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Just out of Simple Curiosity I wonder How Many here OWN the 8 RM now? I know it's history from introduction. The FIRST Shooting Times mag I bought had JRS' article Introducing Remington's Big 8. A hunting/shooting pard bought 1 brand new and he had an eye problem - when he bought it. I wound up shooting it MORE than he did in load development and grouping. A few years later I bought it from him. I really have done 85 % or more of the shooting done with the rifle. I have hunted it and killed deer with it JUST because I have it. ? I don't think it's needed for WT ?   ATST it's fully capable of taking any game in North America. Craig Boddington is a good reference. How many of you guys are out there ? Jerry
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I shoot THE Schit outta 8mm RemMag. Necked down to .284" and .308". ![[Linked Image]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/29/uyqx.jpg) Hint....................
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I have owned 4 in the past. RL25 was the powder of choice. H4831 was a close second.
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One can always load .284" or .308" projectiles backwards,to "reap" 8mm "performance". Congratulations?!?
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I owned one,killed a couple jackrabbits with it,then sold it.
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I owned one,killed a couple jackrabbits with it,then sold it. Well,....... I would not expect anything less ! !  I have considered having mine REbarreled to 416 R M or 375 H H. The 375 is probably the best option for me. I know I can shoot one. Thnx Jerry
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I have owned 4 in the past. RL25 was the powder of choice. H4831 was a close second. Fotis, I got mine before these slower Rl powders were on the market. JRS used IMR 4831 with good results. So I stocked up and have several #s. With the 200 gr bullets it gets 3100 fps w/o any problems. That combo equals the trajectory of the 270 W using similar BC bullets. I have a few #s of Rl 26, I might try a little of that. Thnx Jerry
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I’ve wanted one, but don’t need it.
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I’ve wanted one, but don’t need it. What 4 letter word is this.....need ?  Jerry
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Rabbits down here in NM are tough critters.  Keep it in 8 mag and take it west to kill a big bull elk with it.
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Got a Remington 700 Classic in the back of the safe...killed an elk with it. Don't want to sell it, but don't use it anymore.
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I believe I have only encountered one 8RM over the years
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I tossed around getting one for a moose hunt, but never did. Now I have a 7RM that I'm even wondering why I own.
Not the recoil with either, just too big a framed gun for what I like.
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I reloaded the 220 SGK with 80 gr H4831sc or 83 RL 25. 3050 fps from a 26" tube.
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Keep it in 8 mag and take it west to kill a big bull elk with it.
That was my original goal. I had a serious trip planned w/ 2 pards but it fell apart. I enter the Elk permit drawing here every yr. since 1999.......no luck. It's time now to enter for this year. Jerry
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Rabbits down here in NM are tough critters. Keep it in 8 mag and take it west to kill a big bull elk with it.
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Monty Python and the Holy Grail.... CLASSIC! 
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Keep it in 8 mag and take it west to kill a big bull elk with it.
That was my original goal. I had a serious trip planned w/ 2 pards but it fell apart. I enter the Elk permit drawing here every yr. since 1999.......no luck. It's time now to enter for this year. Jerry NM,Wyoming,Montana or Arizona is where you should put in for elk.
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Got a Remington 700 Classic in the back of the safe...killed an elk with it. Don't want to sell it, but don't use it anymore. My first 7 Mag was a Classic. I really liked the stock. Jerry
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I believe I have only encountered one 8RM over the years Yeah, I've only seen 1 or 2 at gun shows. I don't know anyone personally who has or ever had one. A guy my Son works with said, "they never made a 8 mm Mag". I gave my Son a new piece of Brass to show him. He was stunned. Jerry
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The 8 mag was one of those answers looking for a question.
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I tossed around getting one for a moose hunt, but never did. Now I have a 7RM that I'm even wondering why I own.
Not the recoil with either, just too big a framed gun for what I like. Red, last year I got a Tikka T3X in 7 RM. Similarly scoped it only weighs 3 oz more than my T 3 270 W. Jerry edit: sorry I forgot to mention, both are T3 Lite, SS.
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I have a 700 BDL in 8 mag with really nice wood. I've shot exactly one animal with it ( whitetail doe), and took it elk hunting once, but never pulled the trigger. I haven't shot it in years, collects dust mainly. Thought I needed it at the time
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I reloaded the 220 SGK with 80 gr H4831sc or 83 RL 25. 3050 fps from a 26" tube. My 700 is 24" bll. Yes, I loaded 80 gs H 4831 with 220s as well = +2900 fps. I concentrated on the 200s because of the N P. I use 80 gs of IMR 4831 for 3120 @. Jerry
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A .521 BC is purty "impressive". Congratulations?!?
LAUGHING!
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I have a 700 BDL in 8 mag with really nice wood. I've shot exactly one animal with it ( whitetail doe), and took it elk hunting once, but never pulled the trigger. I haven't shot it in years, collects dust mainly. Thought I needed it at the time Well, one thing about it: We have something many/most don't have. It'll kill anything we hunt. Jerry
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There is a like new Remington BDL 8 Rem mag on the rack at Johnson’s Country Store in Lockport, NY if anyone is interested.
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A .521 BC is purty "impressive". Congratulations?!?
LAUGHING!
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Kchuntis,
Them who do not have a concern,do not Post. Congratulations?!?
You Whining CLUELESS Fhuqk.
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The 8 mag was one of those answers looking for a question. ! Remember this was in 1977: ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/yt2W6LZ.jpg) Things were different then. At the time it made quite the splash. Nearly every gun rag featured it. I have a couple of other mags from the era. It's NOT a bad round and with the right bullet (in the right place) nothing can survive it. Jerry
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jsquall,
With the right bullet,in the right place...a 22LR is plenty. Congratulations?!?
Pass the 40gr Solids.
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Simpler times then,Jwall.
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elkchunt,
The less you "know" and the less you "do"...the "better" everything is. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
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Kchuntis,
Them who do not have a concern,do not Post. Congratulations?!?
You Whining CLUELESS Fhuqk.
Hint............... And those who have absolutely nothing to contribute or are deemed worthless by any other person should not post either that means you
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There is a like new Remington BDL 8 Rem mag on the rack at Johnson’s Country Store in Lockport, NY if anyone is interested. Thnx, someone just might be. Mine is accurate & a very good rifle. Jerry
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What scope do you have on yours,J?
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Simpler times then,Jwall. Indeed ! Man it's hard to believe that was 42 yrs. ago. tick, tick, tick. Jerry
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42 years ago WOW! It seems just like yesterday.
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kchuntis,
Did you "forget" about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore yet again...You Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit? Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
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What scope do you have on yours,J? None at the moment. I like 4-12X40s. I took it off the 8 and put it on my T3X 7 Mag last year. xam cdb iew lmo dxo (encrypted so as to not feed our TROLL, he'll have to GET attention elsewhere) pm sent. Jerry
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42 years ago WOW! It seems just like yesterday. yes sirree', 1977
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I still have one in the safe. Killed a couple deer with it and 200 grain accubonds.
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I still have one in the safe. Killed a couple deer with it and 200 grain accubonds. What's your opinion of the a b in the 8 mag ? Jerry
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I still have one in the safe. Killed a couple deer with it and 200 grain accubonds. What's your opinion of the a b in the 8 mag ? Jerry It was pretty accurate. I doubt I'd hesitate to shoot anything in NA with it... But two or three whitetails is hardly a test on that caliber
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I did not know you had a 8 mag,Gitem!
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gitem
I understand that. I killed a couple of WT with the Speer 200 spitzer. Based on those ONLY, they surprised me in that they
did not open up as much as I expected. Actually, I thot they did well on WT at 3100 fps.
ATST, I would NOT hunt bigger game with them. The 200 NP shoot 1"- 1 1/4" at 3120, so for ELK that's more than enuff.
Thanks, I'll prolly check out the a bs and test them on penetration & expansion.
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I still have one in the safe. Killed a couple deer with it and 200 grain accubonds. What's your opinion of the a b in the 8 mag ? Jerry It was pretty accurate. I doubt I'd hesitate to shoot anything in NA with it... But two or three whitetails is hardly a test on that caliber When I had a 8 mag I used the 220 gr Sierra. It sure worked well on bunny rabbits.
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J,have you thought about using the Swift A-Frame 200/220 grain bullets in your 8 mag?
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I understand that. I killed a couple of WT with the Speer 200 spitzer. Based on those ONLY, they surprised me in that they
did not open up as much as I expected. Actually, I thot they did well on WT at 3100 fps.
ATST, I would NOT hunt bigger game with them. The 200 NP shoot 1"- 1 1/4" at 3120, so for ELK that's more than enuff.
Thanks, I'll prolly check out the a bs and test them on penetration & expansion.
Jerry The NPT 200's .426 BC,sure sets the bar. Congratulations?!? LAUGHING! Hint.................
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schit dork,
Facts and Physics are rather unsettling,to The Do Nothing Gang. Congratulations?!?
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In 1978 I was a senior in high school with one required english class and two study halls. So I spent a lot of time in the library reading Field&Stream and Outdoor Life. Different times for sure!
I read and believed all the new cartridge propaganda when the big 8 came out. When Remington announced the Classic in 1998, I splurged and bought the first one I found. Used it on that first elk, then took it to Namibia on my first trip over there. Used a 220 Barnes X on my first ever African animal, a 40" gemsbock bull!
So I have a sentimental soft spot for the 8 mag!
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I've simply always procured that which piqued curiousity and extrapolated same to the larder...if only to the chagrin of Window Lickers everywhere. Congratulations?!?
8mm "Enthusiasts",are easily amongst THE Dumbest Of Fhuqks.
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A 40" gemsbok is a huge bull! Congrats!
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In 1978 I was a senior in high school with one required english class and two study halls. So I spent a lot of time in the library reading Field&Stream and Outdoor Life. Different times for sure!
I read and believed all the new cartridge propaganda when the big 8 came out. When Remington announced the Classic in 1998, I splurged and bought the first one I found. Used it on that first elk, then took it to Namibia on my first trip over there. Used a 220 Barnes X on my first ever African animal, a 40" gemsbock bull!
So I have a sentimental soft spot for the 8 mag! Indeed, in the 70s - 80s we didn't have C phones, 'net', puters, i pads, et.al. Like you, I read EVERYTHING that interested me per guns, cartridges, loading, hunting, shooting etc. I came here to the 'fire' in 2010. Lo & Behold!! I've had direct interactions with some of those same gun writers and hunters. CONGRATS on the successful hunts. 40 " hemsbock" -- back then THEY drilled us to call gemsbock = hemsbock regardless of how pronounced..... DANDY! Sentimental, Indeed !!! Jerry
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Yep, got a 700 Classic. I'm a big 8mm fan. In addition to the Mag, I have an 8x57 (700 Classic), two .325 WSMs (Winchester 1885 & Browning BAR) and a custom Remington 8mm-06. I REALLY want to add a 8x68 to the fold.
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Are you bitching,or bragging? Congratulations?!?
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Yep, got a 700 Classic. I'm a big 8mm fan. In addition to the Mag, I have an 8x57 (700 Classic), two .325 WSMs (Winchester 1885 & Browning BAR) and a custom Remington 8mm-06. I REALLY want to add a 8x68 to the fold. WOW!
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I've got a Rock Creek barreled 8mm mag that puts 200 gr Partitions into half inch groups at 100 yds, and I put three into 0.4 inch at 200 yds when verifying my zero for an elk hunt. I shot a 320" bull on that hunt at 450 yds. I've killed several whitetails with it including my best, a 144" 9 pt. I've also taken 3 black bears with it including a 6 ft platinum blonde bear that got me an article in Bear Hunting magazine. Cutting Edge bullets makes a 225 gr bullet that will work with the standard 1 in 10" twist and has a G1 BC of .640. I'm going to try them out when I have the time and money. https://cuttingedgebullets.com/323-225gr-single-feed-mth
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Few things funnier,a Paper Pushing Kchunt's "input" upon a schit bullet,ala Dinktitude. Congratulations?!?
LAUGHING!
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Shot an 8mm rem Mag in a 700. Baby packs a punch on both ends for sure lol
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Shutting one's dick in a doorway,does not correlate downrange performance. Congratulations?!?
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Shot an 8mm rem Mag in a 700. Baby packs a punch on both ends for sure lol Yes it does!
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J,have you thought about using the Swift A-Frame 200/220 grain bullets in your 8 mag? No Ken. At the time I was doing load development for the elk hunt, I wasn't aware the Swift AFrames were available in 200 or 220. Maybe they were but I didn't know it. That was a long time ago. I know their rep now and it's an interesting possibility. Since I'm not looking to 'shoot 600-1000 yds' like J Burns, I'm looking for a bullet to stay together up close and personal. The S A Fs will do that I know. And you and I know the N P performs as advertised. Jerry
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Rem 700, 8mm Mag.... I found one working at the range one time. customer left it behind. Wouldn't have killed me if they never came back for it, but they eventually did. That's the only one I've ever seen. WOW, I can't imagine leaving any gun behind at a range. That's some kind of distraction or a Dip Stick like some others. Jerry
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Yup,the NP's are never a bad choice.
The Swift's would be a great choice if you ever get an elk tag or come out west for an elk hunt.
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You gals be sure to rattle Pom-Pom's in favor. Congratulations?
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Got a Rem ks mountain rifle in the safe with a S&B 6x. It’s a hammer. At both ends.
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Yep, got a 700 Classic. I'm a big 8mm fan. In addition to the Mag, I have an 8x57 (700 Classic), two .325 WSMs (Winchester 1885 & Browning BAR) and a custom Remington 8mm-06. I REALLY want to add a 8x68 to the fold. AHHHH, there you are. I knew there was 'some' member here that had an 8 Mag. YOU are the one I was trying to remember. I did NOT know you were that DEEP in .323s. Thnx Jerry
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I've got a Rock Creek barreled 8mm mag that puts 200 gr Partitions into half inch groups at 100 yds, and I put three into 0.4 inch at 200 yds when verifying my zero for an elk hunt. I shot a 320" bull on that hunt at 450 yds.
I've killed several whitetails with it including my best, a 144" 9 pt. I've also taken 3 black bears with it including a 6 ft platinum blonde bear that got me an article in Bear Hunting magazine.
Alllright ! Nice. Thnx Jerry
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Shot an 8mm rem Mag in a 700. Baby packs a punch on both ends for sure lol yes, depending on HOW you shoot one. A friend shot mine a few times over the chrono. He went home and kicked back to relax. When he 'started' to get up..... he couldn't. His arthritis was inflamed from shooting it. He was trying to STOP the recoil instead of rocking with it. TRUE story. Jerry
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Few things funnier,a Paper Pushing Kchunt's "input" upon a schit bullet,ala Dinktitude. Congratulations?!?
LAUGHING!
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Again if everyone here is so stupid what are you doing here???
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Got a Rem ks mountain rifle in the safe with a S&B 6x. It’s a hammer. At both ends. AGAIN. Man, I'm not making fun of ya. The 8mm RM ain't no queermoor ! Thnx Jerry
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Okay guys, I gotta go.
Ahhl B Bach !
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Well I have one in a wood stocked Remington 700 BDL. Maybe someday I will get drawn for a Delta or Chitina Bison. Big Stick. You should have one just out of principle that its the perfect rifle and caliber for thumping bison.
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Jerry and other interested parties; I used the 200 grain A-Frame in my .325 WSM and it performed without complaint or concern on critters up to and including eland. Accurate and performed as expected; good expansion and deep penetration. If it fits within the parameters of your planned hunt and style of hunting use it without concern.
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I've had an 8mm mag and still have a .325 WSM. The 220gr Weldcore is the bullet as far as I'm concerned. The 200 and 220 A-Frames are good too, but they develop more pressure at lower velocity than the Weldcores of the same weight, and the Weldcores retain weight pretty well.
I'll have the .325 on this year's elk hunt, but it's probably the backup rifle in favor of a 7mm WSM.
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One of Craig Boddington's favorites. He used it to take his Mountain Nyala with it. I personally don't care for it and the caliber was/is hampered by poor bullet choices.
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Craig has used his 8 mag on all kinds of critters from Asian sheep to elk and etc...
IIRC he shot his best group ever with it and 220 gr Sierras.
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Got a Remington 700 Classic in the back of the safe...killed an elk with it. Don't want to sell it, but don't use it anymore. Isn't that what's happened to a couple rifles when you have 50 to 80 of them sitting in the safes?
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One thing I never liked about the 8mm RM was that the bullets are seated way down the neck to reduce the O. A. L. Some years ago that led to a discuss with a gun nut buddy of mine that went along the lines that you could use shorter brass, seat the bullets at the base of the neck and get very close to the same fps out of it. Heated discussion leads to a bet. He say you can't get within 300 fps and I say you can. Only one way to settle that...build the cartridge and build a rifle for it. JGS made me the reamers, Huntington Die Specialties made the dies, and Custom Gun Guild put together a sweat rifle on a 1909 Mauser action and a Fajen laminated stock. Designed the cartridge to shoot 220 Rem Corelokt, which were standard for the 8 mm RM. The new 8mm/350 mag is short enough to work in a standard length action and the velo was within 150 fps of the Rem model with no pressure signs. It shoots <1" groups at 100 all day with R19 and Fed 215 primers. That become my go to rifle for African plains game for 25 years. I've tried other bullets in it, Nosler 200 Partitions do well with H414, but it absolutely will not shoot any 185s well. Too much freebore on the shorter bullets. Barnes TSX 200s shoot well with R17. I had been shooting this for more than a dozen years when the 8mm WSM appeared, and is darn near identical in length and capacity. Looks like I was a pioneer, though there is hardly any brass under the sun that isn't necked up and down to every caliber possible as soon as its introduced. If you have a .300 mag of any sorts, the 8mms don't offer you any big advantage. If you are not a rifle looney, then I'd say the next step up from .30 for hunting is the .338 WM. In my opinion, there is not enough difference between the .338 and the 8mm in the field to worry about. As for my original bet, the beer tasted good as winning prize, but it was expense in the end.
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Jerry and other interested parties; I used the 200 grain A-Frame in my .325 WSM and it performed without complaint or concern on critters up to and including eland. Accurate and performed as expected; good expansion and deep penetration. If it fits within the parameters of your planned hunt and style of hunting use it without concern.
GRF Thnx GRF for the A Frame performance report. I expected it would perform well but first hand experience is better than 'suspected'. Jerry
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I've had an 8mm mag and still have a .325 WSM. The 220gr Weldcore is the bullet as far as I'm concerned. The 200 and 220 A-Frames are good too, but they develop more pressure at lower velocity than the Weldcores of the same weight, and the Weldcores retain weight pretty well.
I'll have the .325 on this year's elk hunt, but it's probably the backup rifle in favor of a 7mm WSM. L_B, thnx the Weldcores are bullets I have no info on but have heard of them. Good luck on the elk. The 7 RM is ALMOST on top of my list of FAVS. Jerry
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One of Craig Boddington's favorites. He used it to take his Mountain Nyala with it. I personally don't care for it and the caliber was/is hampered by poor bullet choices. Yes I'm familiar with C B and his flavor for the Big 8. I said in the OP "ATST it's fully capable of taking any game in North America. Craig Boddington is a good reference." Today there are many more choices of bullets than in '78-'80. Jerry
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Craig has used his 8 mag on all kinds of critters from Asian sheep to elk and etc...
IIRC he shot his best group ever with it and 220 gr Sierras. Ken, I have not shot my best groups with my 8 but it will shoot BETTER than I can shoot IT. Now, 1--1 1/4" groups ain't bad either. Jerry
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I've seen this rifle and the 8mm "Hatari" works!
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One thing I never liked about the 8mm RM was that the bullets are seated way down the neck to reduce the O. A. L. Some years ago that led to a discuss with a gun nut buddy of mine that went along the lines that you could use shorter brass, seat the bullets at the base of the neck and get very close to the same fps out of it. Heated discussion leads to a bet. He say you can't get within 300 fps and I say you can.
Congrats, you were AHEAD of the curve. I have been too on a couple of other things. OTOH, I have found that compressed loads aren't a handicap. I was shooting compressed loads in 270 W & 06 long before I got my 8 RM. **Note** I know you can have too much compression and the bullet will get pushed back out ---> not good. Thnx Jerry
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I knew an attorney here that bought one for elk hunting. He asked me if I was interested in it. I passed. He said the recoil was unpleasant.
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I bought a 700 Classic 8mm RM in early '99 for an elk hunt I was saving for in 2000. Wound up getting divorced in Aug. '99. What I had saved up went to my ex and my lawyer. It sits unshot for many years now. I've pondered parting with it but haven't so far. I remember when working up a load for deer with the 180g NBT's that it showed pressure signs well below Nosler's book max with R-22. 2.5-3g below max chrony read 3500+fps. I said WTF, that can't be right so, like an idiot I shot it again and the chrony showed 3500+fos again. I knocked those remaining rounds down and that's the last time I shot it iirc. Got the Big D not long after. Still have a butt load of the 180g NBT's and a couple hundred Speer 200g SP's. According to Speer these were designed for the 8mm RM. So those were what I intended to use for the elk hunt. Never have managed to save back up what with child support and then college. However, all that is now behind me so looking at going west again with a buddy this fall.
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I knew an attorney here that bought one for elk hunting. He asked me if I was interested in it. I passed. He said the recoil was unpleasant. It's NO pussycat for sure BUT seriously, I had a 338 WM in a Ruger 77 O G tanger !!! It absolutely HURT me to shoot it>>>>> gone. I still have my 8 Mag. Stock & recoil PAD makes a diff. ATST diff people have diff recoil tolerances. Thnx Jerry
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Sometimes life & people can hand us sorry deals. Glad you recovered.
As I said in an earlier post, I shot a couple of WT with the Speer 200s and they (bullets) were tougher than I expected.
Good Luck on future hunts.
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8 RM.
**Note** I know you can have too much compression and the bullet will get pushed back out ---> not good.
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Does anyone make factory ammo for it anymore? Or does anyone make new brass?
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**Note** I know you can have too much compression and the bullet will get pushed back out ---> not good.
Ooh, that's sounds like a bad day at the range! YEAH and even worse when hunting! I have not experienced it but I know some guys have. There is a limit you do not exceed. Jerry
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Does anyone make factory ammo for it anymore? Or does anyone make new brass? I don't know. Since I'm not hunting mine now, I had stocked up on components so I haven't looked lately. I bet someone here knows. Thnx Jerry
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The 8 mag was one of those answers looking for a question. ! Remember this was in 1977: Things were different then. At the time it made quite the splash. Nearly every gun rag featured it. I have a couple of other mags from the era. It's NOT a bad round and with the right bullet (in the right place) nothing can survive it. Jerry Wow 1977, that sure takes me back. I seem to recall Ken Waters writing some good articles about the 8mm Rem Mag. One of those cartridges that seemed to perform better than the numbers would suggest if I recall correctly.
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Man! I was 12 years old when I read that article. I wanted an 8 bad!
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Ol man has a 8 mag 700 classic, good shooter
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Does anyone make factory ammo for it anymore? Or does anyone make new brass? I don't know. Since I'm not hunting mine now, I had stocked up on components so I haven't looked lately. I bet someone here knows. Thnx Jerry Nosler loads up 8 mag ammo.
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I've seen this rifle and the 8mm "Hatari" works! What did you think of Craig's 8 mag,Jorge?
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thnx for the link and suggestion.
There's one answer to the ? 8 Mag ammo/brass.
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tells us Nosler loads 8 mag ammo. That's 2 sources.
Thnx Ken
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Ol man has a 8 mag 700 classic, good shooter Apparently there are quite a BUNCH of 8 mm R Ms spread around. You never know where one might show up. Thnx Jerry
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Sometimes life & people can hand us sorry deals. Glad you recovered.
As I said in an earlier post, I shot a couple of WT with the Speer 200s and they (bullets) were tougher than I expected.
Good Luck on future hunts.
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Hey mathman........ you still here with us ? How old were you in 1977 ? Do you remember the 8s introduction ? The 8 mag was one of those answers looking for a question. ! Remember this was in 1977:
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There are three for sale on GunBroker now. Two BDL’s and a new in the box classic.
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I would like to have an 8 mag made by Montana Rifle Co.
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Ken, I'm not opposed to M R C at all. My 700 BDL scoped weighs 8.25 # +/- I would NOT want a 'light weight', I don't think I need to xplain ! Jerry
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I would like to have an 8 mag made by Montana Rifle Co. Those guys do carry some interesting calibers-I was on their site a few days ago and saw one of their rifles chambered in 378 Weatherby. 😎
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I would like to have an 8 mag made by Montana Rifle Co. Me, too. That would be a great setup. 8mm Mags, people who hunt big enough game to make use of 8 mags and people who can stalk close in are cool. People who have limited hunting experience outside SE AK, have a big ego despite ultra-short stature, shoot with key boards and pretend to be long-range snipers are not necessarily cool. Though, it must suck to be mistaken for a Nintendo character. It may sound like a comment from a democrap on my part, but I have empathy for such and understand the hit to ego that may occur for being so limited. It could even cause excessive shooting with said keyboard in some cases, though heavy meds might solve that drag on society. Back to rifles: I want a properly tuned CRF 8mm RM. My last Remington 8 RM fed terribly but what a round!
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You said, " My last Remington 8 RM fed terribly but what a round! "
Do you know why ?
Mine feeds normal or very well.
BTW, I really like my T3X Lite 7 RM, I got from you. Killed a few WT last season . Thanks
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I'm not sure why JWall. I didnt take time to figure it out but probably could have been solved. Interestingly enough it shot everything into an inch or better at 100 and slightly better at 200. Older Remington KS. Cant remember what I did with it.
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I have a 90 year old friend that got a big 8 as soon after they came out. I met him in the early 90's and he extolled the virtues of the cartridge. If I remember correctly he shot 170gr Sierras at book max loads. It was all about the flattest trajectory he could get. He practiced a lot with his big 8 at very long ranges. All of this before all the range finding and ballistic apps rage.
He shot numerous deer from 400-600 yards, back when that was some damn good shooting. I do not know if he still has the Remington or not. Need to go visit him one of these days.
I owned one in a classic, and just like the Whelen I once owned in the same rifle, it beat the snot out of me.
I think the 8 had a place during that time period. But there are better choices in this day.
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I remember dad having at least 2 of them over the years, I know he didn't hunt with either of them. The last one he sold at a gun show in the late 90's or really early 2000's. On the little post-it note he used to price it he wrote, "Hippopotamus Gun". LOTS of folks just HAD to pick it up with that little note on it.
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Yep, got a 700 Classic. I'm a big 8mm fan. In addition to the Mag, I have an 8x57 (700 Classic), two .325 WSMs (Winchester 1885 & Browning BAR) and a custom Remington 8mm-06. I REALLY want to add a 8x68 to the fold. No 8mm RM here, but I got a Winchester 1885 in .325 WSM. Shoots 3/4” groups with the first factory ammo I tried. Its very cool gun, but a little heavy so I’ve never hunted with it.
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I would like to have an 8 mag made by Montana Rifle Co. Those guys do carry some interesting calibers-I was on their site a few days ago and saw one of their rifles chambered in 378 Weatherby. 😎 They chamber the .460 also.
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Ken, I'm not opposed to M R C at all. My 700 BDL scoped weighs 8.25 # +/- I would NOT want a 'light weight', I don't think I need to xplain ! Jerry The one I had was made in the very early 80's and the first inch or so of the barrel was pitted and I had it cut off. Then I had the stock replaced with a Boyds laminated stock. It probably weighed 8-1/2 to 8 3/4 lbs. It was still lively from the bench. IF I was to get another,the MRC or my 1917 Enfield (most likely the Enfield) would be the action and the barrel would be 26" long. With a Leupold 3.5x10,loaded with either a NP,Sierra or the Swift A-Frames,there's not much I cannot do with it.
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On the little post-it note he used to price it he wrote, "Hippopotamus Gun". LOTS of folks just HAD to pick it up with that little note on it. L O L, that's a new one on me. brought a smile to my face. Jerry
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No 8mm RM here, but I got a Winchester 1885 in .325 WSM. Shoots 3/4” groups with the first factory ammo I tried. Its very cool gun, but a little heavy so I’ve never hunted with it.
8 RM and 325 WSM, IIRC they're pretty close. I don't hunt heavy rifles either. Jerry
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IF I was to get another,the MRC or my 1917 Enfield (most likely the Enfield) would be the action and the barrel would be 26" long. With a Leupold 3.5x10,loaded with either a NP,Sierra or the Swift A-Frames,there's not much I cannot do with it.
Yep, it would have the power and range for any BIG game. As long as you can kill bunny wabbits with your 460, it'd be redundant. grin Jerry
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Yeah,that .460 on bunnies is a special kind of fun.
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I have always had a soft spot for the big 8. Growing up, it was the only rifle (700 BDL) my dad owned so I handled and played around with it often. Living in south central PA it was and still is certainly more rifle than needed for our whitetails. I am not really even sure the back story on how he happened to buy that rifle originally and why he didn't just get something else. He still has it but it only gets used a few days every few years. He much prefers a model 7 in 7mm-08 now as his go to rifle. I have carried the 8mm mag and have shot deer with it as well. He has mainly used factory 185s from it. I loaded some 200 grain partitions with RL-22 for him to try but we have never made it to the range with them yet. An accurate 200 grain partition should be all he will ever need if someday he can afford his Newfoundland moose dream hunt.
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I am really surprised at how many folks have the Rem 8 Mag. I was always too skeptical of the 185s to shoot deer with them.
I have 'either' 180 or 185s that I got from Midway -- way back. I don't remember why I got them but I did load and chronograph them.
I know I used some for practice.
When it comes to WT or MD I feel the 8 mag is WAY more than needed. I intended and still intend to use it for Elk,,,,,if I every get drawn.
I sure hope y'all can work out a Moose hunt with HIM and the 8.
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A friend of mine bought a new bdl in 8mag maybe 20years ago, for whitetail deer. He called it his "hoves in the air" gun cause it supposedly killed with one shot and zero tracking. He sold it the following year. That's the only 8mm I've ever seen.
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Elk was the main vision I had when I acquired mine. Hopefully get another chance to try it on one. Mine shoots OK with 200 gr partitions, would probably shoot better if I spent more time on load development. It's just not a lot of fun to shoot lol
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8 RM and 325 WSM, IIRC they're pretty close.
Very close - the 8mm RM is a bit bigger, but very few of the loads for it took advantage of that fact. QL says I could get an extra 80 ft/s over my .325 with the RM, and I don't have any reason to doubt it. Powders would be RL-16 and RL-23.
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8 RM and 325 WSM, IIRC they're pretty close.
Very close - the 8mm RM is a bit bigger, but very few of the loads for it took advantage of that fact. QL says I could get an extra 80 ft/s over my .325 with the RM, and I don't have any reason to doubt it. Powders would be RL-16 and RL-23. L_B When we first got this 8 RM the ONLY data I had to go on was what J R S used in his development. I found nearly the identical results he had. I posted this on P 3
My 700 is 24" bll.
Yes, I loaded 80 gs H 4831 with 220s as well = +2900 fps.
I concentrated on the 200s because of the N P. I use 80 gs of IMR 4831 for 3120 @.
Since I haven't been using mine lately, I haven't searched any new load data EXCEPT... Nos # 7 list 78 gr IMR 4831 under their 200 P for velocity (speed) 3000-3100 ; which is their highest vel listed. I've used 80 grs IMR 4831 many Xs over the years and have good case life. With 3100-3120 fps...... I've been satisfied. Since I have some Rl 26, I may give it whirl. Thnx Again Jerry
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A friend of mine bought a new bdl in 8mag maybe 20years ago, for whitetail deer. He called it his "hoves in the air" gun cause it supposedly killed with one shot and zero tracking.
He sold it the following year. That's the only 8mm I've ever seen. That tells you something. Don't forget, diff people have diff recoil tolerance. Thnx Jerry
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Elk was the main vision I had when I acquired mine. Hopefully get another chance to try it on one. Mine shoots OK with 200 gr partitions, would probably shoot better if I spent more time on load development. It's just not a lot of fun to shoot lol I’ll give you a suggestion that helps me w/recoil. If you can get the Rifle high enuff for shooting to where you are in a MORE natural SITTING position.... Your body can roll back WITH the recoil instead of RESISTING or trying to stop the motion. It makes a diff to me. eg. the 375 HH is stouter from a bench THAN standing up as in hunting. That’s an exaggerated illustration to the point. Jerry
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Interesting thread. Respectfully I for one have never understood the 8mm Rem Mag, again it will get the job done but it is not really a very efficient cartridge when comparing the latest .323 projectiles to say 338 Win Mag projectiles and velocity generated. It’s best claim is similar to the 284 Win in that the 8mm RM case has been more popular for wildcatting, i.e., Layne Simpson’s STW chambers, Jon Sundra’s 375 JRS and of course Remington’s factory 416 Rem Mag, which is greatly more successful. In all truth the 338 Win Mag is a much better choice for putting down heavy game at long range with roughly the same recoil when shooting 200 grain 8mm RM load vs. 250 grain 338 WM. Again, not criticizing owners or use just comparing the two. As far as I can tell the 338 Win Mag is quite a bit more useful shooting 165gr through 275 grain loads at long range, not to mention on a 3.4-inch action vs. the needed 3.6-inch for the 8mm RM.
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My chief memory of the 8mm Remington Magnum is from a catalog when they first came out with it? I'm thinking around 1978 or so? I was in grade school at the time, and had a Remington 580 "Boy Scout" .22 Rifle-my one and only firearm and, therefore, a committed, loyal Remington customer for life. I never did buy an 8mm, but this thread brings back some good memories.
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Briefly, Craig Boddington in Nosler #7 manual says the 8 is better than the
338. - at long range.
I don’t know but that’s his opinion.
Also for unknown reason or reasons 8mm really hasn’t been that popular in the USA.
? Maybe ? because of its background ?
I know I like my 8 RM Mag.
Diff strokes......
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If my choice was a 8 mag and a 200 grain bullet vs. a .338 Win mag and a 250 grain bullet for long range I would choose the 8 mag. Now if it was an 8 mag vs. a .340 Wby or a .338 RUM,I would pick the .340 or RUM.
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I think it was Remingtons attempt at challenging the 300 win mag and 300 Bee. Charles Atkins (IIRC), used to write about using it in Africa. But it’s been over 30 years, so my memory sucks.
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viking I don't remember what was said about WHY Rem developed the 8 Mag. I have the S T mag with JRS' article and need to re read it. IN 1978 there were NOT the bullets available then that we have today so....... Obviously from the responses 'here' alone, I'm not the only one who is glad they did. Again, There have been many more positive responses than I expected. And you know we are a small sampling of the shooting - hunting world. BTW I like your opinion better than Ken's ! ! Jerry
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If my choice was a 8 mag and a 200 grain bullet vs. a .338 Win mag and a 250 grain bullet for long range I would choose the 8 mag. Now if it was an 8 mag vs. a .340 Wby or a .338 RUM,I would pick the .340 or RUM. Ken - (smile) I'm NOT trying to start or engage in a bullet--BC debate. You know how bullet weights and BCs can be 'juggled' for the hunter's purpose to prove/disprove their points. The 200 in .323 doesn't compare to the 250 in .338 bore. I understand your perspective and would agree. OTOH there are better bullet/BC comparisons. Seriously, I'm not involved in long range hunting with EITHER cal/cartridge. So I don't want to get involved in any debate. Thnx for your input. Jerry
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet.
I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
The Cutting Edge 225 gr I posted the link to earlier would be a serious long range bullet with it's .640 G1 BC but due to it's length it is would not fit into a magazine.
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Jwall,no harm done and like I said it's my choice. I don't pay any attention to BC,SD or any numbers like that. I pay more attention to bullet construction and take it from there.
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Absolutely.
I said earlier in this thread I'm not shooting 600-1000 yds like J Burns.
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet.
I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry
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Absolutely.
I said earlier in this thread I'm not shooting 600-1000 yds like J Burns.
Jerry My shots on average are 200 yards or less. There have been two deer that I killed over two hundred yards in the last 3-4 years,one was 210 yards and the other was 228 yards. The last elk I killed was around 100-125 yards away and I killed it with a .35 Whelen and a 250 grain Speer at just over 2400 fps.
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet.
I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need?
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I would like to see Nosler come out with a 220 or 225 gr Accubond. I've not used the 220 gr Sierra on game but I've read that it is a relatively soft bullet.
I had plans to shoot the 200 gr Accubond but when the 200 gr Partition was shooting half moa right out of the gate I decided to roll with it, knowing it's long range limitations with the low BC.
I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability. Thnx Jerry Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need? That's a good point.
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What kills is the destruction of the vital organs or the CNS being hit. It's all about shot placement and how the bullet performs i.e. penetrate and expand.
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What kills is the destruction of the vital organs or the CNS being hit. It's all about shot placement and how the bullet performs i.e. penetrate and expand. No argument here. We have such a huge variety of bullets that will do the job(across the spectrum of calibers) that we've become a bit spoiled. Not that that is a bad thing?
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It's not,but a huge selection of bullets is not a reason to not buy a certain caliber. The 8mm is a perfect example IMO.
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I have a 9x57 and my bullet choice is two a 200 gr and a 250 gr,both from Hawk bullets. I use the 250 grain bullet.
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It's not,but a huge selection of bullets is not a reason to not buy a certain caliber. The 8mm is a perfect example IMO.
Again, agreed. I've never had an 8mm Remington, but did have a 325 WSM in a Kimber. I shot 200gr partitions out of it. No worries there...
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I made the same decision when we did NOT have many options in .323 bullet availability.
Phhtt.. how many bullets do you need? With a 8mm 200 grain NP or the 200/220 Swift A-Frame I am able to kill any animal in NA and most of Africa. How much more choice does one need? Xactly !
No argument here. We have such a huge variety of bullets that will do the job(across the spectrum of calibers) that we've become a bit spoiled. Not that that is a bad thing?
Agreed! Variety is a good thing ! I have a 9x57 and my bullet choice is two a 200 gr and a 250 gr,both from Hawk bullets. I use the 250 grain bullet. Xactly again. The same principle applies to the 277 vs 284, specifically 270 W vs. 280 R. W/O doubt there are many more weights in 7mm BUT how many different do we actually USE ? " " " 284 vs 308. Per the 8mm -- when you have a 200 NP, what more do you need-----not counting cheaper to use in practice. I'm telling on myself (as if that's needed). Being a JOC fan since 1975...... I don't use or need 250 gr bullets in MY rifles. I know there are cartridges and BIG game where 240--500 gr bullets give more comfort. I just don't need them. Thnx Fellows Jerry
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Back in the day if a guy would of showed up on opening day of deer season with that thing, I would have been scoffed at.
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Jwall,you make a valid point about a cheaper bullet for practice.
With the big bores a lighter and a heavier bullet would be a good idea. They lighter for fun and practice and the heavier for hunting the big stuff.
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Jwall,you make a valid point about a cheaper bullet for practice.
"Thank you Thank you very much" ! ! ! Yes, in more than 1 way. I AIN'T wasting N Ps practicing, they're too expensive. Hold on, I need to look..................................... sorry for the delay. Not only do I have 200 N P, I have 200 Speer spitzers. "they say" made for Elk hunting. ? ? I have bulk packed Remington 180 8mm PSPCL that I bought from Midway. So..... ALSO, the LIGHTER bullet decreases recoil. Seriously, this thread has stirred up my sediment of 'memory'. I haven't thot of those 180s in quite a while. I said in another post that I had 180 or 185s. I honestly didn't remember. NO I haven't been shooting/practicing with the 8 lately. I have 7 RM and 300 WM so I'm not delinquent in shooting magnums. Jerry
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Back in the day if a guy would of showed up on opening day of deer season with that thing, I would have been scoffed at. Well, unless you showed them a 'bullet' - (cartridge) you could just say it's a 30-06. How many would have known? I know guys who don't know WHAT a 6.5X55 is or a Swede for that matter, let alone a 8mm RM. Jerry
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"Back in the day", there was a 220 grain Hornady also. They discontinued it a few years ago.
Steve Hornady probably needed to buy some more decals to put on his guns!
When I used my Eight, I pretty well stuck with the 220 Barnes, Sierras and the Hornadys for practice. I think I experimented with Swifts also but never hunted with them.
Burned a lot of H4831 playing around with that gun. Now, I would probably start and finish with H1000 and a 200 grain TSX.
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That would be a deer/antelope/sheep bullet IMO.
I wonder if that is a Sierra bullet?
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Bought a classic when it came out. Worst kickin gun I ever owned. Had a brake put on it. Killed an elk. Loudest gun I owned.
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That would be a deer/antelope/sheep bullet IMO.
I wonder if that is a Sierra bullet? Nope Sierra is not a BT
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"Back in the day", there was a 220 grain Hornady also. They discontinued it a few years ago.
When I used my Eight, I pretty well stuck with the 220 Barnes, Sierras and the Hornadys for practice. I think I experimented with Swifts also but never hunted with them.
I had forgotten about that Hornady 8mm bullet. I wish I had tried those. I ‘think’ they would have been a decent bullet. ATST they were not a Nosler, Swift, etc. My preference for a N P is because you can drive it fast and be confident it won’t explode. Thnx Jerry
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About ten years ago I passed on a nice one that I just couldn't invent a need for. Now I look at that like passing on that high maintenance girl that your didn't have a need for. Maybe I'd have liked that rifle anyway.
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That would be a deer/antelope/sheep bullet IMO.
I wonder if that is a Sierra bullet? Nope Sierra is not a BT Gotcha.
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They have plenty of knock down power for antelope.
I watched a friend with a 8mm mag shoot two with one shot. Oooopsie.
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Ya Reckon ? 
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Kicking this back to the curb one more time. Any of you fellows have experience with Remington factory ammo in the 8mm Rem Mag????
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