauge, screw the barrel to it, then tighten the barrel nut. In a Savage? Just do the 30-06. Was thinking of buying a blank, ream the chamber etc. Why? Lots of good Savage barrels in any chambering you want by about any maker you can name. If you just want to spend more money, have at it.

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Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743287 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country Q Quak Campfire Regular
Quak Campfire Regular Q Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country	To the original question...I wouldn't do either personally. You'd be better off to build a 6.5 or 7mm or some sort. If your donor is a long action id personally go 260 rem with lots of latitude for COAL. If a short action id go 7mm-08 all day and twice on Sunday. You could of course do a 280 Rem on the long action but imho a 260 or a 7mm-08 will shoot circles around anything built off the 06 case. If your dead set on a 30-06 or a 8x57...get a 30-06. 8mm bullets suck and the gas tank on the 8x57 isn't big enough to push the 196-200 grain bullets fast enough. Id note the 8x57 shooting 200s is a pretty stout recoiling package as well. But again...I would do either one. Note that a 8x57 and 30-06 are about equal in terms of HUNTING performance. Id take either one anywhere and do anything with them as far as game taking capability goes. But id rather a 7mm GOD Bless America

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Big Stick #13743317 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas G geedubya Campfire Outfitter
geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas	Originally Posted by Big Stick All Salvages are switch barrels...but nothing is fhuqking funnier than Texans TRYING to "talk" rifles. Congratulations?!? BTW, Them that can, do I let my rifles do the talkin'............. Them that can't, troll! Not much sadder than a fellow with your knowledge and ability, to be reduced to trollin', trollin' trollin'. ya! GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Quak #13743326 04/15/19
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186 J Jevyod OP Campfire Regular
OP Jevyod Campfire Regular J Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186	Originally Posted by Quak To the original question...I wouldn't do either personally. You'd be better off to build a 6.5 or 7mm or some sort. If your donor is a long action id personally go 260 rem with lots of latitude for COAL. If a short action id go 7mm-08 all day and twice on Sunday. You could of course do a 280 Rem on the long action but imho a 260 or a 7mm-08 will shoot circles around anything built off the 06 case. If your dead set on a 30-06 or a 8x57...get a 30-06. 8mm bullets suck and the gas tank on the 8x57 isn't big enough to push the 196-200 grain bullets fast enough. Id note the 8x57 shooting 200s is a pretty stout recoiling package as well. But again...I would do either one. Note that a 8x57 and 30-06 are about equal in terms of HUNTING performance. Id take either one anywhere and do anything with them as far as game taking capability goes. But id rather a 7mm Already have a 260. I am looking for something to fill the gap between my 260 and 358 Winchester. I had given the 280 some thought. ......the occasional hunter wielding a hopelessly inaccurate rifle, living by the fantastical rule that this cartridge can deliver the goods, regardless of shot placement or rifle accuracy. The correct term for this is minute of ego.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743342 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	Dubya', Pardon simplistic facts,so reliably trouble you so. Congratulations?!? Only you,can keep you...from saying something fhuqking Stupid and I do enjoy that you've zero refrain. Nothing is fhuqking funnier,than a Texan TRYING to "talk" rifles. Hint...................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743347 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	A 8" 7-08 for 180 ELD's,is a literal fhuqking HAMMER. Hint. Build something FUN to shoot...due the fact,it might even get used a smidge. Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743350 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country Q Quak Campfire Regular
Quak Campfire Regular Q Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country	280 is awesome no doubt. You'd be very happy with a 280...much more so than either the 06 or 8x57 imho. Id be hesitant however to try to fill any gap the exists between the 260 and 358. There is nothing a 280, 30-06 or 8x57 could do that your 260 couldn't do as well or better. Boring i know...but if it cant be done with a 140gr. 6.5 bullet...a .30 or .32 isnt the answer. GOD Bless America

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743353 04/15/19
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,408 South eastern BC. C comerade Campfire Regular
comerade Campfire Regular C Joined: May 2016 Posts: 1,408 South eastern BC.	I thought there was a law or something- every firearm owner must own a 30/06. Quickly before they catch on get yourself a classic. The 30/06 is never a bad choice anyways

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743354 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	That would depend upon the particulars,of said 260...if only because boolits matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. Hint................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 geedubya #13743370 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242 G GoForBroke Campfire Member
GoForBroke Campfire Member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242	Originally Posted by geedubya Originally Posted by Big Stick All Salvages are switch barrels...but nothing is fhuqking funnier than Texans TRYING to "talk" rifles. Congratulations?!? BTW, Them that can, do I let my rifles do the talkin'............. Them that can't, troll! Not much sadder than a fellow with your knowledge and ability, to be reduced to trollin', trollin' trollin'. ya! GWB Nice shooting! The last time I took a turkey was while hunting in Texas. Nice people down there. Nice whitetails too.

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Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743386 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242 G GoForBroke Campfire Member
GoForBroke Campfire Member G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 242	Originally Posted by Jevyod I know an older guy, a retired gunsmith. I wanted to build a rifle with him, and he said he would help me do it. I only have a few rifles, and have a caliber gap from my 260 rem to a 358 Winchester. Was thinking something in the 30-8mm range. I have pretty much narrowed it down to the 30-06 or the 8x57. I am leaning towards the ought 6 for several reasons. Availability of components (I reload), better BC (i think), cheaper components...not sure what else. This will be a deer/hog rifle, and i am not a long range shooter. If I want to get into long range paper punching I will use my 260. Is there something I am overlooking here? Is one easier to build than the other? The guy already has the reamers for both chamberings. This project is basically so I have something to remember the guy by. Or is there another 30 caliber that I should be considering? I don't want to get into anything that requires a lot of extra work to make it function. Since you said the project is something to remember the guy by why not ask him what his favorite cartridge is and why? That might get you a rifle that will have several "layers" of qualities to remember him by.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 GoForBroke #13743390 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas G geedubya Campfire Outfitter
geedubya Campfire Outfitter G Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,118 Texas	Originally Posted by GoForBroke Originally Posted by Jevyod I know an older guy, a retired gunsmith. I wanted to build a rifle with him, and he said he would help me do it. I only have a few rifles, and have a caliber gap from my 260 rem to a 358 Winchester. Was thinking something in the 30-8mm range. I have pretty much narrowed it down to the 30-06 or the 8x57. I am leaning towards the ought 6 for several reasons. Availability of components (I reload), better BC (i think), cheaper components...not sure what else. This will be a deer/hog rifle, and i am not a long range shooter. If I want to get into long range paper punching I will use my 260. Is there something I am overlooking here? Is one easier to build than the other? The guy already has the reamers for both chamberings. This project is basically so I have something to remember the guy by. Or is there another 30 caliber that I should be considering? I don't want to get into anything that requires a lot of extra work to make it function. Since you said the project is something to remember the guy by why not ask him what his favorite cartridge is and why? That might get you a rifle that will have several "layers" of qualities to remember him by. +1 ya! GWB A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743393 04/15/19
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico	Get the 8x57mm. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743422 04/15/19
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,688 K Ky221 Campfire Tracker
Ky221 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,688	One could do much much worse than a 30-06 as an all around hunting cartridge.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 GoForBroke #13743424 04/15/19
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186 J Jevyod OP Campfire Regular
OP Jevyod Campfire Regular J Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186	Originally Posted by GoForBroke Originally Posted by Jevyod I know an older guy, a retired gunsmith. I wanted to build a rifle with him, and he said he would help me do it. I only have a few rifles, and have a caliber gap from my 260 rem to a 358 Winchester. Was thinking something in the 30-8mm range. I have pretty much narrowed it down to the 30-06 or the 8x57. I am leaning towards the ought 6 for several reasons. Availability of components (I reload), better BC (i think), cheaper components...not sure what else. This will be a deer/hog rifle, and i am not a long range shooter. If I want to get into long range paper punching I will use my 260. Is there something I am overlooking here? Is one easier to build than the other? The guy already has the reamers for both chamberings. This project is basically so I have something to remember the guy by. Or is there another 30 caliber that I should be considering? I don't want to get into anything that requires a lot of extra work to make it function. Since you said the project is something to remember the guy by why not ask him what his favorite cartridge is and why? That might get you a rifle that will have several "layers" of qualities to remember him by. Now that is some pretty good advice there!!! Thank you! ......the occasional hunter wielding a hopelessly inaccurate rifle, living by the fantastical rule that this cartridge can deliver the goods, regardless of shot placement or rifle accuracy. The correct term for this is minute of ego.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Ky221 #13743426 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	Which a 8x57 quantifies. Hint............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743430 04/15/19
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186 J Jevyod OP Campfire Regular
OP Jevyod Campfire Regular J Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,186	Big Stick, I must admit that I have really checked out the 7mm-08, and would not at all be surprised if I own one some day. ......the occasional hunter wielding a hopelessly inaccurate rifle, living by the fantastical rule that this cartridge can deliver the goods, regardless of shot placement or rifle accuracy. The correct term for this is minute of ego.

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743435 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,321 Paradise,Alaska	I'd never heard of a 7-08,until this Thread...and might try one myself.(grin) Hint.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Quak #13743457 04/15/19
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,987 san antonio, texas S satx78247 Campfire Regular
satx78247 Campfire Regular S Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,987 san antonio, texas	Quak, SORRY but you are DEAD WRONG. I load shoot/shoot 9.3x62mm for myself. Further .25-06, .375 Whelen & .400 Brown-Whelen Improved are easily made from .30-06 cases & all THREE are BETTER than the 6.5 or even any of the common 7mm cartridges. = The .400B-WI is fully as powerful as the .404 Jeffery for BIG/TOUGH/DANGEROUS game. That said, neither the .30-06 nor the 8x57 have any flies on them. = In fact the .30-06 loaded with a 250 grain bullet is in the same power range as the .318 Westley-Richards, which is well-regarded in Africa. yours, tex Last edited by satx78247; 04/15/19. Reason: typo/clarity "VICTORY OR DEATH" William Barrett Travis, Lt.Col., comdt. Fortress of The Alamo, Bejar F'by 24, 1836

Re: 30-06 or 8x57 Jevyod #13743488 04/15/19
Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country Q Quak Campfire Regular
Quak Campfire Regular Q Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,653 North Country	What do you define as better? Honestly your pulling obscure cartridges that can be made from the 06 case...im just being realistic. To Sticks point...he is correct. I made an assumption that the OP had a 260 with a suitable barrel to shoot heavy bullets. If its not the case and won't shoot 140s or 160s than i retract everything i said about the versatility of his 260. Ill stand by my point though that a 260 with a twist rate capable of stabilizing 140 and 160 gr bullets is suitable for everything that either a 06 or a 8x57 would be. GOD Bless America

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